Hello.
TL;DR: Should I get a Yamakasi Catleap, a gaming TN 120+Hz monitor or a gaming IPS monitor?
I'm trying to decide which monitor I should buy as an upgrade from my old Samsung P2450H, which looks like crap. Smoothly changing gradients cause horrible flickering and wavy patterns, green colored things moving over a red background look jagged and flicker and there are bright ghosts after black things moving over bright backgrounds. Needless to say it's about time I upgrade. Currently I'm trying to choose between an ASUS gaming TN, an Eizo gaming IPS or a Yamakasi Catleap.
I'll soon be upgrading my old computer to an i7 4770k overclocked as far as I can manage on air, and two 2GB GTX 770s in SLI.
What I'll be using it for:
- Gaming. I mostly play League of Legends and Planetside 2, but I occasionally play much more graphically heavy games like Metro, Crysis and BF3 (and 4 when it comes out I guess). Although I don't game as much as I used to, it's a VERY important to me that I'll still be able to game well without input lag or heavy ghosting, but considering what I'm upgrading from I doubt a gaming IPS monitor would be worse than the Samsung monitor I currently have.
- Graphics programming. I'm an aspiring game graphics programmer, meaning that things like color accuracy is important, although slightly less important than for someone who uses Photoshop. In addition to colors I again need smooth motion and minimal ghosting to be able to test my own games in motion.
- Anime. Pretty straightforward I guess; good colors and not horrible ghosting is good enough here. Although I do use frame interpolation software to actually get 60 FPS (at this time) I doubt I'll be able to run it at 120 FPS so 60 is enough.
Since I basically need a screen with good gaming capabilities AND good colors for my own graphics programming, I'm having a hard time deciding on what to pick. I know IPS is superior when it comes to color quality, but sacrifice input delay and motion sharpness to get that. I've also realized that I can see a day-and-night difference between 60 and 120Hz monitors in games, so the higher the better.
Monitor candidates:
ASUS VG248QE 24"
Cost: 2400 SEK
I have had an opportunity to test this monitor.
Pros:
- Awesome gaming. I estimated the input latency with a camera to around 5-10ms less than my current screen.
- 144Hz looks great in fast games as long as my GPU(s) can pump out that many frames per second.
- 2D LightBoost hack supposedly reduces ghosting, but I can't see the difference it seems..
- 1920x1080 is good for 1080p anime and movies.
Cons:
- TN screen: Bad view angle, color distortions, somewhat dull colors.
- 100+ FPS is hard to maintain in Planetside 2 and future games, and makes no difference for anime or League of Legends (almost no camera movement).
- 24" is not an upgrade from what I have.
Eizo Foris FS2333 23"
Cost: 2500 SEK
Not tested... The list below is based on reviews and hearsay.
Pros:
- IPS screen: Perfect view angle and color accuracy.
- Supposedly lower input latency compared to other IPS monitors, which should make it suitable for gaming (probably better than my current anyway).
- 1920x1080 is good for 1080p anime and movies.
Cons:
- Worse motion and ghosting?
- Only 60 Hz. Overclockable perhaps?
- 23" is a downgrade...
Yamakasi Catleap 27" (relatively unknown Korean manufacturer, Google it)
Cost: ~3000 SEK
Not tested...
Pros:
- One of the best IPS panels on the market (= good colors).
- 27"!
- 2560x1440 is nice when programming.
- May be overclockable. I'd be super happy if it goes to 80-100Hz.
- Stripped clean of all input delay increasing elements (scaler, OSD), but unknown how it compares to the ASUS or Eizo monitors.
- Best tradeoff between gaming and image quality?
Cons:
- Risky buy. Slightly higher risk of dead pixels and backlight bleeding combined with high costs for RMA.
- 2560x1440 too large? Almost halves FPS in most games + 2GB VRAM might be too low in that case.
- Worse motion and ghosting?
- Not optimal for 1080p due to scaling (but good for 720p).
Considering only features/performance the Catleap wins assuming input delay is lower than on my current Samsung monitor, but the risk is a bit worrying. However, if I'd pick the Catleap I'm not sure which one I'd pick. The Eizo gaming IPS looks like a very potent combination of gaming and image quality, but
This turned into a horrible wall of text as usual... >_>
TL;DR: Should I get a Yamakasi Catleap, a gaming TN 120+Hz monitor or a gaming IPS monitor?
