News Z890 motherboards are having instability issues with Windows 11 24H2 — BIOS updates or disable iGPUd required to update Windows

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Totally disappointed by Intel. Will see if I can get 14900KS second hand, if Ryzen 9 9550X3D disappoints too.
Also, what's the deal with motherboards not having PCI Express slots?? Why are all motherboard manufacturers copy each other?? You can always use adapters for M.2 SSDs, but with M.2 slots all over, it's way too hard to get PCI Express slots.
 

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Totally disappointed by Intel. Will see if I can get 14900KS second hand, if Ryzen 9 9550X3D disappoints too.
Also, what's the deal with motherboards not having PCI Express slots?? Why are all motherboard manufacturers copy each other?? You can always use adapters for M.2 SSDs, but with M.2 slots all over, it's way too hard to get PCI Express slots.
14900KS second hand sounds like one of the worst option... highly likely degraded if it's real cheap
 

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Totally disappointed by Intel. Will see if I can get 14900KS second hand, if Ryzen 9 9550X3D disappoints too.
Also, what's the deal with motherboards not having PCI Express slots?? Why are all motherboard manufacturers copy each other?? You can always use adapters for M.2 SSDs, but with M.2 slots all over, it's way too hard to get PCI Express slots.
Let’s see, 7950X3D was a winner, AMD also revamped how they place the cache that probably helps with thermals and power. If like its predecessor it is within striking distance of its non-3D brother in productivity while being as good or even better in gaming than the 9800X3D then it will be no brainer for anyone upgrading from a couple generations back.
 
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I have a laptop (I9-12900HX) and desktop (I9-10900KF). On both of them after installing 24H2 Brave browser got glitchy. Rolling them back to 23H2 fixed it. I went through the cycle 2x. There are more than motherboard issues with this update.
 
I was surprised when Windows forced the 24H2 update on one of my computers, perhaps because its the only one connected by ethernet. Its a Z590 11900K system. And I got really mad when it somehow prevented me from playing aac pcm format sound. Strange that Dolby and DTS sound played normally but no pcm from either mp4 files or websites. Fortunately I had a backup which I promptly restored and I turned off Windows updates for the 5 week maximum. So I won't be considering any more 24H2 updates until after New Years.
 

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I get the anger with the release and AMD's Zen 5 was no better, and this is not much different to Alder Lake, but I do believe Arrow Lake will be a decent cpu in a few months. I couldn't care less about its gaming performance as it hasn;t been tested on 24H2 and it's still light years faster than my 5800X and that's even 245K. Losing SMT was always going to hurt some benchmarks, but I don't spend all day unzipping files. In a lot of the productivity I do there are some great improvements over Raptor Lake and power usage is way down. The e cores no longer suck, the main issue is the swo ring bus and high latency which has negated IPC gains by the P cores and that kills gaming.

Now I probably will skip Arrow lake especially if Panther Lake does appear on desktop and fixes issues with the latency and ring bus as is already being leaked, but if I have to wait for Nova Lake so be it, 9800X3D is shaping up to be great, although I'd like to move to 12 cores, but unless AMD is really putting v-cache on both ccd's or god forbid offers 16 core ccd like Epyc, I'd probably stick to 9800X3D. Don't want 995X3D/X and would prefer something like 265K if it improves.