yeap i was right on the new newcastle 3400+

[turmania]

I had earlier made statements on the new amd processors and their labelling mess, good news is that they put out a new newcastle 3400+ s754 cpu. which runs at 2.4ghz and 512kb L2 cache. their pricing is around 400 USD. i'm very sure this cpu will be much better than 3400+ clawhammer which runs at 2.2ghz and 1mb L2 cache. the link to amd product listing is this, oh by the way i think the last cpu with 1mb L2 cache seems to the 3700+. and we may only find them on fx series from now on as they seem to cease producing those cpus.linky linky;

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_9487^10248,00.html

 

[scottchen]

I like the 1mb cache, for the much much higher overclocking performance gain. And for some reason the 512k cache versions doesn't seem to overclock as well as 1mb versions.

I don't think the Newcastle is gonna be much better than the Clawhammer version.
Anand has mentioned the roadmap a while ago, but i think if AMD's 90nm transition went rough, they might reintroduce the 1mb cache for the s939 chips temporarily then make them dissapear again when they can ramp up the clock speeds. But i don't know since Intel's using 1mb cache, might be a good idea to do it as well for marketing reasons.

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[Spitfire_x86]

For Athlon64, 9% to 10% extra clockspeed is always much better than extra 512k L2 cache

Newcastles may not overclock well, because they are already clocked higher.

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[endyen]

With Amd, the extra cache seems to help with heat.

 

[turmania]

well for overclocking most choose the clawhammer since you can increase the speed one way or the another but not the cache. but for non overclockers or non extreme overclockers base speed is more important, im sure even with standard cooling and a good nforce3 mobo you can easily push 3400+ newcastle to 2.6ghz from 2.4.

 

[Guest]

Bah id go with the extra cache buy PC3500 and OC a few mhz to gain that 200mhz. a 10-15mhz OC wont do any harm to your CPU.

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[scottchen]

You do know there's a 130nm max, therefore for any overclockers the larger cache is better.

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