would like some advice on this build

[deathalive]

i bought some ripjaw ddr4-3200 pc4-25600 8192mbx2 for my system but speccy dosnt seem to view it running at 3200 im not sure why. also with the cpu and gpu i have id think i could handle fortnite and twitch at the same time.... running fortnite and nothing else at max graphics it runs at like 18fps...... and even when i drop the shadows and lower graphics i can barely watch twitch on 1 screen and fortnite on another... also league of legends has been dropping frames.. will start game and it runs at like 12 fps... restart pc and it will run at 180fps... not sure why its so back and forth... any advice would be great. heres my speccy report:


Summary
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X 44 °C
Summit Ridge 14nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1064MHz (15-15-15-36)
Motherboard
ASRock X370 Killer SLI/ac (AM4) 28 °C
Graphics
VE247 (1920x1080@59Hz)
U28E510 (3840x2160@60Hz)
4096MB ATI Radeon RX 580 Series (C.P. Technology) 51 °C
Storage
931GB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-21WN4A0 (SATA) 24 °C
931GB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-22MFCA0 (SATA) 25 °C
232GB Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB (SSD) 27 °C
Optical Drives
No optical disk drives detected
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio


Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64-bit
Computer type: Desktop
Installation Date: 12/19/2017 1:52:28 PM
Serial Number: PX4B9-66PW9-939KF-P37VY-KD7X4
Windows Security Center
User Account Control (UAC) Enabled
Notify level 0 - Never Notify
Firewall Enabled
Windows Update
AutoUpdate Not configured
Windows Defender
Windows Defender Disabled

RAM
Memory slots
Total memory slots 4
Used memory slots 2
Free memory slots 2
Memory
Type Unknown
Size 16384 MBytes
Channels # Dual
DRAM Frequency 1064.1 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 15 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 15 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 15 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 36 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 51 clocks
Command Rate (CR) 1T
Physical Memory
Memory Usage 51 %
Total Physical 7.95 GB
Available Physical 3.85 GB
Total Virtual 9.20 GB
Available Virtual 3.61 GB
SPD
Number Of SPD Modules 2
Slot #1
Type Unknown
Size 8192 MBytes
Manufacturer G.Skill
Max Bandwidth DDR4-2132 (1066 MHz)
Part Number F4-3200C16-8GVKB
SPD Ext. XMP
Timing table
JEDEC #1
Frequency 727.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 10.0
RAS# To CAS# 10
RAS# Precharge 10
tRAS 24
tRC 34
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 800.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 11.0
RAS# To CAS# 11
RAS# Precharge 11
tRAS 27
tRC 38
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 872.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 12.0
RAS# To CAS# 12
RAS# Precharge 12
tRAS 29
tRC 41
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #4
Frequency 945.5 MHz
CAS# Latency 13.0
RAS# To CAS# 13
RAS# Precharge 13
tRAS 32
tRC 45
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #5
Frequency 1018.2 MHz
CAS# Latency 14.0
RAS# To CAS# 14
RAS# Precharge 14
tRAS 34
tRC 48
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #6
Frequency 1066.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 15.0
RAS# To CAS# 15
RAS# Precharge 15
tRAS 36
tRC 50
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #7
Frequency 1066.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 16.0
RAS# To CAS# 15
RAS# Precharge 15
tRAS 36
tRC 50
Voltage 1.200 V
XMP-3200
Frequency 1600 MHz
CAS# Latency 16.0
RAS# To CAS# 18
RAS# Precharge 18
tRAS 38
Voltage 1.350 V
Slot #2
Type Unknown
Size 8192 MBytes
Manufacturer G.Skill
Max Bandwidth DDR4-2132 (1066 MHz)
Part Number F4-3200C16-8GVKB
SPD Ext. XMP
Timing table
JEDEC #1
Frequency 727.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 10.0
RAS# To CAS# 10
RAS# Precharge 10
tRAS 24
tRC 34
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 800.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 11.0
RAS# To CAS# 11
RAS# Precharge 11
tRAS 27
tRC 38
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 872.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 12.0
RAS# To CAS# 12
RAS# Precharge 12
tRAS 29
tRC 41
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #4
Frequency 945.5 MHz
CAS# Latency 13.0
RAS# To CAS# 13
RAS# Precharge 13
tRAS 32
tRC 45
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #5
Frequency 1018.2 MHz
CAS# Latency 14.0
RAS# To CAS# 14
RAS# Precharge 14
tRAS 34
tRC 48
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #6
Frequency 1066.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 15.0
RAS# To CAS# 15
RAS# Precharge 15
tRAS 36
tRC 50
Voltage 1.200 V
JEDEC #7
Frequency 1066.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 16.0
RAS# To CAS# 15
RAS# Precharge 15
tRAS 36
tRC 50
Voltage 1.200 V
XMP-3200
Frequency 1600 MHz
CAS# Latency 16.0
RAS# To CAS# 18
RAS# Precharge 18
tRAS 38
Voltage 1.350 V

 

[DRagor]

RAM: did you turned on XMP in BIOS? It does not look so.
FPS: which monitor you game on? 4K is way too much for your RX 580. However on 1080p screen you should be easily getting 60+ on anything, well after you put that RAM to full speed at least.

