Xeon E5 2670 or Xeon E3 1230v5

[superdut]

So i have 2 options :
1, E5 2670 for 150 Dollars
2, E3 1230 v5 for 290 Dollars
I'm selling my old system to get a new one (fx8320 r9 280), so what should i buy, i got 850$ for my new build
I use my pc mainly for gaming/ video edting and streaming

 

[CTurbo]

The 1230v5 is a very nice cpu. That would be my choice. The Haswell 1231v3 would be my second choice.

 

[superdut]

Thanks for the answer, do you think 4 more cores (8 thread) of the E5 would help me much, or just go with the newer E3, i need my new system to be future proof , because i will buy a new pc every 3 yrs

 

[bicycle_repair_man]

I second the 1230 V5.

 

[g00ey]

How about an E5-1620v2? It's a quad-core 3.7/3.9 GHz CPU.

If you want 6 cores instead of 4 cores, there is:
* E5-1650 v2 that features 6 cores ticking at 3.5/3.7 GHz. (LGA2011 socket)
* E5-1650 v3 6-cores 3.5/3.8 GHz (LGA2011-3 socket)
* E5-1650V4 6 " 3.6/4.0 GHz (LGA2011-3 socket)

The LGA2011 that comes in two versions offers more lanes and room for more PCIe slots than the 1150 socket that the above mentioned E3 CPU is designed for. Keep in mind that LGA2011-3 is a successor to LGA2011 and an LGA2011 CPU won't fit an LGA2011-3 socket or vice versa.

 

[bicycle_repair_man]

If you're using Adobe Premiere for video editing then extra CPU threads will be beneficial. Then again, a fast clock is also important and the 1230 is on newer architecture, so I'd still recommend it. Eight threads with a decent SSD and 16GB RAM will suit your needs very nicely.

 

[iamacow]

The E5 2670(not v2 (10 core) or v3) is an 8core 2.6ghz with 3ghz turbo on 2 cores for the X79/2011 socket (not 2011v3). I bought one last year on eBay and found it to be nearly identical performance to the i7 3930k 3.9ghz in Adobe Premiere. Those chips are only $70 on eBay these days and a great deal if you don't have a 3930k already and a unused X79 motherboard.

Neither is future proof since the chip is like 4 years old already. Give it 1 more year and the new sockets will be out with a reason to upgrade from a 5 year old chip (at that point). Right now the 3930k is still faster than the i7 6700k (Skylake) in video editing. Mainly because the 6700k is a 4core.

I hope that helps

 

[superdut]

How about an E5-1620v2? It's a quad-core 3.7/3.9 GHz CPU.

If you want 6 cores instead of 4 cores, there is:
* E5-1650 v2 that features 6 cores ticking at 3.5/3.7 GHz. (LGA2011 socket)
* E5-1650 v3 6-cores 3.5/3.8 GHz (LGA2011-3 socket)
* E5-1650V4 6 " 3.6/4.0 GHz (LGA2011-3 socket)

The LGA2011 that comes in two versions offers more lanes and room for more PCIe slots than the 1150 socket that the above mentioned E3 CPU is designed for. Keep in mind that LGA2011-3 is a successor to LGA2011 and an LGA2011 CPU won't fit an LGA2011-3 socket or vice versa.

i only have 2 options mentioned above, because the store near my place have those 2 options that will suit me, the store only have the newest Xeon (all the older Xeon is out of stock or just straight up not available in the store), so all the CPU's you mentioned in your answer is just impossible to get ( and i don't want to buy a used cpu), i live in SEA so yeah, it's suck when you need to buy pc parts

 

[superdut]

If you're using Adobe Premiere for video editing then extra CPU threads will be beneficial. Then again, a fast clock is also important and the 1230 is on newer architecture, so I'd still recommend it. Eight threads with a decent SSD and 16GB RAM will suit your needs very nicely.

yeah, because gaming take up to like 40-50% of my time so i need the higher clock speed for that (and of course it's help when i stream/recording from the same pc as well), i'm using sony vegas for editing and davinci resolve for color grading. So i might go with ur suggestion

 

[bicycle_repair_man]

The 1230 is a great choice. People automatically dismiss Xeon CPUs because they assume they're built just for servers.

