Xtasy 9500 Pro OC attempt

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Hello all..

This will be my attempt (this weekend) of unlocking the BIOS Xtasy 9500 Pro card to a 9700 Pro capable. I haven't seen a review for one of these cards nor have I even heard of one being overclocked...so, this is going to be interesting. I will keep you posted and let you know what happens. First off, let me give you my system specs:

OS: Windows XP Home Edition w/ SP1
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+ @ 2.1GHz
Memory: 1536MB Crucial PC2700 RAM
DirectX Vers: DirectX 9.0b
Mobo: Abit NF7
Harddisk: 2 X 120GB Maxtor 7200 rpm w/ 8MB cache
Sound: SB Audigy Platinum X-Gamer
Video: Xtasy 9500 Pro 128MB
CD-RW: Lite-on 48X24X48
DVD-R: Lite-on 16X
Speakers: Altec Lansing 621

Next up are the benchmarks: I don't have a copy of 3dmark2003 so I guess I'll skip it unless I get a copy before tomorrow night (that's when I'll go for the unlock)

3dmark2001SE ran today: 12136
3dmark2001SE top mark w/ this card: 12598

More benches to come....I hafta go eat something first :tongue:


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Isn't that 3dMark score kind of low for a 9500Pro? Maybe your system is holding you back a bit?

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Um... thats impossible.

9500 pros already have the 8 pipes enabled, but its limited to a 128 bit memory interface by design. You're thinking of the wrong card, only SOME 9500 non-pros can do that. Visiontek has never made any capable of such a mod.

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Well, I may not be able to 'change' the card into a 9700 Pro but I might be able to attain the clock speeds. There's <A HREF="http://www.3dchipset.com/bios/ati/warp11/index.php" target="_new">this</A> site that seems to think I can 'uncap' the 9500 Pro. <A HREF="http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardware/ati_radeon_9500_pro_overclock/default.asp" target="_new">Here's</A> another place with support for this as well. <A HREF="http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33654157" target="_new">Here's</A> the forum thread for it. This is what I plan on doing. Dunno if it will work...opinions?

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Those are the scores that I get...with no doctoring, no overclocking.

Let me know how a system with those specs can hold it back...I don't think with that setup it's possible.

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ok...now for some UT2K3 benchmarks:
Flyby Inferno
28.131285 / 100.765892 / 530.528259 fps rand[20258]
Score = 100.874496
Flyby Antalus
1.840412 / 128.705368 / 336.898651 fps rand[7524]
Score = 128.739883
Flyby Phobos2
39.712936 / 131.239166 / 491.370697 fps rand[22638]
Score = 131.291550
Flyby Asbestos
95.054474 / 184.545166 / 521.870056 fps rand[16929]
Score = 184.714355

Some Botmatches...

Botmatch Inferno
5.200918 / 149.963501 / 1.#INF00 fps rand[2779]
Score = 149.551270
Botmatch Antalus
12.155176 / 51.496708 / 165.758453 fps rand[2094]
Score = 51.521729
Botmatch Asbestos
28.177307 / 62.040478 / 113.777046 fps rand[24939]
Score = 62.071335

Ok...I'll attempt the OC tonight...last night I had a huge thunderstorm and didn't want to fry anything.



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Well did u try <A HREF="http://content.guru3d.com/index.php?page=rivatuner&menu=8" target="_new"> RivaTuner</A> like I mentioned to u b4? Might not b able to `overclock` the mem and core but at least u will get the 256bit bandwith that will give u 9700 spec without any bios flashing ( not something I would do ). Like I said it is all done thru software so u r 100% safe with it.

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WRONG ANDY! Riva Tuner includes the 9700-9800 DRIVER HACK!

It is impossible to get a 256bit memory bus on a 9500 pro.

Riva Tuner dosnt even work with recent Catalysts.

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My mistake...It`s only on certain L memory 9500np that u can.

I quote this from something I read on the net...

"Plain old 9500 128M on a red board with L shaped memory = GOOD

9500 128 on a black board = BAD

9500 128 on either color with memory in straight line across top = BAD

9500 64M = BAD

9500 Pro = BAD

If you have a red PCB 9500 128M with L shaped memory the 128bit bus can be opened up to 256 with a soft mod (driver hack). If you own certain brands you will have to use a hacked bios to overclock, but this will not affect your ability to open up the 4 other pipes with a drive hack. (I bought a Power Color Evil Commando and didn't have to change the bios, it would OC right out of the box, Sapphire's howerever require it).

THERE IS NO WAY TO GET A 256bit bus on a 9500Pro. Period. IT CAN'T be done. It is physically different - no warp bios driver hack or lucky rabbit's foot can change that.

If you have the right board, according to what some site's have said, you can expect to get to 9700 levels about 60% of the tim. I've had three of the "right" kind of 9500s and only one has worked flawlessly. The other two had "artifacts" when the 4 closed pipes were unlocked(little black squares that band across the screen, making it useless to play on).

As for speed. If everything works and you have the right card, you can expect 9700 speed. Not 9700 Pro. The memory on the 9500 is slower and won't overclock to 9700 Pro speeds well (some have been able to, be they are the exception not the rule)."


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Well, the memory on this Xtasy 9500 Pro is in a straight line. It's on a red board though. The Cat 3.6's come with an ability to raise the core clock and memory clock up via display settings advance tab in XP. So, it is really pointless for me to try anything other than OCing via that way. If I try any softmodding it will probably end up jacking the settings up. I might just see where I can get it stable at...


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yep...default scores...settings. Easiest to see if one gains any performance by setting a standard for the tests.

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That card will not OC more than 5Mhz in both memory and core. If I went higher than 280 on the core clock it died...if I went higher than 275 on memory...it dumped once again. NOT an OCing card at all. In fact...that's the worse card I've ever seen for OCing...I'll have to upgrade later and give this one to my sister who isn't a performance junky. Anyways, thanks for all the help...too bad it didn't work out.

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