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Hey I'm playing warzone 2 and I'm getting avg 85 fps on low settings, 1080p vs 1440p is simular fps and it won't go above 100 on either. I feel like it might be my cpu (I5 9400F) my card is RX 5700XT. Would a ryzen 5 5600x or ryzen 7 5800x get me over 100 fps+? Or is it waste of money

My pc:

Processor & cooler:
I5 9400F
Hyper Evo 212 Black Edition
Videocard:
RX 5700XT 8GB
Motherboard:
Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Pro WIFI
Ram:
Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO
16GB (2x8) 3200mhz
SSD:
Crucial P5 Plus 1TB
 
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Aeacus said:
Find out which of the two is maxxed out when you game. If it's CPU, the CPU upgrade does help. But if it's GPU (which i suspect), then CPU upgrade does little, if any, in terms of FPS, since you'd still be capped by what your GPU can provide.
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RX5700XT is simular to a 2070, a 2070/5700xt should get more than 80 fps on 1080p low. From what I have seen in videos at least
 
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DutchFellah said:
I feel like it might be my cpu (I5 9400F) my card is RX 5700XT.
Would a ryzen 5 5600x or ryzen 7 5800x get me over 100 fps+? Or is it waste of money
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If you're cpu limited, then just upgrade cpu to i7. Either i7-8700 or i7-9700.
Will cost you less than complete system overhaul (cpu + motherboard).

Plus - you won't need to worry about windows reinstall, that may be required with motherboard upgrade.
 
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DutchFellah said:
RX5700XT is simular to a 2070
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More like equal to GTX 1070 Ti/ RTX 3060, rather than RTX 2070. And i'm not even going to compare driver compatibility between Radeon and Nvidia. It's well known that Nvidia drivers are far better than Radeon drivers.

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ryzen 5 5600x or ryzen 7 5800x
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As said above, upgrading CPU to i7-9700(K) could be cheaper, than going with new CPU-MoBo (and even RAM) combo. And also buy better CPU cooler, since Hyper 212 isn't enough for Core i7.

Performance wise, i7-9700K is equal to R5 5600X.
 
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SkyNetRising said:
If you're cpu limited, then just upgrade cpu to i7. Either i7-8700 or i7-9700.
Will cost you less than complete system overhaul (cpu + motherboard).

Plus - you won't need to worry about windows reinstall, that may be required with motherboard upgrade.
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Finding one of those will be harder and more expensive, used i7 9700k is going for 225-250.
I also don't think the jump will be very big between same generations.
 
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DutchFellah said:
I'm also not trying to act like I know better but my friend is getting 130 fps on warzone 1080p low and he has an ryzen 5 5600x with an rx 6600, a card that is worse than mine so I was thinking maybe the ryzen 5 could make the difference
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Well, if you like, you can go with new CPU. For the very least, you'll get better performing CPU out of it. And when lucky, you'll also get more FPS.

The better the CPU you get - the bigger difference potential there would be.
 
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I would doubt a 9400F would be bottlenecking a 5700XT. I would suggest an upgrade to a 6650XT would give you more performance than a CPU upgrade. If you wanted to go higher than that then the CPU will start to be more of an issue.
 
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Ar558 said:
I would doubt a 9400F would be bottlenecking a 5700XT. I would suggest an upgrade to a 6650XT would give you more performance than a CPU upgrade. If you wanted to go higher than that then the CPU will start to be more of an issue.
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I just wonder why my friend who has an rx 6600 (from what I have seen should be worse than my card or max at the same fps) gets 120-130 fps and I get 80-90 and he has a ryzen 5 5600x. We both have ssd and same ram speeds 3200 16gb
 
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Since you get the same performance at 1080P and 1440 it suggests to me that you do have a cpu limitation.

As another test, in windows power management, set the max cpu down from 100% to 80%. If you are not cpu limited, you should see no change in performance.

Assuming you want a cpu upgrade, what are the options.

1 ) A I7-9700K would gain you two threads and perhaps 20% better single thread performance. Possibly more with overclocking.
That will cost about $220 used on ebay.

2) Buy a current gen amd or intel processor.
The $200 range will give you a big boost.
The thread count will double, and the single thread performance will go up by 50%. In general, amd gives you more threads, but at a comparable price, single thread performance is a bit less.
A I5-5600x is relatively cheap at about $168 and is exactly comparable in performance with a I5-12400 at $179.
Less expensive 13th gen processors are due to be released soon and will offer a 15% boost in price/performance.
If you can wait to January, that would be a good deal.
In either case, you will need to buy a new motherboard.
B660 may cost $130 . I am not expert on amd chipsets but would expect them to cost the same.

With Intel, you can reuse your DDR4 ram. Intel does not depend much on fast ram. Reusing is uncertain with ryzen. Not only is ryzen dependent on fast ram for performance, but it is quite picky about compatibility.

A cpu upgrade is a start, buy it may just swap your limiting factor from cpu to gpu.
You may want to check the warzone2 forums to see what is required to get to 100fps.
 
