Worth the upgrade: is this worth it for video editing.

[Pyrofan]

I run a aerial photography business and do alot of 4k editing and rendering out special effects in Premiere Pro and After Effects. I edit currently on my laptop but will be switching over to a new system. I want to know:

1) What can I expect from a new system?

2) Should I upgrade my GPU?

Here are the towers specs:
MOBO: ASrock Pro 4

CPU: i5-3570k

GPU: Powercolor R9 290 PCS+

PSU: CX750M

RAM: 8Gb of Corsair Vengeance

Case: HAF 932 advanced


Laptop:
CPU: 2.6 GHz Core i7 6700HQ

GPU: NVIDIA GTX970M 3GB GDDR5


RAM: 16 GB DDR4-SDRAM


So for the upgrade, I am thinking this:
MOBO: ASUS Prime X370-Pro

CPU: Ryzen 1700

GPU: 1070 or keep current GPU

PSU: CX750M

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200)

Case: HAF 932 advanced or something smaller


So what upgrades can I expect? I am tired of long render times.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

keep the gpu n get the 1800x. also u dont need a x370 mobo. go for a good b350 one.
4k editing n rendering is cpu dependent, not the gpu.
u r looking at a i7 6900k class workstation cpu. expect amazing results 😉

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor ($498.38 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG A40 ULTIMATE 83.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.00 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: ASRock AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($224.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: MyDigitalSSD BPX 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Thermaltake Commander G42 ATX Mid Tower Case ($60.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1088.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-07 02:27 EDT-0400

 

[Pyrofan]

keep the gpu n get the 1800x. also u dont need a x370 mobo. go for a good b350 one.
4k editing n rendering is cpu dependent, not the gpu.
u r looking at a i7 6900k class workstation cpu. expect amazing results 😉

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor ($498.38 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG A40 ULTIMATE 83.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.00 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: ASRock AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($224.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: MyDigitalSSD BPX 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Thermaltake Commander G42 ATX Mid Tower Case ($60.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1088.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-07 02:27 EDT-0400

I missed clicked on my phone and downvoted your answer, my bad!

So why get the 1800X when you can overclock the 1700 to be within 10 percent of the performance of it and still be $170 cheaper. I can get the 1700 with a $160 for cheaper than just the 1800X and some people are overclocking the 1700 to almost 1800X speeds on the stock Wraith Spire cooler.

 

[Swordkd]

If you are trying to save money, why not just throw a i7 3770 or 3770k into your current motherboard? That's the cheapest upgrade option out there that will net a noticeable improvement.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

the info u got is wrong. the 1700X competes with a 6800k and 1800k competes with the 6900k. check up the price diff in those intel models.

 

[Pyrofan]

the info u got is wrong. the 1700X competes with a 6800k and 1800k competes with the 6900k. check up the price diff in those intel models.

The 1700 can overclock to be very close to the 1800X (see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKGJshXgOwU )

 

[Pyrofan]

If you are trying to save money, why not just throw a i7 3770 or 3770k into your current motherboard? That's the cheapest upgrade option out there that will net a noticeable improvement.

I actually thought about that, but it just delays the inevitable. Since the Ryzen is faster, I'd rather just splurge and get it. http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/1317vs3917

 

[Lucky_SLS]

the info u got is wrong. the 1700X competes with a 6800k and 1800k competes with the 6900k. check up the price diff in those intel models.

The 1700 can overclock to be very close to the 1800X (see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKGJshXgOwU )

those bumps in performance comes only in gaming mostly. i was talking about ur rendering works. but the 1700 is still better than the 7700k in rendering. although a bit slower in games. but u wont mind that unless u r worried abt bragging rights. but if u r gonna oc ryzen better go for the 1700x.

 

[the nerd 389]

For video rendering, you should also try to get more RAM, and if you have it in the budget, get an RD400. They are built for rendering workloads.

With regards to the CPU debate, there is a difference between the 1700 and 1800x. You're more likely to get a solid OC on the higher end models. The real world impact is pretty close to negligible, though. Unless you make a living wage from the work you do with this PC, the 1700 is the better deal.

 

[Pyrofan]

For video rendering, you should also try to get more RAM, and if you have it in the budget, get an RD400. They are built for rendering workloads.

With regards to the CPU debate, there is a difference between the 1700 and 1800x. You're more likely to get a solid OC on the higher end models. The real world impact is pretty close to negligible, though. Unless you make a living wage from the work you do with this PC, the 1700 is the better deal.

You say more RAM. Is 32 GB not enough? Everything I have seen as said that anything over 32 is way overkill, with even 32 being slightly overkill. As for the M.2 drive, I have been looking into those and will most likely get one. And finally the CPU. I am in college and my business makes enough to keep me happy but doesn't make the difference between getting food on the table or keeping the lights on. The performance gap between the 1700 OC and the 1800x OC wont warrant the price difference.

So with all that out of the way, what about the GPU? Should I get a 1070? Wait on the AMD 500 series? Keep my 290?

 

[the nerd 389]

For video rendering, you should also try to get more RAM, and if you have it in the budget, get an RD400. They are built for rendering workloads.

With regards to the CPU debate, there is a difference between the 1700 and 1800x. You're more likely to get a solid OC on the higher end models. The real world impact is pretty close to negligible, though. Unless you make a living wage from the work you do with this PC, the 1700 is the better deal.

