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Hello Everyone,

Recently I've been in need of a new computer, so I decided to build one. I've asked around a bit on the forums and come up with a build as follows:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ Microcenter)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Cooling MX4 4g Thermal Paste ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($354.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($70.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 560W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($122.66 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH238H 23.0" Monitor ($147.58 @ Newegg)
Total: $1626.12

But, here's my question.... Do you think that the motherboard would be overkill for this build? This is a motherboard that i've been recommended, but with this build, would I really need it? I have seen some other similar builds (of similar quality) with motherboards costing $50 -$100 less. Currently, my budget is about $1600 and im trying to cut a bit off to include a mouse and keyboard...
 
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Id upgrade the cooler and TIM to the Phanteks and Shin Etsu TIM .... or if budget tight, the Hyper 212

The Mobo is great and if ya hHit the combos man :) .... save $80 .... put it towards a better monitor ($144hz)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1352787

$10 more s ya 1.35 v modules
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233199

These $5 cheaper and cpome w/ 425 game coupon
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226191

670 GFX card when the 670s out ? And that card has a very weak VRM.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125463

$10 more gets you a significant case / PSU upgrade .... $30 lets you SLI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1327093
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1327096

If ya can swing it, the 144 Hz model rocks
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313
 
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Wow, thanks for the quick response :D

That combo deal looks amazing, almost too good to be true ... and I though I was getting a good deal with the microcenter cpu discounts .. Im pretty new to the building process, so i've got a few questions:

First how would the Hyper 212 compare to the H60. It's cheaper, so that's definitely a plus, and I've heard that the H60 can be hard to install. I'd rather go with the Hyper if the performance isnt much different.

As to the RAM, does 1.35 V make much difference from 1.5V?
Also, as to the case, that looks nice, but I noticed that the PSU is not modularized... would that be a problem?

And then, that 770 looks very nice... maybe I could sneak it in there ;)

 
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I have no love for the H series stuff .... if I was gonna use a "faux water cooler", it would be the Antec Kuhler.

The Phanteks is good for 7-10C above the Hyper 212. The Phanteks edges out the Silver Arrow and DH-14
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe_cpu_cooler_review,14.html

H50 and H70 versus Silver Arrow
http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=674&Itemid=62&limit=1&limitstart=4

the lower the voltage, the lower the voltage load on ya CPU

I dont get the thing people have w/ modular..... I usually look for hybrid modular. Don't see any sense in a modular 24 pin cable....not like ya can ever do a build w/o one so why the extra expense, failure point and extra resistance ? Same w/ 1st SATA cable and PCIE. But that's the thing with the TX, it is a great PSu for a great proce so no extra $$ spent on conenctors..... Ya wanta b etter modular PSU, gran the HX

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1327117

 
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Do you think the Hyper 212 is good enough, though? It definitely seems to be the kindest to my budget...

If you think that I could manage the non-modular on my first build, I could definitely get that?
 
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Good mobo, I'd equate the Hyper 212 EVO to about the H100, when I tested them against each other, same rig, the EVO was a couple degrees cooler, and the 100 is better than the H60, on your GPUs, I tend to lean towards EVGA (funny, I won't touch their mobos ;) ), they have great graphics cards
 
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So, I've updated the build with some fresh parts / using newegg combos... How does this look for a final build?

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($7.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($87.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($409.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($56.50 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS248H-P 24.0" Monitor ($187.58 @ Newegg)
Total: $1498.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-22 13:41 EDT-0400)

This way, it leaves me some extra cash for mouse / keyboard, and speakers :D
 
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On another thread, I saw this monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236262&nm_mc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r&cm_mmc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r-_-Monitors+-+LCD+Flat+Panel-_-ASUS-_-24236262

and it looks to be the same price (from newegg) but with adjustable stand, faster refresh, etc. How does this one look compared to the other?

Also, I am considering windows 8 for the OS... Although I dont like the interface quite as much, from what i've heard, it's faster than windows 7, and through a few tweaks/ upgrades, it can appear pretty much the same... Any opinion on this?
 
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The monitor would, of course, be your choice, looks good though, I like the faster refresh......Win8 is another matter, have you used it at all? I ran the beta from the first released to developers and have never really cared for it, don't consider it any faster, you can pretty much run it like Win7 and the 8.1 release allows you to boot to the desktop - but as a whole it's awkward (to me any way) for desktop use even with a touch screen
 
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I've used windows 8 a little bit in stores,etc. From some sources like this http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406668,00.asp it looks like the boot time is almost 2x as fast. But my real concern is how much more Microsoft (and new, games/software) will support windows 7. Do you think that this would be an issue?

Also, I was looking back at my SSD. There is also a samsung 840 Pro, which boasts a faster write speed, and then there's the 250 gb 840 (non-pro). Someone else told me to consider these in addition, so what do you think about them?
 
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No, Win 7 will be around for quite some time, the 840's a great SSD, 250 for a SSD is prob to much, I've got a pair of 120GB SSDs in RAID 0 and a ton of programs and only use about half of it....keep in mind you keep your data files, documents, etc (anything that gets changes made to it) on a platter drive, writes to the SSD over time can shorted it's life
 
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Ok, I had one last question before I order:

Im looking at power supplies, and im still unsure on which to get. There's the one on my build: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020 and then, there's another one which (on newegg at least), states that it's specifically compatible with 4th gen intel: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020

price-wise, they're just about equal, yet, but im wondering if there's any reason to go one over the other. Compared to other PSU's do you know how they stand? Compared to other PSU's how do these stand? Would there be any better alternatives?
 
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