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Given that in the American market the bulk of HDTV capable sets are CRT
based, any as such generally capable of 480p and 1080i, will the Xbox 2
handle conversion of 720p to 1080i?
 
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Really? It seems that the flat screens and lcd projection tv's are
dominating the stores with few CRT based tv's available.

RnR Lesnar


"Dr GroundAxe" <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Given that in the American market the bulk of HDTV capable sets are CRT
> based, any as such generally capable of 480p and 1080i, will the Xbox 2
> handle conversion of 720p to 1080i?
 
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"RnR Lesnar" <rnrnospamcartman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Really? It seems that the flat screens and lcd projection tv's are
> dominating the stores with few CRT based tv's available.

flat screens and dlp/lcd/lcos rptvs are dominating floor space _now_ because
the technology has matured enough to bring the price down to about double a
good crt.

in regards to 360, I'm near positive it will internally scale to whatever
standard resolution you want.
 
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RnR Lesnar wrote:
> Really? It seems that the flat screens and lcd projection tv's are
> dominating the stores with few CRT based tv's available.
>
> RnR Lesnar
>

Think in terms of installed base.
 
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:33:15 GMT, Dr GroundAxe
<groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>Given that in the American market the bulk of HDTV capable sets are CRT
>based, any as such generally capable of 480p and 1080i, will the Xbox 2
>handle conversion of 720p to 1080i?

No official confirmation yet, but I recently read an interview with an
xobox official and when asked that exact question, he said that they
wouldn't leave any of their market behind.

So you can probbaly bet that it will.
 
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Imperium wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:33:15 GMT, Dr GroundAxe
> <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>Given that in the American market the bulk of HDTV capable sets are CRT
>>based, any as such generally capable of 480p and 1080i, will the Xbox 2
>>handle conversion of 720p to 1080i?
>
>
> No official confirmation yet, but I recently read an interview with an
> xobox official and when asked that exact question, he said that they
> wouldn't leave any of their market behind.
>
> So you can probbaly bet that it will.
>



I sure hope so given that 720p is not very widely supported outside if
plasma/LCD HDTV sets.
 
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Yeh I'm in the same boat...
1080i but no 720p ; (

"Dr GroundAxe" <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Imperium wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:33:15 GMT, Dr GroundAxe
>> <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Given that in the American market the bulk of HDTV capable sets are CRT
>>>based, any as such generally capable of 480p and 1080i, will the Xbox 2
>>>handle conversion of 720p to 1080i?
>>
>>
>> No official confirmation yet, but I recently read an interview with an
>> xobox official and when asked that exact question, he said that they
>> wouldn't leave any of their market behind.
>>
>> So you can probbaly bet that it will.
>>
>
>
>
> I sure hope so given that 720p is not very widely supported outside if
> plasma/LCD HDTV sets.
 
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"Dr GroundAxe" <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Given that in the American market the bulk of HDTV capable sets are CRT
> based, any as such generally capable of 480p and 1080i, will the Xbox 2
> handle conversion of 720p to 1080i?

I don't get the question? Are you saying TVs only support 480p and 1080i
and don't support 720p?
 
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I am. I don't know the numbers, but it would seem that with stores pushing
non CRT, I would bet that most HDTV's sold are not CRT.

RnR Lesnar


"Dr GroundAxe" <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> RnR Lesnar wrote:
>> Really? It seems that the flat screens and lcd projection tv's are
>> dominating the stores with few CRT based tv's available.
>>
>> RnR Lesnar
>>
>
> Think in terms of installed base.
 
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"Khee Mao" <big_bad_buddha_daddy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "RnR Lesnar" <rnrnospamcartman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d4bf8i$e08$1@news.datasync.com...
>> Really? It seems that the flat screens and lcd projection tv's are
>> dominating the stores with few CRT based tv's available.
>
> flat screens and dlp/lcd/lcos rptvs are dominating floor space _now_
> because the technology has matured enough to bring the price down to about
> double a good crt.
>
> in regards to 360, I'm near positive it will internally scale to whatever
> standard resolution you want.

I looked at the CRT versions before deciding on a RP LCD. The CRT's are
limited in size and they're so damn bulky.

RnR Lesnar
 
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RnR Lesnar wrote:
> Really? It seems that the flat screens and lcd projection tv's are
> dominating the stores with few CRT based tv's available.
>
> RnR Lesnar
>
>

I would agree with that. Especially during the onset of HDTV, I saw
nothing but RPTVs.
 
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:02:32 GMT, "A Man, Just Like Other Men"
<Nada2Spam@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"Dr GroundAxe" <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:%O8ae.17578$G8.268@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> Given that in the American market the bulk of HDTV capable sets are CRT
>> based, any as such generally capable of 480p and 1080i, will the Xbox 2
>> handle conversion of 720p to 1080i?
>
>I don't get the question? Are you saying TVs only support 480p and 1080i
>and don't support 720p?
>

I have an older 36" Sony Wega CRT and it doesn't support 720p. No
upscaling to 1080i or down sampling to 480p, it just flat out doesn't
work.

