XPS R400 will not boot

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Hi all,
I replaced the cdrom drive in my dell dimension pentium 2 400Mhz 128Mb
RAM with a cd writer (Philips 5200 series PCRW5232K). I set the
jumpers to master (I also tried cable select)and I powered up the
machine. The HD spins up and the cd writer receives power but the boot
process does not even get as far as showing anything on the monitor.
There are no POST beeps at all. I then replaced the cdwriter with my
old cdrom drive expecting everything to be back to normal and I have
exactly the same problem. All ribbon cables and power connections are
firmly seated. The video card is working fine. I tried disconnecting
and reconnecting all my IDE cables. I tried all jumper positions on
each drive.

Please help I am now without a functioning PC.

Thanks
Andrew

 

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reseat the video card and check your video cable connection.

"Andrew Gaskell" <agaskelluk@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:63c811db.0404170411.4e610201@posting.google.com...
> Hi all,
> I replaced the cdrom drive in my dell dimension pentium 2 400Mhz 128Mb
> RAM with a cd writer (Philips 5200 series PCRW5232K). I set the
> jumpers to master (I also tried cable select)and I powered up the
> machine. The HD spins up and the cd writer receives power but the boot
> process does not even get as far as showing anything on the monitor.
> There are no POST beeps at all. I then replaced the cdwriter with my
> old cdrom drive expecting everything to be back to normal and I have
> exactly the same problem. All ribbon cables and power connections are
> firmly seated. The video card is working fine. I tried disconnecting
> and reconnecting all my IDE cables. I tried all jumper positions on
> each drive.
>
> Please help I am now without a functioning PC.
>
> Thanks
> Andrew

 

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Thanks for the prompt response. I tried reseating the video card, but
this made no difference. Video cable connection is fine. Here is what
I tried to begin with before I reattached the cdrom alone as master:
attached cd writer as secondary device and cd rom as primary with all
combinations of master/slave/cable select. Results: depending on which
was master/slave the machine would either not boot (same behaviour as
below) or would boot but windows did not see either the cdrom or
cdwriter drives. Finally I tried as described below with just the
writer as master and no cdrom drive. It almost seems like the machine
is somehow "stuck" and still remembers seeing the writer attached
which it would not boot with, rather than the cdrom drive. I've tried
reseating ALL IDE connectors and I even swapped primary with secondary
and reseated the CMOS battery. Please help!

Regards
Andrew


"WSZsr" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<bR9gc.23481$QG5.3283@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com>...
> reseat the video card and check your video cable connection.
>
> "Andrew Gaskell" <agaskelluk@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:63c811db.0404170411.4e610201@posting.google.com...
> > Hi all,
> > I replaced the cdrom drive in my dell dimension pentium 2 400Mhz 128Mb
> > RAM with a cd writer (Philips 5200 series PCRW5232K). I set the
> > jumpers to master (I also tried cable select)and I powered up the
> > machine. The HD spins up and the cd writer receives power but the boot
> > process does not even get as far as showing anything on the monitor.
> > There are no POST beeps at all. I then replaced the cdwriter with my
> > old cdrom drive expecting everything to be back to normal and I have
> > exactly the same problem. All ribbon cables and power connections are
> > firmly seated. The video card is working fine. I tried disconnecting
> > and reconnecting all my IDE cables. I tried all jumper positions on
> > each drive.
> >
> > Please help I am now without a functioning PC.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Andrew

 

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sounds like a bios mis-match to your new config...
you haven't stated which bios version you are running I assume it is vA13
....
at the top of the menu (about the fourth or fifth selection) is the "boot"
setting...
you should probably set this something like "removeable drive - 1st"; "hard
drive-second"; and "cd rom drive-third"...etc...
as you will want your bios to look at the floppy first... the hard drive
second ... and the cd rom third ...etc...

also you should probably jumper all your drives cable select and use the
orginal cable select detecting IDE cables that came with your computer...

alternatively you can manually configure each as master and slave for each
of the two ide channels ... etc... and config the same setup in your bios...

