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If you mean can you create your own XP cd from the installation on your hard
drive, the answer is no.

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Why didn't you ACTUALLY put a question or more comments in the body of your
message?

Ask the people you bought the computer from. An official reseller has to
provide you a way to restore your system to the condition it was in when you
bought it.

HOW they do this is up to them.

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If you happen to have a HP or Compaq computer:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?product=71013&lang=en&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&docname=bph08097

Please read the User's Guide that came with your PC
for further assistance.

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Xp preinstalled. Do I need to creat disc and if so how. please

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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:23:01 -0700, English Pat wrote:

A disk to restore the system?

There's a lot of different ways that OEMs will provide a means to restore
their systems to factory state condition. Some do (but not all) provide a
program on their systems that users will run to create a set of
restore/recovery CDs. purposes. Check your documentation or with your OEM
to find out if you have such a program.

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That does not commonly solve potential needs. Some restore cd's have no
facility for a repair install, for example. Also, some Home users want
Backup.exe and need an XP cd to install it from.

"Sharon F" <sharonfDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:23:01 -0700, English Pat wrote:
>
> A disk to restore the system?
>
> There's a lot of different ways that OEMs will provide a means to restore
> their systems to factory state condition. Some do (but not all) provide a
> program on their systems that users will run to create a set of
> restore/recovery CDs. purposes. Check your documentation or with your OEM
> to find out if you have such a program.
>
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> MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User

 

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In news:%23m2482UuEHA.868@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
Cbarnhorst <colinbarharst(nojunk)@msn.com> typed:

> That does not commonly solve potential needs. Some restore
> cd's have
> no facility for a repair install, for example. Also, some Home
> users
> want Backup.exe and need an XP cd to install it from.


Although it's a convenience to have it, you don't *need* the CD
to install it from, since you can download it from
http://www.onecomputerguy.com/software/ntbackup.msi

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> "Sharon F" <sharonfDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eoCg$yUuEHA.4040@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:23:01 -0700, English Pat wrote:
>>
>> A disk to restore the system?
>>
>> There's a lot of different ways that OEMs will provide a means
>> to
>> restore their systems to factory state condition. Some do (but
>> not
>> all) provide a program on their systems that users will run to
>> create a set of restore/recovery CDs. purposes. Check your
>> documentation or with your OEM to find out if you have such a
>> program.
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>> MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User

 

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I am aware of the download, but that was just an example of what lacking an
XP cd can mean. How would you install the rest of the components? There
are quite a few not installed by OEM folks.

"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
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> In news:%23m2482UuEHA.868@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
> Cbarnhorst <colinbarharst(nojunk)@msn.com> typed:
>
>> That does not commonly solve potential needs. Some restore cd's have
>> no facility for a repair install, for example. Also, some Home users
>> want Backup.exe and need an XP cd to install it from.
>
>
> Although it's a convenience to have it, you don't *need* the CD to install
> it from, since you can download it from
> http://www.onecomputerguy.com/software/ntbackup.msi
>
> --
> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> Please reply to the newsgroup
>
>
>> "Sharon F" <sharonfDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:eoCg$yUuEHA.4040@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:23:01 -0700, English Pat wrote:
>>>
>>> A disk to restore the system?
>>>
>>> There's a lot of different ways that OEMs will provide a means to
>>> restore their systems to factory state condition. Some do (but not
>>> all) provide a program on their systems that users will run to
>>> create a set of restore/recovery CDs. purposes. Check your
>>> documentation or with your OEM to find out if you have such a
>>> program.
>>> --
>>> Sharon F
>>> MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User
>
>

 

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In news:u3VwbnVuEHA.2808@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl,
Cbarnhorst <colinbarharst(nojunk)@msn.com> typed:

>I am aware of the download, but that was just an example of what
> lacking an XP cd can mean. How would you install the rest of
> the
> components? There are quite a few not installed by OEM folks.


Yes, I agree with you. I'm not in favor of OEM restore CDs and
would never to choose to buy a system which only came with one. I
was only pointing out to you (and anyone else reading who didn't
realize it) that *that* particular disadvantage is not as severe
as it might otherwise seem.

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> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:uq5$DOVuEHA.272@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> In news:%23m2482UuEHA.868@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
>> Cbarnhorst <colinbarharst(nojunk)@msn.com> typed:
>>
>>> That does not commonly solve potential needs. Some restore
>>> cd's
>>> have no facility for a repair install, for example. Also,
>>> some
>>> Home users want Backup.exe and need an XP cd to install it
>>> from.
>>
>>
>> Although it's a convenience to have it, you don't *need* the
>> CD to
>> install it from, since you can download it from
>> http://www.onecomputerguy.com/software/ntbackup.msi
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>> Please reply to the newsgroup
>>
>>
>>> "Sharon F" <sharonfDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:eoCg$yUuEHA.4040@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:23:01 -0700, English Pat wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A disk to restore the system?
>>>>
>>>> There's a lot of different ways that OEMs will provide a
>>>> means to
>>>> restore their systems to factory state condition. Some do
>>>> (but not
>>>> all) provide a program on their systems that users will run
>>>> to
>>>> create a set of restore/recovery CDs. purposes. Check your
>>>> documentation or with your OEM to find out if you have such
>>>> a
>>>> program.
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>>>> MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User

 

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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 16:14:54 -0600, Cbarnhorst wrote:

> That does not commonly solve potential needs. Some restore cd's have no
> facility for a repair install, for example. Also, some Home users want
> Backup.exe and need an XP cd to install it from.

