Xbox One X vs Gaming PC build

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Hello guys, how are you all doing ?

So I have some things I would like to ask about.

Currently, I have a PC whith following components:

Motherboard:
S1150 mATX H81M-DGS
(One ram slot is dead)

CPU:
S-1150 Core i7 - 4770

SSD:
120GB 2.5'' SATA3

HDD:
2TB SATA3 3,5'' 64M

GPU:
VGA GF GTX 750TI 2GB

RAM:
8GB 1600 DDR3 ( x2 )
(Only one working since ram slot on the motherboard is dead)

PSU:
LC Power LC600H-12

Monitor:
Samsung's 1920x1080 27 inch monitor.

So the thing is I would like to get something new, I was thinking about buying Xbox One X which I can get for around 400 Euros (352 GBP) (460 USD) and Samsungs 4K 55inch television.
I never owned a console except PSP.

But on the other hand, is this rig worth upgrading? Max I can spend is around 800€

Thanks for all answers.
 

Aeacus

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There are pros and cons with both, Xbox and desktop PC.

If you want to get same level of performance out of desktop PC than you can get out of Xbox (meaning 4K gaming), desktop PC will cost a lot more money. Though, that's the downside of desktop PCs. Oh, desktop PCs are also bigger than consoles and you'll need more space where to put it. I don't call PC's bigger size a downside per say but for some people, it can be viewed as downside as well.

Downsides of Xbox is that all games it can play are proprietary and work only on that console. Another downside is 0 hardware upgradability with Xbox or any console in that matter. While with desktop PC, you can upgrade everything there's in it. And also customize it to suit your own taste, e.g white color theme with few touches of blue or full RGB. But with Xbox, you're stuck with it's looks. Of course, Xbox is just a gaming console and there's not much else you can do with it. While with desktop PC, there are a LOT of other things you can do besides gaming.

If you want to go with PC upgrade path then €800 can get you these:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8500 3GHz 6-Core Processor (€299.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€110.33 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston - FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (€73.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB AMP! Edition Video Card (€224.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€85.78 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €794.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-21 20:30 CEST+0200

Few words
Core i5 is about 25% better than your current CPU,
comparison: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4770-vs-Intel-Core-i5-8500/1978vsm447884

Also added Z-series MoBo with 4 RAM slots, so:
* you can upgrade to K-series CPU and OC it
* you can easily upgrade your RAM to 16GB

For time being, put in 8GB of RAM running at 2666 Mhz. Also, GPU is GTX 1060 3GB which can do high/ultra settings @ 1080p with 60+ FPS. And lastly, put in good quality PSU from Seasonic since your current PSU is crap quality. Oh, you need to re-use your SSD/HDD and PC case.

As said above, with that upgrade, you're looking at high/ultra settings @ 1080p with 60+ FPS. For 4K gaming (like Xbox), you'll need 3 upgrades:
CPU from i5-8500 to i5-8600K
RAM from 8GB to 16GB (with 2nd 2x 4GB set)
GPU from GTX 1060 to GTX 1080 Ti
 

Aeacus

Champion
Ambassador
There are pros and cons with both, Xbox and desktop PC.

If you want to get same level of performance out of desktop PC than you can get out of Xbox (meaning 4K gaming), desktop PC will cost a lot more money. Though, that's the downside of desktop PCs. Oh, desktop PCs are also bigger than consoles and you'll need more space where to put it. I don't call PC's bigger size a downside per say but for some people, it can be viewed as downside as well.

Downsides of Xbox is that all games it can play are proprietary and work only on that console. Another downside is 0 hardware upgradability with Xbox or any console in that matter. While with desktop PC, you can upgrade everything there's in it. And also customize it to suit your own taste, e.g white color theme with few touches of blue or full RGB. But with Xbox, you're stuck with it's looks. Of course, Xbox is just a gaming console and there's not much else you can do with it. While with desktop PC, there are a LOT of other things you can do besides gaming.

If you want to go with PC upgrade path then €800 can get you these:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8500 3GHz 6-Core Processor (€299.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€110.33 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston - FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (€73.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB AMP! Edition Video Card (€224.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€85.78 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €794.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-21 20:30 CEST+0200

Few words
Core i5 is about 25% better than your current CPU,
comparison: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4770-vs-Intel-Core-i5-8500/1978vsm447884

Also added Z-series MoBo with 4 RAM slots, so:
* you can upgrade to K-series CPU and OC it
* you can easily upgrade your RAM to 16GB

For time being, put in 8GB of RAM running at 2666 Mhz. Also, GPU is GTX 1060 3GB which can do high/ultra settings @ 1080p with 60+ FPS. And lastly, put in good quality PSU from Seasonic since your current PSU is crap quality. Oh, you need to re-use your SSD/HDD and PC case.

As said above, with that upgrade, you're looking at high/ultra settings @ 1080p with 60+ FPS. For 4K gaming (like Xbox), you'll need 3 upgrades:
CPU from i5-8500 to i5-8600K
RAM from 8GB to 16GB (with 2nd 2x 4GB set)
GPU from GTX 1060 to GTX 1080 Ti
 

t99

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I'm sorry, but don't buy i5 8500 for 300 euros it's a horrible purchase. Extremely overpriced and not worth it at all. That cpu should cost like 200$, maybe 220$. The ryzen 2600 for 160$ is a far better option. Performance for gaming is virtually identical and the 2600 multi task significantly better like streaming + gaming the 2600 clearly wins.

I would not pay 230$ for a 3gb 1060 when you can get an 8gb rx580 which beats that 1060 in basically everything and cost the same

This option cost almost 150 less and will perform better.. You could spend the 150$ on moving to a 1070ti for high frame rate gaming or higher resolution, but a 580 can handle 1440p 60fps in most games.

With 150$ you can go from 8gb ram to 16gb and add a 480gb ssd. If you do that you are set for years. You can also just save the money and now half of your next gpu is already paid for. Use this for 2 or 3 years and buy a 300$ gpu for only 150 since you saved 150 noe.

If games start utilizing more cores then the 2600 will hold up better long term as well being a 6 core 12 thread cpu vs only a 6 core.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/7nhhBb

Not trying to blast the first option, it's decent, but you are overpaying for nothing. Check these benchmarks out the 1060 3gb gets smokes by 580 8gb as much as 30% more fps. The 1060 only wins in one game and that's assassins creed at 1440p and it's by a fraction of 1 fps, not even close here.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eurogamer.net/amp/digitalfoundry-2017-radeon-rx-580-570-review_8

I think this is worth trying..... Buy a rx580 or 1060 6gb or even a 1070ti, point is just buy a new GPU and see how it works with your current cpu. Your cpu with a new GPU should handle basically every AAA game at 60fps high settings.

I had a i5 4460 with my rx480 for almost 2 years before I bought a ryzen 2600. I could run basically everything at 60fps max settings. Once in a while I would find a game where I had to cap at like 53fps or maybe turn some settings to medium, but for the most part it handled 60fpd 1080p just fine.

I do notice a huge improvement with the 2600 though. I can do so much more at once now and can 100% max every game and then some. Usually pushing the resolution scale up to 130%. If you are building a new pc it won't hurt anything by starting with only a new GPU and see how it works

Who knows maybe you get just the gpu and it works so great that you don't buy anything else and upgrade the rest like a year or so from now. Maybe you get it and your cpu struggles some on the newer games and worst case scenario you buy the other parts since you were going to buy them anyways does splitting it up actually matter?

Even before I replaced the cpu the i5 4460 and rx 480 was far superior to an Xbox one. Good luck.
 

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