 

[deathalive]

i was unaware that the 580 wouldnt cut it... the Hierarchy table shows it as like the 5th best card... like 400$ card... do i really have to get a 800$ card to use 4k? and thank you about the bios, didnt know i needed to do that. the 580 is literaly the only card under $650 for radeon lol


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

 

[madmatt30]

The 580 is a great 1080p card & a decent 1440p card.

4k ?? A 1080ti can barely cut it for 4k past medium settings.

 

[deathalive]

ok, so i turned xmp to profile1 and set it to 3400 which made the pc power cycle 4 or 5 times before it would boot. even when it did boot it still showed the ram running at 16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1064MHz (15-15-15-36) changed xmp abck to "auto" and boots fine now... but still seeing 1064mhz

 

[coozie7]

+1 on activating the memory overclock, although it may not be called XMP in your motherboard manual: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3167421/xmp-docp-eocp.html
Also, I'll suggest you flash the BIOS to the latest revision before making any changes, many old/er BIOS revisions have known issues with high speed RAM and won't allow it to run at full speed.

Fortnite is quite a demanding game: https://www.techspot.com/article/1557-fortnite-benchmarks/ and here: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/fortnite-best-performance-benchmarks,review-34288-3.html as you can see, it's pretty demanding and at 4K it's really too much for a RX580 so I'll suggest you either turn the resolution down on the 4K display or use the 1080 monitor, at least for this particular title.
The LoL issue looks to be very different, it's NOT particularly demanding, so something is clearly eating up the system resources, is this happening with any other games? Does it only happen when gaming with Twitch running?
In the meantime, try a little TLC: Download and install Ccleaner ( or similar ) and run it to clear out the various .temp files and internet caches dotted around Windows, a lot of harmless but annoying crud often hides away here and a simple sweep through like this can work wonders.

 

[deathalive]

the league thing is new, and it dosnt happen with anything else. again once i restart its fine running 100fps+ i didnt realize fortnite was that resource heavy, so i get that now ^_^. i have a samsung 28" 4k how do i turn the display down? o btw it runs 4k movies by them selves PERFECTLY just watched the up-scaled avatar in 4k and it was amazing. the idea is to be able to watch a stream while playing a game.... literally got this monitor for that exact reason lol

 

[madmatt30]

Try 2933mhz , it was never ever going to boot at 3400mhz.

 

[DRagor]

i was unaware that the 580 wouldnt cut it... the Hierarchy table shows it as like the 5th best card... like 400$ card... do i really have to get a 800$ card to use 4k? and thank you about the bios, didnt know i needed to do that. the 580 is literaly the only card under $650 for radeon lol


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

Well yes, 5th place would be just right. Except in terms of performance 1st to 5th is huge leap. And for 4K you need 1st card on the list, as others are just not up to the task. Obviously, LoL and Fortnite are not especially graphically intensive games but still rx 580 will not cut it in 4K. As for prices, currently Radeon cards are overpriced very badly due to mining craze - while it affects all cards, it hits Radeon cards more.

 

[coozie7]

Try it again at the rated speed of DDR4 3200, many Ryzen systems have issue running over DDR4 3200, especially if the BIOS isn't fully up-to-date.

 

[deathalive]

tried to update bios. tried instant flash first. checked msinfo32. bios version/date: american megatrends inc. p2.5, 6/6/2017 it says to use the bridge to 3.5 then the newest version. i added the x370 file to a reformated fat32 usb drive but it says there is no file when i go to instant flash. so i tried the "windows" .exe version of the bridge and it tells me to install version 3.0 first... 3.0 dosnt offer an .exe version so i downloaded the instant flash version of 3.0 and it still says there are no files..... not sure where to go from here lol

 

[madmatt30]

3.20 has a windows version & in all honesty the update to agesa 1.0.0.6 is the one that really matters for ram compatibility more than any other.

Ive not updated my pro 4 past that simply because ive had no need to.

What bios are you currently on ??

 

[deathalive]

american megatrends inc. p2.5, 6/6/2017

 

[madmatt30]

My bad , you still have to update to 3.00 first to uodate to 3.20

Think my board came with 3.00 in the box.

 

[deathalive]

Ok. So managed to flash to 2.5 which is what i thought i had. But for whatever reason this let me flash 3.0 then 3.5 lol and finaly the 4.6.... apparently i have to do each one in order... not just the 3.0 bridge it says

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

I think too, from what I saw online, that ddr4 320p is actually overclocking the ram with ryzen. I guess from what I saw it was designed for 2666.

So you may need to set it at that or 2933 as some boards may not be able to run the ram at full speed.

 

[deathalive]

thx guys. i think im just gona get a new board...... the MSI X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM looks good and within my budget. unless there is another yall recommend around same price that works with my other hardware?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06WLNZ1JH/?tag=pcpapi-20&th=1

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

To be honest, when I bought my board, CPU and RAM, I bought 2400 speeds. The guy basically told me there isn't much difference, maybe a few percentage points. I saw I think from Linus from Linus tech tips, that he said pretty much you'd not see much difference at all in speeds over 2400 unless you were running something like a GTX 1080 or 1080ti.

If you are trying to do 4k gaming, you'd need to go for a better graphics card than an RX 580. That said, I think on a 4k screen, if you set the resolution to 1080p, that another guy on YouTube, I think his channel is tech deals, says that 1080p scales perfectly on a 4k screen.