X4 955 BE temps are starting to get high and HOT

[stockg86]

I built my pc with a 955 BE amd and got aftermarket cooler the hyper 212+ which got the temps for the cores to be ranging from 30-39C. But just the past few weeks the temps are now fluctuating from 35-49C which slows down the pc a little at times and also has automatically shuts down and restarts about 5times the past month. Why is that?
I had reapplied the paste still the same, case is 922 haf, fans are clean, psu is 550v dont know how to read CPUID voltages to determine if theres a problem. On bios its set at 1.35V.
its creating problems and 35-49C are only when browsing web and videos.
So what else could be the problem everything else seems to be running cool just the core cpu

 

[mosox]

49C is no motive for slowing or shutting down but you can set the voltage to 1.25 and the Bios shutdown protection to 55.

 

[N.Broekhuijsen]

not hot. pretty good in fact. past 62 is considered dangerous.

pc shutting down could be with bad ram. run a memory test to see.

http://www.memtest86.com/

 

[shep66]

Are you getting a BSoD with that? Don't forget to disable the "Automatic Re-start on Shutdown" option in "Startup & Recovery Options" if you want to get a look at any diagnostic info before it goes splat.

 

[saaiello]

I would check your PSU a faulty PSU would cause everything you explained

 

[hundredislandsboy]

I built my pc with a 955 BE amd and got aftermarket cooler the hyper 212+ which got the temps for the cores to be ranging from 30-39C. But just the past few weeks the temps are now fluctuating from 35-49C which slows down the pc a little at times and also has automatically shuts down and restarts about 5times the past month. Why is that?
I had reapplied the paste still the same, case is 922 haf, fans are clean, psu is 550v dont know how to read CPUID voltages to determine if theres a problem. On bios its set at 1.35V.
its creating problems and 35-49C are only when browsing web and videos.
So what else could be the problem everything else seems to be running cool just the core cpu

What kind of CPU loads are you giving it or are you saing the idle temps suddenly increased? I've had my 955BE MBOX OC'd to 3.6 Ghz for months (BIOS auto voltage 1.37) now with the same hyper 212+ cooler and idle temps are 30 Cthe first 15 minutes and 33-34C after hours of basic load, surfing, etc...

Do you have CnQ enabled in BIOS?

 

[stockg86]

CnQ is enabled and it fluctuates the first 20min goin to 40C then after an hour or so of surfing,etc.. It stays in temps of 42-49C.
What are the most effective ways to test RAM, PSU, and reapplication of thermal paste? Also how do u undervolt i cant seem to do that? Is it bad to undervolt in the short or long run?

 

[stockg86]

So what does CnQ do really? and am i suppose to have it on or off which is better and whats its pros/cons

 

[hundredislandsboy]

So what does CnQ do really? and am i suppose to have it on or off which is better and whats its pros/cons

http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/cool-n-quiet/Pages/cool-n-quiet.aspx

 

[stockg86]

ok well now i dont have a real issue on high temps but i do still get a few random shutdowns and i just recently got my first BOSD. Could it be my power supply not having enough juice or something? I have a antec 550W continuous. components are 955 BE, 5770 sapphire 1GB, asus MB, hyper212+, samsung HD, asus dvd drive, etc.


here's a pic on cpuid i dont know how to calculate the voltage necessary so please help

 

[Dr Wu]

Install CPU-Z to measure voltages- it's a separate program to hardware monitor
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

 

[Look]

What RAM do you have? VIN1 is usually your RAM voltage, and it could be that your RAM is over/undervolted with the current settings. Also, use a program such as SpeedFan to double-check your voltages, your 3.3V rail is coming up as .56V in HWMonitor, which is hopefully just a misread by the program.

 

[stockg86]

My ram is G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM. also the 3.3V is still .56 on speedfan
how do you max out load for the cpu to its max 3.2ghz so i can see the voltage on cpuz ive only seen it go to 2.1ghz 1.355v. it idles on .982V

 

[Raidur]

Prime95 is a good CPU stress test. It will run your CPU at 100% to test stability and heat output. These are the temps that matter most for deciding if a CPU is safe.

