XP2500+ Stock cooler

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OK, I'm trying to spec a system for my brother, on a fairly tight budget, so I was wondering how good the stock XP2500+ cooler is?

Sadly, because the budget is quite tight, this is a non-mobile XP chip, so I'm just hoping I won't end up with a lemon which can't do 11x200 fairly easily (as the multi will be locked, probably :frown: ). Is the stock AMD 2500+ HSF going to be good enough for running at 3200+ speeds?

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scottchen

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it's like a 50/50 chance, the more recent ones i've built in the last couple weeks, cannot hit 200FSB without 1.85Vcore which stock won't handle.

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<b>Is the stock AMD 2500+ HSF going to be good enough for running at 3200+ speeds?</b>
No, it's not. You need better HSF. Mine runs at 11*200 @ 1.725V with Thermaltake TR2-M3 HSF.

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umm for the xp2500+ i dont think its 50/50 all of them shoulde b able to hit 200mhz easily, I have a 2500+ and just bought it a month ago and its at 205mhz mulitpler 11 since its locked and its on 1.725v. The 2500+ would easliy hit 3200 speed... and the stock cooling is ok.. would still be better the get a aftermarket hsf.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by ahgill on 05/25/04 05:17 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 

scottchen

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I've built about 27 of them in the last 2 weeks... I think i'd know a little better. i just know less than 15 of them could do 3200+ speeds with under 1.8Vcore.

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damn. Had a feeling that would be the case. Ah well, the fact I'm squeezing a 9800Pro in there should help :smile:

I'm trying to give him the best gaming rig I can build for under £380. I'd say in budget terms that's probably equal to a little under US$480-$500, as stuff over here costs a bit more than what the exchange rate would suggest.

I'm looking at an Abit NF7-S and a 9800Pro, so I don't think he'll feel <i>too</i> shortchanged with something like 185x11 or so... :smile:

The system so far:
XP2500+
Abit NF7-S
512Mb PC3200 (generic, 1 stick)
Cheap case W/ 350W PSU
450W Q-tec PSU (Not sure about the 350 that comes with the case)
Sapphire atlantis 9800Pro 128Mb(heard some of these come with 128-bit memory - Sapphire's site only lists 256-bit though)

This comes to slightly over budget, with shipping. If I was willing to trust the PSU that comes with the case, I could save some cash though - any thoughts?

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scottchen

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Get the standard NF7 the non-S version, the last 5 i've seen hits 220FSB. I wouldn't trust the case psu.

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endyen

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The psu that comes with the case should last a couple of months. Get the xp-m 2400+ and a vantec aeroflow with the money you save. You should be good to around 2.3-2.4 that way, and may get really lucky. Make sure the "customer" knows the score.
By the way, the xp2500+ comes with a number of different hsf. The AVC has a great sink (after lapping) but a slower fan. It's nice because it's quiet, but still good.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by endyen on 05/25/04 09:08 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 

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I've considered the NF7 (non -S) too, but the lack of soundstorm puts me off.

The trouble with getting a mobile XP is the site I was looking at doesn't stock them :frown: , and other sites that do, seem to charge more for everything else. He doesn't have a great deal of cash (He's married :lol: ), so I don't want to leave him in a situation where he needs to upgrade anything soon, so I'd rather not 'borrow' funds from stuff like the PSU.

Hmm.. maybe I should just buy <i>myself</i> a Mobile XP, and sell him my XP1700+ (in the sig) :smile: for a small fee (£20 or something) That way I effectively get a cheaper mobile chip, and he gets a T-bred that hits 2.2Ghz on low Vcore. hmm. This sound like a good plan to you guys?

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>I thought SB Live! 5.1 are dirt cheap nowdays aren't they?

I wouldnt want one if you gave it to me for free.

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I'm still using it over my SoundStorm cuz I've got sh|t non-digital speakers!
It's more the gaming performance hit that concerns me. Can't beat nforce APU when it comes to that.

hmm. Thinking I might still stick with the non-mobile 2500+, just so I can get a retail chip with a HSF. Sadly I can't justify buying a Mobile 2500+ just for myself, and it would be a bit of a waste on him :eek: .. This budget is really annoying - I hate trying to compromise on stuff.

He's going from an Athlon 600, 256Mb PC100, on-board 32Mb TNT2-Ultra, to this new rig, so I think even the stock 2500+ performance will have him happy..

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ChipDeath

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What I mean is I can't really justify upgrading from a 2.26Ghz T-bred to a 2.4Ghz+ Barton. It's just not enough of an upgrade for me to justify spending the cash at the moment.

I would happily screw him over in the manner you describe (that's what brothers are for!) - but available funds just don't cover it sadly.

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I realize budgets , but Speeze/Spire falcon rock is only $10 in the states , its quiet and should give room for oc
better than stock
just a thought
 

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He's going from an Athlon 600, 256Mb PC100, on-board 32Mb TNT2-Ultra, to this new rig, so I think even the stock 2500+ performance will have him happy..
Wow. No flirking schiznit! That's quite the upgrade.

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