Xbox to Announce New Hardware at Gamescom

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I wonder if they are working on a new game plan. Instead keep launching incremental updates to sell more units. Then eventually old ones will be retired by game developers who need certain specs. I think the gaming market has matured enough for this. People are already used to it with smartphones, tablets and computers.

Perhaps even get to the point where Sony and MS are releasing a new model every year. With games in general supporting 4 year old models or newer. Newer models just getting better detail and/or framerates depending on resolution.

Perhaps the XBox One will be the last new generation. From here forward it'll just be incremental updates.

I'm not saying it will happen. It could and would make sense for selling more units.
 

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The XBox One released back in 2013. I would be surprised if a new platform doesn't launch in 2019. Nintendo's Switch release, the growth of PC gaming, and Microsoft's lagging behind Sony provides multiple incentives for them to try and push a new console out before Sony does. 2020 seems like too far away to expect a new XBox.
 

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I hardly think they are going to release a next gen console right now since they just got the Xbox One X out the door and if they do are they crazy it is way to soon for a next gen console. Not only that but if they already have a new next gen ready for release then it will for sure suck and won't be worth buying. When you hear the strong rumors of what Sony is working on for their next gen I would think MS would like to wait for AMD to get their 7nm Ryzen's out the door and then be ready to have those for MS a long with maybe Navi or even something better.

I am pretty sure MS is just going to release or show off a shrunk down Xbox One X. I also hate the idea of them releasing a console based off of different performance levels. I 'm sorry but we see how crappy this all works out in the PC world but hey whatever I am not a console user so my vote does not matter on this.
 

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Probably a new/cheaper S model and maybe a new/cheaper X model. Doubt they'll do more than tease the next generation model.

Side note MS needs to fix the naming convention they are using with Xbox. They really screwed it up with the whole Xbox One thing. Now with the shift to have a high/low console out at the same time its way to easy to confuse people over which is which. Probably just use the car model convention to keep things straight. So Xbox "insert Year" followed by either S for low end or X for high end.
 

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I was thinking something like Why_Wolf described. This is probably a shrunk down XBox of some sort.

Reading these other comments has gotten me thinking though: what if they just made an upgrade to the XBox One X that used an x86 CPU and an modern AMD video card? When you consider that the hardware architecture hasn't changed much since 2013, all of the software that they've released for the XBox One should be compatible and any new software they release would be supported by old hardware.

Gears of War 7 for XBox One would be completely compatible with the next gen XBox.

Gears of War 9 for the next gen XBox would be completely compatible with the XBox One. Since this is a hypothetical next gen game, it would know what kind of hardware it was running on and modify the visual settings to accommodate it
 

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Well at least even if it is a new console, the way MS is going we will still be able to play all the same games since the Xbox is using the OneCore now so it sounds like as long as they keep that we won't have to keep our old consoles to play our old games (Even though they are getting more and more games backwords compatible as it is right now)
 

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You mean like with a laptop. Dell has a Latitude line, the 55X0, and every year the X goes up and they put a new CPU in it with some other minor hardware changes. They basically keep up with whatever the CPU vendors do.

Could work but I doubt it would be done. The hardware is specialized and not produced for anyone else but them, even though there is hardware that's similar CAPU wise this one is still specialized to Microsofts needs.



Well the XBox One X just launched and its still the most powerful console out there. I Don't see them releasing a new one since the hardware is specialized.
 

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The X doesn't define a new console generation though. The X is still an XBox One. It's a redesign with upgrades. Historically, console generations changed every 5 to 6 years. 2018 is 5 years and 2019 will be 6 years. Microsoft has a choice of pushing X-exclusive games or releasing a new console generation. I think they'll release a new generation in 2019. I don't think the XBox One console generation will be allowed to last as long as the 360 generation did.
 

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Considering their current goal is to retain game compatibility with newer consoles a new generation doesn't make sense. That and there isn't much newer hardware out from AMD to surpass what Microsoft already has. Maybe by 2019 there will be but even then the costs of deploying a new generation would be more than just releasing an XBox One whatever they name it.

That I could see. Maybe a Ryzen based CPU core with a Vega based GPU core and possibly HBM as an APU. But a completely new geenration would seem futile.

Look at Windows 10. There is no news of Windows 11 on the horizon, just the twice yearly Redstone update for 10 that adds new features and capabilities.
 
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Microsoft and Sony both hate the idea of constant hardware updates with higher specifications... first they make their money off the SOFTWARE and secondly it's a huge hassle for game developers to support multiple generations even if they are very similar.

I think we'll see an approx 2020 PS5/XB2 release for new hardware with an emphasis on 60FPS and by then the visuals on average are going to be truly incredible so there will be much less desire by EVERYBODY to buy new hardware... I mean what if a game looks almost photo-realistic and runs at 60FPS, so what you come out with a 20% graphics hardware update that would likely look almost identical anyway?

No. If see new hardware in 2020 I fully expect to see that hardware last until at least 2025 (not counting die shrinks). The PS4 PRO and XB1X thing is unlikely to be repeated since again visuals will be awesome and 60FPS should be the target... in fact, with backcompat in the x86 designs games will mostly support the PS5, PS4 Pro, PS4, XB2, XBox One/One S, and XB1X so they really don't want to add yet another console to that mix if they don't absolutely need to.
 
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