Your light-load temps could have been raising due to dust/background programs/spyware/viruses as well.

Memtest86 is where I always start for random crashes.

 

[stockg86]

well i ran prime95 and heres the new data when its on full load out. is the voltage of power supply sufficient or not?

 

[gkorjax]

47 Degrees for your cores while running prime95 is not extremely high. It is decent, considering that I think your cpus max temp given from amd is ~62 degrees C.

What confuses me about your post is your previous screen shot, before you asked about/used prime95. If I am reading your post correctly that screenshot is under normal load, and shows 47 degrees for your cores...BUT also shows your 4 cores all running at 100 percent.
What was going on with your computer in that previous message, when you asked how to stress all 4 cores? Yet all 4 cores ARE in fact running at 100%.

 

[warmon6]

Um, i notice something everyone, Look at the +12v rail in speed fan. it's only giving 4v.

Psu is going bad.

 

[Look]

^Yes, but 3.3V is also giving .56V. It could be a faulty PSU, although it could be a misread. Do you have a spare PSU with sufficient wattage that you can through in there to test?

 

[stockg86]

so what should the correct voltage be for those readings +3.3v and +12v or anything else? and i dont have any spare psu only old ones that are 300w. so what can i do to check if faulty psu or misreads?

 

[Look]

If you have onboard video, you can take out your GPU and use onboard, the 300W PSU will be enough if it has all of the correct connectors. Boot into BIOS first and check out the voltages in your PC Health option, the +3.3V, +5V, and +12V should all be close to 3.3V, 5V, and 12V respectively. A little variance is acceptable, my Corsair VX550 has voltages of 3.31V, 5.03V, and 12.10V on those three rails.

If the voltages are still messed up in BIOS (e.g. 4.8V on the +12V rail), then I would swap out the PSU and check to see if the spare one gives any better readings.

 

[stockg86]

my motherboard ( ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard ) doesnt have onboard video. I havent had any real problems like this for first 2months since i built the pc. is there any other way to test the psu if its faulty other than buying a new one and i dont wanna use my old spare 4yrs old 300W dont trust it.

I was also wondering if to make things simpler since it seems to be my psu should i just buy this psu tester to see if its my psu to determine whether i need a new as well.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16899705003&cm_re=psu_tester-_-99-705-003-_-Product

 

[Look]

You can use that tester, it will definitely tell you if the power supply is defective or not. If you have access to a multimeter, you can use that to measure the voltage that is being put out as well.

Before buying anything, I would definitely run Memtest86 for 8+ hours to see if you can dismiss it being a problem with your RAM.

 

[FALC0N]

4 volts on the 12v rail? Ive never seen a functioning system with that low a reading. I wonder if its really correct.

Another possibility to consider is software. What is the history of this operating system? Fresh install? Migrated from another rig?

You can test this theory somewhat with a boot disk or a fresh install on another hard drive if you have one. But I would continue to look very seriously at those voltages as well.

 

[stockg86]

well currently im running windows 7 ultimate 64bit but i did however have 32bit before that and it has kept the program files of the 32bit locked and on hard drive as it continues to install new programs and softwares to that program files(32 bit) rather than the 64bit program files. Could that be creating an issue of somekind because ive tried before formatting the harddrive before installing 64bit but it continued to keep the 32bit folders.

Also know any good reliable site to dl memtest86 im using 4gb ram? and is running these voltages that bad for all my components

 

[Look]

http://www.memtest86.com/ You can create a bootable floppy, or a bootable CD using one of their ISO files. (you will need a burning program to create the CD).

When doing a fresh install of ultimate, make sure when you get to the screen where it has you allocate disk space that you delete EVERY partition, so that you full HDD is "Unallocated Space". Then create your desired partitions. This will format everything on your computer. Win7 has a Program Files (x86) folder, and a Program Files folder (the plain one is the 64-bit) even on a clean install. But nothing from the old OS will be copied over if you delete everything when installing Windows 7.