You say more RAM. Is 32 GB not enough? Everything I have seen as said that anything over 32 is way overkill, with even 32 being slightly overkill. As for the M.2 drive, I have been looking into those and will most likely get one. And finally the CPU. I am in college and my business makes enough to keep me happy but doesn't make the difference between getting food on the table or keeping the lights on. The performance gap between the 1700 OC and the 1800x OC wont warrant the price difference.

So with all that out of the way, what about the GPU? Should I get a 1070? Wait on the AMD 500 series? Keep my 290?

I missed the 32 GB part of the build. That looks decent. I'll only add that you may want 4x8 rather than 2x16. Intel CPUs benefit from the dual bank per channel configuration. I don't know if Ryzen does as well, but it's worth checking out.

Also, many M.2 drives will choke with a video rendering workload. That workload uses extreme sequential reading/writing. TLC drives will get bogged down. The RD400 is one of the few drives that was designed for this kind of punishment.

Regarding the GPU, I would keep the 290 if you don't need specific features on the newer cards. If you end up wanting to upgrade at some point, consumer NVidia cards behave more consistently with professional rendering workloads.

 

[Pyrofan]

For video rendering, you should also try to get more RAM, and if you have it in the budget, get an RD400. They are built for rendering workloads.

With regards to the CPU debate, there is a difference between the 1700 and 1800x. You're more likely to get a solid OC on the higher end models. The real world impact is pretty close to negligible, though. Unless you make a living wage from the work you do with this PC, the 1700 is the better deal.

You say more RAM. Is 32 GB not enough? Everything I have seen as said that anything over 32 is way overkill, with even 32 being slightly overkill. As for the M.2 drive, I have been looking into those and will most likely get one. And finally the CPU. I am in college and my business makes enough to keep me happy but doesn't make the difference between getting food on the table or keeping the lights on. The performance gap between the 1700 OC and the 1800x OC wont warrant the price difference.

So with all that out of the way, what about the GPU? Should I get a 1070? Wait on the AMD 500 series? Keep my 290?

I missed the 32 GB part of the build. That looks decent. I'll only add that you may want 4x8 rather than 2x16. Intel CPUs benefit from the dual bank per channel configuration. I don't know if Ryzen does as well, but it's worth checking out.

Also, many M.2 drives will choke with a video rendering workload. That workload uses extreme sequential reading/writing. TLC drives will get bogged down. The RD400 is one of the few drives that was designed for this kind of punishment.

Regarding the GPU, I would keep the 290 if you don't need specific features on the newer cards. If you end up wanting to upgrade at some point, consumer NVidia cards behave more consistently with professional rendering workloads.

Yea for the RAM I am looking at the G.SKILL Flare X Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 2400 because its on sale and I have heard it works well with AMD CPU's.

What should I do for a motherboard? Are there cheaper options? I though about using the savings on RAM and maybe a cheaper motherboard to get a AIO liquid cooler.

 

[the nerd 389]

For your budget, the motherboard is fine. You could get a cheaper board, but the savings won't be enough for a half decent AIO. That said, the case you picked is expensive, especially if you don't use all of the space.

My recommendation for the build is something like this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jLzY7h

 

[Pyrofan]

For your budget, the motherboard is fine. You could get a cheaper board, but the savings won't be enough for a half decent AIO. That said, the case you picked is expensive, especially if you don't use all of the space.

My recommendation for the build is something like this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jLzY7h

I already own a case and have a Corsair 750M. I started looking at the GIGABYTE GA-AB350-GAMING 3 which has decent reviews. As for the RAM, should I go for the Ripjaw series, or Flare X? I wanna OC it to 2933 if possible.

 

[the nerd 389]

For your budget, the motherboard is fine. You could get a cheaper board, but the savings won't be enough for a half decent AIO. That said, the case you picked is expensive, especially if you don't use all of the space.

My recommendation for the build is something like this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jLzY7h

I already own a case and have a Corsair 750M. I started looking at the GIGABYTE GA-AB350-GAMING 3 which has decent reviews. As for the RAM, should I go for the Ripjaw series, or Flare X? I wanna OC it to 2933 if possible.

Regarding RAM, I'm not sure what the difference is between the Ripjaws and Flare X is. Both are G.Skill, and should perform well. If you want to hit 2933, though, you should get a kit that's rated for at least that. Ryzen has some issues with overclocking the RAM, and every ounce of stability you can get will help.

 

[Pyrofan]

For your budget, the motherboard is fine. You could get a cheaper board, but the savings won't be enough for a half decent AIO. That said, the case you picked is expensive, especially if you don't use all of the space.

My recommendation for the build is something like this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jLzY7h

I already own a case and have a Corsair 750M. I started looking at the GIGABYTE GA-AB350-GAMING 3 which has decent reviews. As for the RAM, should I go for the Ripjaw series, or Flare X? I wanna OC it to 2933 if possible.

Regarding RAM, I'm not sure what the difference is between the Ripjaws and Flare X is. Both are G.Skill, and should perform well. If you want to hit 2933, though, you should get a kit that's rated for at least that. Ryzen has some issues with overclocking the RAM, and every ounce of stability you can get will help.

So buy a 3200 kit then?

 

[Lucky_SLS]

the flare x is made for ryzen. no loss there going for it. pcpp lists only the 2400 model. check retailers for 3000/3200 models if u want.