Would this beat a PS4

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Easily. No question. Especially if you could figure a way to include 16GB of RAM instead of 8, using 2 x8GB modules, an SSD for the operating system and a quality power supply. The last two are things that could be done over time though, but you'd want to do the memory at the time you first do the build. Adding memory later is a crapshoot at best.
Easily. No question. Especially if you could figure a way to include 16GB of RAM instead of 8, using 2 x8GB modules, an SSD for the operating system and a quality power supply. The last two are things that could be done over time though, but you'd want to do the memory at the time you first do the build. Adding memory later is a crapshoot at best.
 
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Would not suggest getting a 2200G if you're getting a discrete GPU. First because it's an unnecessary expense, but second because a 2200G limits the PCIe lanes to the GPU at x8 speed while a regular CPU (2400, for instance) allows full x16 bandwidth.

If the system with APU is a 'now' purchase and the GPU a future xmas then can you gimp along with a current GPU until then? just to ensure you've a balanced build in the end.

That said: i've no idea if i will 'beat' a ps4. sorry.
 
That's terrible advice really. There are VERY good reasons to buy a CPU that has integrated graphics even if you'll be using a discreet card, not the least of which is troubleshooting if something is suspected to be wrong with the graphics card at some point. If you don't have integrated graphics, you're out of luck if you have to try and test without the GPU card installed unless you have another one to use. You're also out of luck if you have to send it back for RMA. At least with the iGPU you can USE your system while you wait for the hardware to be replaced.

Plus, that is a second gen Ryzen CPU with optimizations not found on the first gen models, and is less expensive than any other Ryzen CPU that has as good or better performance, so buying a worse performing CPU with a lower base clock makes no sense just to avoid having an iGPU on the package.
 


Have to disagree... paying the extra cost for an unused iGPU just to unecessarily compromise performance for potential troubleshooting tool is bad rationale especially if you've got the extra GPU(my suggestion)... which means you've got the troubleshooting tool on hand. And the alternate choice is a 2400, also a second gen with all the optimizations and then some.

Hardly terrible advice. If it were terrible advice then what's the point in even selling Ryzen CPU's? That would be the terrible choice.


EDIT... well change this. I should have said 2600 (i keep getting mixed up on all these model numbers) as alternate choice which means OP will have to pay a little more for the CPU. But, since his GPU goal is a 1060 I still maintain PLANNING on pairing it with a 2200g and a crippled PCIe bus is a bad idea if he can avoid it.
 
Exactly. WILL HAVE TO PAY A LITTLE MORE. Which is what I said. It won't "cripple" anything. The iGPU can be disabled in the bios when you're using a discreet card so I'm not sure where you get that idea.

So long as you are not simulaneously running one monitor off the iGPU and another, or several, off the discreet card, there is no disadvantage to having a CPU with integrated graphics. EVERY SINGLE Intel core-I CPU since Haswell has had integrated graphics and it has never been a problem. I fail to see why you think it would be in this case.