That's true and I agree with all you've said. Because of that, I build my
own desktop systems and purchase a retail copy of the operating system.
This means warranty service and technical support are provided by multiple
sources instead of one (Dell, Gateway, etc) but feel that the extra bother
is worthwhile.

I realize not everyone is going to build their own computer and will buy a
pre-built system with Windows already installed. In this case, it is a good
idea to find out before purchasing exactly what is supplied for recovery
purposes and what isn't.

If the provided OEM solution doesn't supply the desired recovery methods
the choice is to buy a different system with a better or more convenient
recovery methods.

Or one could devise their own method for protecting your data and restoring
your system. For example, one could create an image of the system when it
is setup exactly the way they want it. Supplement this with periodic images
(current configuration) and regular data backups and there's not much that
could come your way that you couldn't quickly recover from.

In addition to a desktop PC, I regularly use a tablet PC. Imaging plus data
backups is how I manage that system.

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Sharon,

I just went through a clean install (upgrading drives) only to have FAST
fail to recognize its own files! Fortunately, I prepped and had data
folders offloaded to external drives and a complete system backup at hand
(hooray for Retrospect 6.5). Although it was like combing through a Library
of Congress index with a lobster fork, I got 100% of the files and settings
I wanted installed. I also have the old system drive to fall back on since
there was nothing wrong with it, but a good recovery plan carried out is
like a good Xanax prescription.

On another topic, you commented favorably about Diskeeper a few days ago. I
have been using Diskeeper 9 Home for several days and it is SPEEDY. It now
includes a performance map tab in addition to the drive map tab. The
difference is that the performance map shows which fragmented files impact
performance and which don't, so now you can decide when to defrag based on
whether or not you are going to get much performance gain. Lot's of red on
the map means performance is being seriously impacted.

"Sharon F" <sharonfDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23DgfrCWuEHA.948@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 16:14:54 -0600, Cbarnhorst wrote:
>
>> That does not commonly solve potential needs. Some restore cd's have no
>> facility for a repair install, for example. Also, some Home users want
>> Backup.exe and need an XP cd to install it from.
>
> That's true and I agree with all you've said. Because of that, I build my
> own desktop systems and purchase a retail copy of the operating system.
> This means warranty service and technical support are provided by multiple
> sources instead of one (Dell, Gateway, etc) but feel that the extra bother
> is worthwhile.
>
> I realize not everyone is going to build their own computer and will buy a
> pre-built system with Windows already installed. In this case, it is a
> good
> idea to find out before purchasing exactly what is supplied for recovery
> purposes and what isn't.
>
> If the provided OEM solution doesn't supply the desired recovery methods
> the choice is to buy a different system with a better or more convenient
> recovery methods.
>
> Or one could devise their own method for protecting your data and
> restoring
> your system. For example, one could create an image of the system when it
> is setup exactly the way they want it. Supplement this with periodic
> images
> (current configuration) and regular data backups and there's not much that
> could come your way that you couldn't quickly recover from.
>
> In addition to a desktop PC, I regularly use a tablet PC. Imaging plus
> data
> backups is how I manage that system.
>
> --
> Sharon F
> MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User

 

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On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:00:50 -0600, Cbarnhorst wrote:

> I just went through a clean install (upgrading drives) only to have FAST
> fail to recognize its own files! Fortunately, I prepped and had data
> folders offloaded to external drives and a complete system backup at hand
> (hooray for Retrospect 6.5). Although it was like combing through a Library
> of Congress index with a lobster fork, I got 100% of the files and settings
> I wanted installed. I also have the old system drive to fall back on since
> there was nothing wrong with it, but a good recovery plan carried out is
> like a good Xanax prescription.
>
> On another topic, you commented favorably about Diskeeper a few days ago. I
> have been using Diskeeper 9 Home for several days and it is SPEEDY. It now
> includes a performance map tab in addition to the drive map tab. The
> difference is that the performance map shows which fragmented files impact
> performance and which don't, so now you can decide when to defrag based on
> whether or not you are going to get much performance gain. Lot's of red on
> the map means performance is being seriously impacted.

Sorry FAST gave you such trouble but am glad to hear that you had other
backups to fall back on. And agree with your assessment of a good recovery
plan

Thanks for the info about the new developments in Diskeeper.

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yw

"Sharon F" <sharonfDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
news:e4CPUzcuEHA.3984@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:00:50 -0600, Cbarnhorst wrote:
>
>> I just went through a clean install (upgrading drives) only to have FAST
>> fail to recognize its own files! Fortunately, I prepped and had data
>> folders offloaded to external drives and a complete system backup at hand
>> (hooray for Retrospect 6.5). Although it was like combing through a
>> Library
>> of Congress index with a lobster fork, I got 100% of the files and
>> settings
>> I wanted installed. I also have the old system drive to fall back on
>> since
>> there was nothing wrong with it, but a good recovery plan carried out is
>> like a good Xanax prescription.
>>
>> On another topic, you commented favorably about Diskeeper a few days ago.
>> I
>> have been using Diskeeper 9 Home for several days and it is SPEEDY. It
>> now
>> includes a performance map tab in addition to the drive map tab. The
>> difference is that the performance map shows which fragmented files
>> impact
>> performance and which don't, so now you can decide when to defrag based
>> on
>> whether or not you are going to get much performance gain. Lot's of red
>> on
>> the map means performance is being seriously impacted.
>
> Sorry FAST gave you such trouble but am glad to hear that you had other
> backups to fall back on. And agree with your assessment of a good recovery
> plan
>
> Thanks for the info about the new developments in Diskeeper.
>
> --
> Sharon F
> MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User