WTF is happening in Syria lol?

[GrannySmith1]

I rarely ever follow politics or any news like this. These recent events however have caught my eye. The use of chemical weapons in Syria and Obama's speech to the nation.The massive debate that's just started and what will happen next.

I hear a lot of people who don't want a war in Syria. I completely understand this since we're just recovering from wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. But the video that I saw of the chemical weapons being used was pretty horrific.

There seems to be like no solution to this conflict. What do you guys think? Nobody wants a war but if those chemical weapons are actually a threat, is the world just gonna sit there and do nothing while citizens get gassed? Obama said something about a targeted military strike to deter Assad from using chemical weapons but he also said that he would not put US boots on the ground in Syria after the strike. I'm just curious, now that he's made that public and say Assad hears about it, what the heck do we do afterwards if Assad just keeps using chemical weapons lol?

Again, what are your thoughts on this issue? Seems to me that there's no solution to it. I don't know anything about politics and such but why doesn't the rest of the world do crap but only the US is even thinking about doing something? Just because Russia and China oppose nobody can do crap but us?

 

[wanamingo]

Before the rhetoric bomb drops and we start arguing about what level anti-christ pro Muslim brotherhood time dragon Obama is we should establish the America is not the world police.

If another country decides to mustard gas their civilian population it is not our job to spank some asses.

 

[GrannySmith1]

Well you gotta think what if it was you that was in Syria? What if it was your family that was getting gassed with nowhere to go and nothing to do?

Same goes for families of those who are in the military. A lot of us pushing for a war aren't in the military and you gotta think what if you were the ones who were going to Syria to fight?

 

[wanamingo]

If the American government were really interested in protecting civilians from their oppressive governments we would be at war with most of Africa right now.

The concern over chemical weapons is a legitimate one and if there is enough info to prove the Syrian military is using it then everything should be presented to the UN. Or, if not the UN then give the intel to foreign governments and have Europe clean up their own back yard (with American help of course).

 

[riser]

First things first. Who used chemical weapons? Up until this, no one knew Syria really had them. A few months back, rebels were caught with sarin gas.

Obama has sounded like an idiot, especially with the peanut gallery Putin.

Yes, many of us watched the video. What it if was self inflicted by the rebels to cause the US to attack? What if it was Iran's Revolutionary Guards doing it? Assad is innocent in that case. Obama is foolish to want to act without knowing what happened. Now that he has overplayed his hand, everyone will be prepared for a potential strike and retaliation.

According to John Kerry, only 20% of the 100,000 rebels are extremists. According to Obama's speech, the extremists are Al Qaeda affiliated but they're not the ones we're aiding, it's the non-extremist ones. We do a great job figuring out who is who in the other two countries.. based on the insider attacks.

Here is another statistic I read today. 73% of casualities in Iraq/Afghanistan.... have come under Obama. 27% were under Bush. Almost 8 years under Bush.. and 4.5 under Obama. Think about the leadership on that one in time of war.

We do not need to get involved with Syria. I firmly believe countries more local to the situation should be involved. In fact, I would think all Middle Eastern countries should be far more involved than the US or Europe.

 

[werepossum]

True, but there's something to be said for self determination. This way, when we have to bomb them, at least it will be due to the actions of elected officials rather than the most ruthless thug who rose to the top by killing off his competition.

Also, at least with Syria the existing dictator is probably the second or third biggest source of terrorism, so things aren't likely to get a LOT worse. And now it appears that Obama & Kerry have fumbled themselves into a win-win situation where we can avoid striking Syria and yet still stand a decent chance of removing Syria's WMD - which is very good if Assad wins and very, very good if the rebels win.

What is happening?

The USA is helping to overthrow the secular dictators in North Africa and the Middle East who for the most part have kept the Muslim extremists in check. Extremists are now sweeping through these countries, subverting and killing anyone who resists them. The Muslim Brotherhood in and Al-queda are now heavily influential in Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, and now Syria.

What is happening is a new power bloc is being formed in the region with the aid of Obama's policies and the US military. You can call it a Caliphate instead of a new power bloc if you want to. They do.