I'm trying to decide which monitor I should buy as an upgrade from my old Samsung P2450H, which looks like crap. Smoothly changing gradients cause horrible flickering and wavy patterns, green colored things moving over a red background look jagged and flicker and there are bright ghosts after black things moving over bright backgrounds. Needless to say it's about time I upgrade. Currently I'm trying to choose between an ASUS gaming TN, an Eizo gaming IPS or a Yamakasi Catleap.
I'll soon be upgrading my old computer to an i7 4770k overclocked as far as I can manage on air, and two 2GB GTX 770s in SLI.
What I'll be using it for:
- Gaming. I mostly play League of Legends and Planetside 2, but I occasionally play much more graphically heavy games like Metro, Crysis and BF3 (and 4 when it comes out I guess). Although I don't game as much as I used to, it's a VERY important to me that I'll still be able to game well without input lag or heavy ghosting, but considering what I'm upgrading from I doubt a gaming IPS monitor would be worse than the Samsung monitor I currently have.
- Graphics programming. I'm an aspiring game graphics programmer, meaning that things like color accuracy is important, although slightly less important than for someone who uses Photoshop. In addition to colors I again need smooth motion and minimal ghosting to be able to test my own games in motion.
- Anime. Pretty straightforward I guess; good colors and not horrible ghosting is good enough here. Although I do use frame interpolation software to actually get 60 FPS (at this time) I doubt I'll be able to run it at 120 FPS so 60 is enough.
Since I basically need a screen with good gaming capabilities AND good colors for my own graphics programming, I'm having a hard time deciding on what to pick. I know IPS is superior when it comes to color quality, but sacrifice input delay and motion sharpness to get that. I've also realized that I can see a day-and-night difference between 60 and 120Hz monitors in games, so the higher the better.
Monitor candidates:
ASUS VG248QE 24"
Cost: 2400 SEK
I have had an opportunity to test this monitor.
Pros:
- Awesome gaming. I estimated the input latency with a camera to around 5-10ms less than my current screen.
- 144Hz looks great in fast games as long as my GPU(s) can pump out that many frames per second.
- 2D LightBoost hack supposedly reduces ghosting, but I can't see the difference it seems..
- 1920x1080 is good for 1080p anime and movies.
Cons:
- TN screen: Bad view angle, color distortions, somewhat dull colors.
- 100+ FPS is hard to maintain in Planetside 2 and future games, and makes no difference for anime or League of Legends (almost no camera movement).
- 24" is not an upgrade from what I have.
Eizo Foris FS2333 23"
Cost: 2500 SEK
Not tested... The list below is based on reviews and hearsay.
Pros:
- IPS screen: Perfect view angle and color accuracy.
- Supposedly lower input latency compared to other IPS monitors, which should make it suitable for gaming (probably better than my current anyway).
- 1920x1080 is good for 1080p anime and movies.
Cons:
- Worse motion and ghosting?
- Only 60 Hz. Overclockable perhaps?
- 23" is a downgrade...
Yamakasi Catleap 27" (relatively unknown Korean manufacturer, Google it)
Cost: ~3000 SEK
Not tested...
Pros:
- One of the best IPS panels on the market (= good colors).
- 27"!
- 2560x1440 is nice when programming.
- May be overclockable. I'd be super happy if it goes to 80-100Hz.
- Stripped clean of all input delay increasing elements (scaler, OSD), but unknown how it compares to the ASUS or Eizo monitors.
- Best tradeoff between gaming and image quality?
Cons:
- Risky buy. Slightly higher risk of dead pixels and backlight bleeding combined with high costs for RMA.
- 2560x1440 too large? Almost halves FPS in most games + 2GB VRAM might be too low in that case.
- Worse motion and ghosting?
- Not optimal for 1080p due to scaling (but good for 720p).
Considering only features/performance the Catleap wins assuming input delay is lower than on my current Samsung monitor, but the risk is a bit worrying. However, if I'd pick the Catleap I'm not sure which one I'd pick. The Eizo gaming IPS looks like a very potent combination of gaming and image quality, but
This turned into a horrible wall of text as usual... >_>
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