 

[superdut]

The E5 2670(not v2 (10 core) or v3) is an 8core 2.6ghz with 3ghz turbo on 2 cores for the X79/2011 socket (not 2011v3). I bought one last year on eBay and found it to be nearly identical performance to the i7 3930k 3.9ghz in Adobe Premiere. Those chips are only $70 on eBay these days and a great deal if you don't have a 3930k already and a unused X79 motherboard.

Neither is future proof since the chip is like 4 years old already. Give it 1 more year and the new sockets will be out with a reason to upgrade from a 5 year old chip (at that point). Right now the 3930k is still faster than the i7 6700k (Skylake) in video editing. Mainly because the 6700k is a 4core.

I hope that helps

yeah, i think the E5 isnt that great when it comes to age, but that price/ performance is pretty good. Does Intel releases CPU for a newer socket like every a year and a half or something? So i don't get it when people say "This CPU is newer, faster, and the upgrade ability is much more than the older CPU"

 

[superdut]

The 1230 is a great choice. People automatically dismiss Xeon CPUs because they assume they're built just for servers.

The render time is not essential to me at all (My video normally only take max 1hr to render with my fx 8320), and i don't want to get the i5 6600k (same price as the 1230 in my country btw) for just gaming, the extra 4 threads is very helpful when i'm recording, so 1230 it is, and thanks for the answer btw

 

[bicycle_repair_man]

No probs.

 

[iamacow]

The E5 2670(not v2 (10 core) or v3) is an 8core 2.6ghz with 3ghz turbo on 2 cores for the X79/2011 socket (not 2011v3). I bought one last year on eBay and found it to be nearly identical performance to the i7 3930k 3.9ghz in Adobe Premiere. Those chips are only $70 on eBay these days and a great deal if you don't have a 3930k already and a unused X79 motherboard.

Neither is future proof since the chip is like 4 years old already. Give it 1 more year and the new sockets will be out with a reason to upgrade from a 5 year old chip (at that point). Right now the 3930k is still faster than the i7 6700k (Skylake) in video editing. Mainly because the 6700k is a 4core.

I hope that helps

yeah, i think the E5 isnt that great when it comes to age, but that price/ performance is pretty good. Does Intel releases CPU for a newer socket like every a year and a half or something? So i don't get it when people say "This CPU is newer, faster, and the upgrade ability is much more than the older CPU"

Intel releases a new socket/generation every year. Usually its at most 10% faster than last year chips. So if you wait 4 years than its worth an upgrade. Every socket iteration comes with new features like PCIE 3.0, USB 3.1, M.2 slots, etc. So besides having a faster CPU, you get new tech.

 

[g00ey]

I don't think they release a new generation *every* year. The LGA2011 was released in 2011 which is a successor to 1366 (Core 2/i7/...) that was released in 2008 and 1567 (Xeon) that was released in 2010. I think that they "merged" the Core and Xeon lines of CPUs into one platform. After LGA2011 came LGA2011-1 and then LGA2011-3 that were both released in the same year of 2014. This is the high-end line of CPUs and chipsets.

Then you have mid-range and entry level products using e.g. socket LGA1151 etc, so if you account for all of Intel's lines, then I guess you could say that they release an update every year.

For many Xeon models, I think you can find a corresponding Core model, the price difference is not that big but usually the Core version is a little bit cheaper. The difference is that the Xeon supports ECC RAM whereas a Core CPU does not, some Xeon models have QPI links that are necessary for multi-CPU systems. The first digit in the Xeon model tells how many QPI links it has = maximum allowed CPU on the same motherboard; Ex-1xxx means 1 CPU, E5-2xxx means 2 CPUs, Ex-4xxx means 4 CPUs and E7-8xxx means 8 CPUs are supported. The Xeons cannot be overclocked while some Core models can, I believe K models of Core CPUs support overclocking. The second digit of the Xeon means what socket it is for where 2 means either 1150 or 1151 and 6 and 8 means LGA2011x sockets.

 

[iamacow]

Hmm lets see, we got the 1366, 1156, 2011, 1150, 2011v3 and now the 1151. 6 Sockets for 8 years isn't far off. In 6 months we will have 2 new sockets one to replace the 2011v3 and a new consumer one for 1151. Oh and I forgot since Xeons don't work on 1151, they made a new socket/chipset for those too.

And g00ey is right you cannot overclock a Xeon. I tried and it doesn't work well. I got 400mhz OC with some strange offset settings and Strap lol. Not stable in the long run besides a few benchmarks.