Would faster memory improve things?

RobJM

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I currently have 2 x 1GB PC2700 memory and was wondering if I would see any improvement upgrading this to faster memory, specifically in gaming.

I have a ASRock 775Dual-VSTA Motherboard with Core Duo 6400 and a Ultimate X1950pro graphics card (256MB), running XP Pro.
I will not be overclocking.

According to here http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listparts.aspx?model=775Dual-VSTA

the max speed I can get is DDR2 PC2-8500 , but wondered if I would actually benefit from that or something inbetween and cheaper/value for money :)

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CNeufeld

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But really, how much of a performance increase would you actually see? Take a look at this article:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/22/corsair_xms2_dominator/page3.html#fear

There was zero frame rate difference going from generic memory to overclocked tighter timing memory when looking at games. The only tests that showed any real difference was for video encoding, and that was limited to 3%, unless you wanted to overclock (7%). Dropping in a faster processor would make a much better investment, although the memory upgrade is probably a cheaper upgrade currently.

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CNeufeld

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BTW, I am curious about how much performance you would gain, and why you say there would be a significant performance increase.
 

ausch30

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That is comparing similar memory with slightly different speeds and timings while the OP is currently using DDR333 so going to DDR2533 will give a performance increase.
 

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Although I have no experience of changing ddr for ddr2, I think that AUsch30 is predicting a performance increase on the basis that DDR2 pc5300 will be twice as fast as PC2700, and will bring about a performance increase, especially as it will now be running in a 1:1 ratio with the CPU fsb.
 

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I agree with those who say no real diff.
You will see a 10-30% increase in just ONE component of the communication in your PC. Overall it will be negligable: i.e. less than 10% overall, probably only about a few percent.
 

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PC5400 runs twice as fast as PC2700.... 667MHz as opposed to 333MHz. Obviously this won't double the performance of your machine though :lol: The difference will just be a few percent, and nothing that would be distinguishable to the user, without using benchmarking software such as Sandra.
 

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Where do you get the idea that PC2-5400 memory runs twice as fast as PC-2700 memory? I guess it depends on your definition. But show me a memory benchmark (or any other benchmark) that shows more than a few percent improvement in performance. Did you even look at the second link I posted? It's got the OP's actual board, specifically testing DDR and DDR2 memory. The memory bandwidth went up by a whopping 3% (page 3 of the article). The Business Winstone went up by 2%. For games, Far Cry did a whole 0.1 to 0.2 FPS better (0.3%). UT2004 did a little better, at just under 4% (3.8 FPS). Now one thing I will give you is that they compared PC2-5400 with PC-3200 memory (instead of PC-2700). But at stock speeds, this review (http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1229&page=2) shows zero difference (basically) between PC-2700 and PC-3200. However, the PC-3200 has more overclocking room, which the OP said he wasn't going to do.

So as far as I'm concerned, the answer to the OP's original question of "Would faster memory improve things?" is "Not really". It would likely be a disappointment if he plunked in 1GB of DDR2 PC2-5300 memory and expected to see his games run any faster. Now if he was thinking about increasing the amount of RAM in his system, I'd definately recommend plopping in 2x1GB of PC2-5300 (or better) memory, as opposed to trying increase the amount of DDR memory in his system, but that's a different question. Personally, I can't imagine running with only 1GB of memory anymore.

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Just from general experience, upgrading memory really doesn't do that much. You will see a lot more difference if more memory is added that's for sure.

TC :)
 

RobJM

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Thanks for all the help and links :)

Think I'll leave that upgrade then , put the money towards something else when the time comes.
Just thought I'd check first as my memory is the last remnants of my old system and thought it may be holding my system back.

Rob.
 

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Its not an idea mate, its fact. Memory speed is rated in terms of its frequency in MHz, and PC5400 is twice as fast as PC2700. As I clearly stated in the post you quoted, this does not translate into a noticeable performance increase. In response to your immaturely stated question, no I did not look at the second link you supplied because I didn't need to, I already knew that there would be no significant difference, as I stated in my post :??: I think you mistook my original post as supporting AUsch30's opinion, when really I only intended to clarify how he had formulated it.