[SOLVED] x570 Aorus Elite - Memory question

[Nemesia]

Hi everyone.

https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_x570-aorus-elite_matisse_191231_v2.pdf

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/w3FKHx,JgLwrH/

These kit are not in the QVL list for the Aorus Elite but they are on the G.Skill memory compatibility for the Aorus Elite.

Are they gonna work with the XMP profile right away? This is going paired with a 3900X.

I decided to take the Aorus Elite instead of the Tuf Gaming plus motherboard for the Intel NIC but now the RAM is not in the QVL list of that board so I don't know if I should stick with one of the 2 kit above.

 

[Lutfij]

A QVL is to show the end user that the ram kits were used during the testing of the baord prior to launch, meaning that they are guaranteed to work out of the box. This doesn't mean that other brands and kits won't work. If motherboard and ram makers had a QVL, then the board wouldn't have seen the light of release due to being in testing all the time.

If the slots accept the rams you want to drop in, then you're good to go.

Also, choose a dual channel DDR4-3600MHz ram kit, to get the best out of your Ryzen 3000 platform.

 

[Nemesia]

A QVL is to show the end user that the ram kits were used during the testing of the baord prior to launch, meaning that they are guaranteed to work out of the box. This doesn't mean that other brands and kits won't work. If motherboard and ram makers had a QVL, then the board wouldn't have seen the light of release due to being in testing all the time.

If the slots accept the rams you want to drop in, then you're good to go.

Also, choose a dual channel DDR4-3600MHz ram kit, to get the best out of your Ryzen 3000 platform.

I was planning to buy one of these for the tuf gaming but for the aorus elite they are not in that list BUT if you go the the gskill website it says that the kit I linked are in the compatibility list. So which one am I supposed to believe here? gskill or gigabyte?

Would you still recommend me the G.skill I linked for the Aorus Elite x570? Are they gonna run at 3600 out of the box with the xmp profile?

If they don't which one should I buy? With RGB, Cas16 and 3600Mhz.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Trident Z Neo memory kits are specifically made for use with Ryzen 3000 platforms. Yes, they will work.

You believe G.Skill. They do extensive testing with ALL of their memory kits on ALL known boards to validate compatibility. Gigabyte on the other hand only tests a very small handful of memory kits and only to establish that the board will work with a range of memory modules, not with any specific memory kit. Plus, unless the memory manufacturer's compatibility charts and utilities, unless the QVL list for a given motherboard specifically states that the memory has been validated AT the XMP profile speed and timings, they usually have not been and the fact that they are on the QVL list only means that that kit was validated to work at the default, baseline configuration without having been tested with XMP enabled. If it has been tested with XMP enabled, it will specifically list that fact.

Always trust the memory manufacturer first and foremost though.

Didn't you already have a problem with some 2 x16GB memory kit on this system or was that some other configuration, or am I mistaking you for another member?

Are you looking for a 2 x8GB or 2 x16GB kit, because you have both linked in your original post.

 

[Nemesia]

Trident Z Neo memory kits are specifically made for use with Ryzen 3000 platforms. Yes, they will work.

You believe G.Skill. They do extensive testing with ALL of their memory kits on ALL known boards to validate compatibility. Gigabyte on the other hand only tests a very small handful of memory kits and only to establish that the board will work with a range of memory modules, not with any specific memory kit. Plus, unless the memory manufacturer's compatibility charts and utilities, unless the QVL list for a given motherboard specifically states that the memory has been validated AT the XMP profile speed and timings, they usually have not been and the fact that they are on the QVL list only means that that kit was validated to work at the default, baseline configuration without having been tested with XMP enabled. If it has been tested with XMP enabled, it will specifically list that fact.

Always trust the memory manufacturer first and foremost though.

Didn't you already have a problem with some 2 x16GB memory kit on this system or was that some other configuration, or am I mistaking you for another member?

Are you looking for a 2 x8GB or 2 x16GB kit, because you have both linked in your original post.

It probably wasn't me. I'm looking for both actually. A 2x8GB kit and 2x16GB because depending on the price here in Canada I might just take one or the other.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Ok, no problem. So many threads, it's hard to remember who had what after a day or two sometimes. LOL.

So anyhow, if you use the G.Skill memory configurator, select your exact motherboard, filter the criteria on the left and any memory kit that remains is completely validated by G.Skill on that motherboard. Make sure to choose the correct CPU generation since you are on X570. The configurator shows different compatibility depending on which gen of CPU is being used.

Any of these should be compatible for 32GB kit.

RAM Configurator-G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

G.SKILL

www.gskill.com

,


And any of these for 16GB kit.