From my understanding, many older HDTV's are like that. Not sure if
that was because of a technical limitation, or maybe the TV
manufacturers never thought 720p would become a common resolution.
 
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Imperium wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:02:32 GMT, "A Man, Just Like Other Men"
> <Nada2Spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"Dr GroundAxe" <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:%O8ae.17578$G8.268@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>
>>>Given that in the American market the bulk of HDTV capable sets are CRT
>>>based, any as such generally capable of 480p and 1080i, will the Xbox 2
>>>handle conversion of 720p to 1080i?
>>
>>I don't get the question? Are you saying TVs only support 480p and 1080i
>>and don't support 720p?
>>
>
>
> I have an older 36" Sony Wega CRT and it doesn't support 720p. No
> upscaling to 1080i or down sampling to 480p, it just flat out doesn't
> work.
>
> From my understanding, many older HDTV's are like that. Not sure if
> that was because of a technical limitation, or maybe the TV
> manufacturers never thought 720p would become a common resolution.
>


If the Xbox2 has a video scaling solution built-in then it won't be a
problem.
 
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If there is no scaling, there will be options for those that do not support
720p. Like the current Xbox, there will probably be a dashboard where you
can select what your set supports. The game will just pick the best your
set can do that the game supports.

HDTV games lists and discussions
http://www.hdtvarcade.com


"Dr GroundAxe" <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Given that in the American market the bulk of HDTV capable sets are CRT
> based, any as such generally capable of 480p and 1080i, will the Xbox 2
> handle conversion of 720p to 1080i?
 
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Sorry, but I can believe that. Regardless of the quality of CRTs, the
"mainstream" consumer will trade that in an instant for convienence or
ergonomics. LCDs will dominate as they become increasingly cheaper, or
RPTVs for cheaper price and bigger size. The only thing that will
replace their future dominance will be future thin technologies (i.e.
OLED). Or even CRT but only if it becomes smaller, which if I remember
correctly, there is a new technology in the works, offsetting CRT
right?


Keep in mind I'm not saying better, I'm saying easier. That's what most
people care about.
 
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RnR Lesnar wrote:
> I am. I don't know the numbers, but it would seem that with stores pushing
> non CRT, I would bet that most HDTV's sold are not CRT.
>
> RnR Lesnar
>
>
> "Dr GroundAxe" <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:n3cae.17734$G8.7452@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
>>RnR Lesnar wrote:
>>
>>>Really? It seems that the flat screens and lcd projection tv's are
>>>dominating the stores with few CRT based tv's available.
>>>
>>>RnR Lesnar
>>>
>>
>>Think in terms of installed base.
>
>
>


Plasma and LCD based televisions only recently became affordable to the
masses. Trust me, most of the HDTV's in the USA will be CRT based models.
 
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Gee, what store do you know that will accept my old CRT RPTV (480p/1080i)
"in trade" on a new whatever tech 720p model? Any?

I'm going to take a bath on my current HDTV and shell out further $$$ just
to support 720p Ebox games? Riiight.

The installed base of HDTV's is predominantly CRT and not 720p native.

Over time that might change. Over time, everything changes. But for
now.............

JL
________________________________


theOne wrote:
> Sorry, but I can believe that. Regardless of the quality of CRTs, the
> "mainstream" consumer will trade that in an instant for convienence or
> ergonomics. LCDs will dominate as they become increasingly cheaper, or
> RPTVs for cheaper price and bigger size. The only thing that will
> replace their future dominance will be future thin technologies (i.e.
> OLED). Or even CRT but only if it becomes smaller, which if I remember
> correctly, there is a new technology in the works, offsetting CRT
> right?
>
>
> Keep in mind I'm not saying better, I'm saying easier. That's what
> most people care about.
 
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JL wrote:
> Gee, what store do you know that will accept my old CRT RPTV (480p/1080i)
> "in trade" on a new whatever tech 720p model? Any?
>
> I'm going to take a bath on my current HDTV and shell out further $$$ just
> to support 720p Ebox games? Riiight.
>
> The installed base of HDTV's is predominantly CRT and not 720p native.
>
> Over time that might change. Over time, everything changes. But for
> now.............
>
> JL


I don't know about that. Maybe I've been out of the loop for awhile but
when I first started looking for HDTV, they were mostly all RPTVs and
now it seems to be mostly all LCDs and Plasmas taking the shelf space.
>
 
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JL wrote:
> Gee, what store do you know that will accept my old CRT RPTV (480p/1080i)
> "in trade" on a new whatever tech 720p model? Any?
>
> I'm going to take a bath on my current HDTV and shell out further $$$ just
> to support 720p Ebox games? Riiight.
>
> The installed base of HDTV's is predominantly CRT and not 720p native.
>
> Over time that might change. Over time, everything changes. But for
> now.............
>
> JL


BTW, what country are you in? I'm only referring to the U.S. and what
I've seen in the midwest. I have no idea what type of tv (crt, lcd,
rptv, plasma) is mainstream in other parts.
 
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I've got a CRT too. If X-Box 360 doesn't support 1080i scaling from
720p, and PS3 does, I buy PS3
 
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