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DutchFellah said:
I just wonder why my friend who has an rx 6600 (from what I have seen should be worse than my card or max at the same fps) gets 120-130 fps and I get 80-90 and he has a ryzen 5 5600x. We both have ssd and same ram speeds 3200 16gb
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I would try to do some benchmarking to see if your CPU is pinned at 100% when it's giving you 80-90 fps. That might help answer.
 
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geofelt said:
Since you get the same performance at 1080P and 1440 it suggests to me that you do have a cpu limitation.

As another test, in windows power management, set the max cpu down from 100% to 80%. If you are not cpu limited, you should see no change in performance.

Assuming you want a cpu upgrade, what are the options.

1 ) A I7-9700K would gain you two threads and perhaps 20% better single thread performance. Possibly more with overclocking.
That will cost about $220 used on ebay.

2) Buy a current gen amd or intel processor.
The $200 range will give you a big boost.
The thread count will double, and the single thread performance will go up by 50%. In general, amd gives you more threads, but at a comparable price, single thread performance is a bit less.
A I5-5600x is relatively cheap at about $168 and is exactly comparable in performance with a I5-12400 at $179.
Less expensive 13th gen processors are due to be released soon and will offer a 15% boost in price/performance.
If you can wait to January, that would be a good deal.
In either case, you will need to buy a new motherboard.
B660 may cost $130 . I am not expert on amd chipsets but would expect them to cost the same.

With Intel, you can reuse your DDR4 ram. Intel does not depend much on fast ram. Reusing is uncertain with ryzen. Not only is ryzen dependent on fast ram for performance, but it is quite picky about compatibility.

A cpu upgrade is a start, buy it may just swap your limiting factor from cpu to gpu.
You may want to check the warzone2 forums to see what is required to get to 100fps.
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A 9700K at $220 is bad value, you can almost get a 12600K for that. If you decide that it is bottlenecked and you really need it, I would go 12600K and B660 for around $400-450. More expensive but gives you an upgrade path to 13th Gen in the future.
 
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geofelt said:
Since you get the same performance at 1080P and 1440 it suggests to me that you do have a cpu limitation.

As another test, in windows power management, set the max cpu down from 100% to 80%. If you are not cpu limited, you should see no change in performance.

Assuming you want a cpu upgrade, what are the options.

1 ) A I7-9700K would gain you two threads and perhaps 20% better single thread performance. Possibly more with overclocking.
That will cost about $220 used on ebay.

2) Buy a current gen amd or intel processor.
The $200 range will give you a big boost.
The thread count will double, and the single thread performance will go up by 50%. In general, amd gives you more threads, but at a comparable price, single thread performance is a bit less.
A I5-5600x is relatively cheap at about $168 and is exactly comparable in performance with a I5-12400 at $179.
Less expensive 13th gen processors are due to be released soon and will offer a 15% boost in price/performance.
If you can wait to January, that would be a good deal.
In either case, you will need to buy a new motherboard.
B660 may cost $130 . I am not expert on amd chipsets but would expect them to cost the same.

With Intel, you can reuse your DDR4 ram. Intel does not depend much on fast ram. Reusing is uncertain with ryzen. Not only is ryzen dependent on fast ram for performance, but it is quite picky about compatibility.

A cpu upgrade is a start, buy it may just swap your limiting factor from cpu to gpu.
You may want to check the warzone2 forums to see what is required to get to 100fps.
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Alright thanks i'll do some tests later
 
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geofelt said:
Since you get the same performance at 1080P and 1440 it suggests to me that you do have a cpu limitation.

As another test, in windows power management, set the max cpu down from 100% to 80%. If you are not cpu limited, you should see no change in performance.

Assuming you want a cpu upgrade, what are the options.

1 ) A I7-9700K would gain you two threads and perhaps 20% better single thread performance. Possibly more with overclocking.
That will cost about $220 used on ebay.

2) Buy a current gen amd or intel processor.
The $200 range will give you a big boost.
The thread count will double, and the single thread performance will go up by 50%. In general, amd gives you more threads, but at a comparable price, single thread performance is a bit less.
A I5-5600x is relatively cheap at about $168 and is exactly comparable in performance with a I5-12400 at $179.
Less expensive 13th gen processors are due to be released soon and will offer a 15% boost in price/performance.
If you can wait to January, that would be a good deal.
In either case, you will need to buy a new motherboard.
B660 may cost $130 . I am not expert on amd chipsets but would expect them to cost the same.

With Intel, you can reuse your DDR4 ram. Intel does not depend much on fast ram. Reusing is uncertain with ryzen. Not only is ryzen dependent on fast ram for performance, but it is quite picky about compatibility.

A cpu upgrade is a start, buy it may just swap your limiting factor from cpu to gpu.
You may want to check the warzone2 forums to see what is required to get to 100fps.
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https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/783725733 1080p test top left cpu usage
 
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