you shoul probably be going to the Dell RXXX help pages and reading about
the entire bios setup procedure... I doubt there is anything really wrong
with your computer ... check here ...
<http://docs.us.dell.com/docs/systems/dkhan/Docs.htm>

- brian





"Andrew Gaskell" <agaskelluk@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:63c811db.0404171004.50f9fe9@posting.google.com...
> Thanks for the prompt response. I tried reseating the video card, but
> this made no difference. Video cable connection is fine. Here is what
> I tried to begin with before I reattached the cdrom alone as master:
> attached cd writer as secondary device and cd rom as primary with all
> combinations of master/slave/cable select. Results: depending on which
> was master/slave the machine would either not boot (same behaviour as
> below) or would boot but windows did not see either the cdrom or
> cdwriter drives. Finally I tried as described below with just the
> writer as master and no cdrom drive. It almost seems like the machine
> is somehow "stuck" and still remembers seeing the writer attached
> which it would not boot with, rather than the cdrom drive. I've tried
> reseating ALL IDE connectors and I even swapped primary with secondary
> and reseated the CMOS battery. Please help!
>
> Regards
> Andrew
>
>
> "WSZsr" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<bR9gc.23481$QG5.3283@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com>...
> > reseat the video card and check your video cable connection.
> >
> > "Andrew Gaskell" <agaskelluk@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:63c811db.0404170411.4e610201@posting.google.com...
> > > Hi all,
> > > I replaced the cdrom drive in my dell dimension pentium 2 400Mhz 128Mb
> > > RAM with a cd writer (Philips 5200 series PCRW5232K). I set the
> > > jumpers to master (I also tried cable select)and I powered up the
> > > machine. The HD spins up and the cd writer receives power but the boot
> > > process does not even get as far as showing anything on the monitor.
> > > There are no POST beeps at all. I then replaced the cdwriter with my
> > > old cdrom drive expecting everything to be back to normal and I have
> > > exactly the same problem. All ribbon cables and power connections are
> > > firmly seated. The video card is working fine. I tried disconnecting
> > > and reconnecting all my IDE cables. I tried all jumper positions on
> > > each drive.
> > >
> > > Please help I am now without a functioning PC.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Andrew

 

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agaskelluk@yahoo.com (Andrew Gaskell) wrote:

>Thanks for the prompt response. I tried reseating the video card, but
>this made no difference. Video cable connection is fine. Here is what
>I tried to begin with before I reattached the cdrom alone as master:
>attached cd writer as secondary device and cd rom as primary with all
>combinations of master/slave/cable select. Results: depending on which
>was master/slave the machine would either not boot (same behaviour as
>below) or would boot but windows did not see either the cdrom or
>cdwriter drives. Finally I tried as described below with just the
>writer as master and no cdrom drive. It almost seems like the machine
>is somehow "stuck" and still remembers seeing the writer attached
>which it would not boot with, rather than the cdrom drive. I've tried
>reseating ALL IDE connectors and I even swapped primary with secondary
>and reseated the CMOS battery. Please help!

This may sound like a dumb question - well two questions.

1. Why are you trying to boot from the CD Drives?

1a. [OK, three questions] Is it because your
Windows/linux/unix/whatever installation not boot from C:?

2. If 1.a. is the reason, why aren't you trouble-shooting that?
--
OJ III
[Email sent to Yahoo address is burned before reading.
Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]

 

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On 19 Apr 2004 01:33:03 -0700, agaskelluk@yahoo.com (Andrew Gaskell)
wrote:

>I'm not sure which BIOS I am using but I think it may be A13, its
>whatever originally came with my XPSR400, I never flashed it.

Unless you bought your XPS R400 after 11/19/1999 you probably have an
older BIOS than A13.

You can get the A13 BIOS here (this will take you to the Dell site):

http://tinyurl.com/3d4u7

If this doesn't get you there, just go to support.dell.com, downloads,
and enter your information to find it.

Once there you will find instructions for how to install it.