RAM Configurator-G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

G.SKILL

www.gskill.com

,

 

[Nemesia]

Ok, no problem. So many threads, it's hard to remember who had what after a day or two sometimes. LOL.

So anyhow, if you use the G.Skill memory configurator, select your exact motherboard, filter the criteria on the left and any memory kit that remains is completely validated by G.Skill on that motherboard. Make sure to choose the correct CPU generation since you are on X570. The configurator shows different compatibility depending on which gen of CPU is being used.

Any of these should be compatible for 32GB kit.

RAM Configurator-G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

G.SKILL

www.gskill.com

,


And any of these for 16GB kit.

RAM Configurator-G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

G.SKILL

www.gskill.com

,

Thanks! The RAM price are crazy right now. Might just go for the 16GB Kit. Later!

 

[Darkbreeze]

Actually, they are only crazy if you have to have specific types of kits, and RGB, or require low latency sticks which are going to have more expensive IC's on them. If you are willing to go with a set of Ripjaws or use slightly higher latency sticks like a Trident Z CL18 kit, the price will drop considerably.

Honestly though, unless you are running some high end professional applications or virtual machines, there is almost no reason aside from maybe one or two titles that would at this time use anything close to 16GB of memory. And even then, on those few titles, those are still numbers that exceed what is recommended. Only under specific circumstances would they use enough memory to make having more than 16GB helpful at all.

For 99% of games out there, 16GB is still way more than enough.

 

[Nemesia]

Actually, they are only crazy if you have to have specific types of kits, and RGB, or require low latency sticks which are going to have more expensive IC's on them. If you are willing to go with a set of Ripjaws or use slightly higher latency sticks like a Trident Z CL18 kit, the price will drop considerably.

Honestly though, unless you are running some high end professional applications or virtual machines, there is almost no reason aside from maybe one or two titles that would at this time use anything close to 16GB of memory. And even then, on those few titles, those are still numbers that exceed what is recommended. Only under specific circumstances would they use enough memory to make having more than 16GB helpful at all.

For 99% of games out there, 16GB is still way more than enough.

I wanted to create a RAM drive for fun or maybe a VM but It's not necessary. it would have been just for fun. So I might buy 32GB of RAM depending on the price when I buy it tonight or just decide to buy 16GB instead if I want to save some money. I might just go for 32GB tho just because I have the money so why not. I agree with you tho that I really don't need 32GB for what I do. It was just for some fun

 

[Darkbreeze]

Nothing "wrong" with having 32GB. I run some VMs occasionally and quite often I run some professional applications that can result in very complex files so it can be helpful.

To be honest, while having lower latency sticks is nice, it's probably not as important as having MORE memory IF you do stuff that can use that additional memory. Otherwise, if you don't then the low latency is a nice feature that will likely give you a little snappier "feel". The difference between CL16 and CL18 probably isn't enough that you would really ever be able to tell the difference though unless you were running some kind of dramatically RAM intensive computations or programs.

If you can do without the RGB feature, which half the time on half these kits doesn't work right anyhow, you could go with these very good Ripjaws sticks that are 32GB, 3600mhz, CL16, and save a few bucks anyhow. These sticks at 3600mhz CL16 are just as good as any similar specc'd Trident Z sticks.

PCPartPicker Part List

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $159.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-05 22:52 EST-0500

 

[Nemesia]

Nothing "wrong" with having 32GB. I run some VMs occasionally and quite often I run some professional applications that can result in very complex files so it can be helpful.

To be honest, while having lower latency sticks is nice, it's probably not as important as having MORE memory IF you do stuff that can use that additional memory. Otherwise, if you don't then the low latency is a nice feature that will likely give you a little snappier "feel". The difference between CL16 and CL18 probably isn't enough that you would really ever be able to tell the difference though unless you were running some kind of dramatically RAM intensive computations or programs.

If you can do without the RGB feature, which half the time on half these kits doesn't work right anyhow, you could go with these very good Ripjaws sticks that are 32GB, 3600mhz, CL16, and save a few bucks anyhow. These sticks at 3600mhz CL16 are just as good as any similar specc'd Trident Z sticks.

PCPartPicker Part List

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $159.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-05 22:52 EST-0500

Thanks for the suggestion. I bought all the parts tonight. Can't wait to build that 3900x.

 

[Darkbreeze]

That's nice. I've been eyeballing that, but I'm going to wait and probably pull the trigger on something when Zen3 arrives later this year. My 6700k mostly still does what I need it to, but there are some situations where it's age is beginning to be a problem and I'd really like to see if there are any significant IPC improvements in Zen3 before committing to anything. I'm quite sure you will be extremely happy with that though. Even the 3600x performs pretty darn great.