George
gearlnospamno@nospamcomcast.net

 

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I managed to solve the problem! It was more basic than first appeared
- the processor cartridge was not completely flush with its slot on
the mb - I pushed it slightly and it moved back into place. The
machine now boots normally. However I would have thought that I would
have seen some diagnostics on the monitor since the bios lives on the
mb?


George Earl <gearl@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<0ji880hcp1h1n86c2ijs08j7n1ms4ei5e8@4ax.com>...
> On 19 Apr 2004 01:33:03 -0700, agaskelluk@yahoo.com (Andrew Gaskell)
> wrote:
>
> >I'm not sure which BIOS I am using but I think it may be A13, its
> >whatever originally came with my XPSR400, I never flashed it.
>
> Unless you bought your XPS R400 after 11/19/1999 you probably have an
> older BIOS than A13.
>
> You can get the A13 BIOS here (this will take you to the Dell site):
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3d4u7
>
> If this doesn't get you there, just go to support.dell.com, downloads,
> and enter your information to find it.
>
> Once there you will find instructions for how to install it.
>
>
> George
> gearlnospamno@nospamcomcast.net

 

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But the BIOS by itself is just Flash Memory. It requires a CPU to read and
process the BIOS and to send information to the video card to display on the
monitor.

No CPU, no video.
"Andrew Gaskell" <agaskelluk@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:63c811db.0404200053.3c42f90f@posting.google.com...
> I managed to solve the problem! It was more basic than first appeared
> - the processor cartridge was not completely flush with its slot on
> the mb - I pushed it slightly and it moved back into place. The
> machine now boots normally. However I would have thought that I would
> have seen some diagnostics on the monitor since the bios lives on the
> mb?
>
>
> George Earl <gearl@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<0ji880hcp1h1n86c2ijs08j7n1ms4ei5e8@4ax.com>...
> > On 19 Apr 2004 01:33:03 -0700, agaskelluk@yahoo.com (Andrew Gaskell)
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I'm not sure which BIOS I am using but I think it may be A13, its
> > >whatever originally came with my XPSR400, I never flashed it.
> >
> > Unless you bought your XPS R400 after 11/19/1999 you probably have an
> > older BIOS than A13.
> >
> > You can get the A13 BIOS here (this will take you to the Dell site):
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/3d4u7
> >
> > If this doesn't get you there, just go to support.dell.com, downloads,
> > and enter your information to find it.
> >
> > Once there you will find instructions for how to install it.
> >
> >
> > George
> > gearlnospamno@nospamcomcast.net

 

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Ah, right I see.
Many thanks to all who responded to my post.

Regards
Andrew

"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message news:<mrSdnesNMMtfdhndRVn-hg@comcast.com>...
> But the BIOS by itself is just Flash Memory. It requires a CPU to read and
> process the BIOS and to send information to the video card to display on the
> monitor.
>
> No CPU, no video.
> "Andrew Gaskell" <agaskelluk@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:63c811db.0404200053.3c42f90f@posting.google.com...
> > I managed to solve the problem! It was more basic than first appeared
> > - the processor cartridge was not completely flush with its slot on
> > the mb - I pushed it slightly and it moved back into place. The
> > machine now boots normally. However I would have thought that I would
> > have seen some diagnostics on the monitor since the bios lives on the
> > mb?
> >
> >
> > George Earl <gearl@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:<0ji880hcp1h1n86c2ijs08j7n1ms4ei5e8@4ax.com>...
> > > On 19 Apr 2004 01:33:03 -0700, agaskelluk@yahoo.com (Andrew Gaskell)
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >I'm not sure which BIOS I am using but I think it may be A13, its
> > > >whatever originally came with my XPSR400, I never flashed it.
> > >
> > > Unless you bought your XPS R400 after 11/19/1999 you probably have an
> > > older BIOS than A13.
> > >
> > > You can get the A13 BIOS here (this will take you to the Dell site):
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/3d4u7
> > >
> > > If this doesn't get you there, just go to support.dell.com, downloads,
> > > and enter your information to find it.
> > >
> > > Once there you will find instructions for how to install it.
> > >
> > >
> > > George
> > > gearlnospamno@nospamcomcast.net