[SOLVED] Zotac gtx 1660 6gb oc worth 80$ over Sapphire rx 580 nitro+ 4gb?

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As the title indicates, I'm having trouble deciding. I'm building my first pc with an r5 2600, basically for 60fps on high to ultra settings 1080p. I'm unsure whether it is worth spending the 60$ extra for the gtx 1660 since bench marks notes a minor increase. Any advice would gladly be assisted.
 

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If you are tight on BUDGET, then I won't recommend you to get the GTX 1660. The RX 580 is also a solid card for 1080p gaming and it's more than enough. Depending on the game, sometimes the RX will be slightly ahead than the GTX counterpart, and vice versa.

But overall both the cards are going to perform similar. But the GTX 1660 is more power efficient than the RX 580 having less max TDP.
 

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If you are tight on BUDGET, then I won't recommend you to get the GTX 1660. The RX 580 is also a solid card for 1080p gaming and it's more than enough. Depending on the game, sometimes the RX will be slightly ahead than the GTX counterpart, and vice versa.

But overall both the cards are going to perform similar. But the GTX 1660 is more power efficient than the RX 580 having less max TDP.
Thanks for the response. My budget suddenly became less tight so do you think it is worth grabbing the gtx 1660? I'm running a 700w power supply so that's never an issue.
 

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Sorry, I cannot really comment whether it would be WORTH spending the extra cash on GTX card, but nonetheless, grab the GTX 1660. It all comes down to personal taste as well. But, if you want a more power efficient card, then get the 1660 instead. In some games the GTX 1660 also performs much better than the RX variant.

I hope this helps ??
 

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Sorry, I cannot really comment whether it would be WORTH spending the extra cash on GTX card, but nonetheless, grab the GTX 1660. It all comes down to personal taste as well. But, if you want a more power efficient card, then get the 1660 instead. In some games the GTX 1660 also performs much better than the RX variant.

I hope this helps ??
It does thank you and is much appreciated!
 
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700w says nothing, and is no surity of anything and shouldn't be used as any sort of guarantee that there's plenty of power. There's multiple 700w units with only a single 6pin pcie, where the vast majority of power comes from the minor rails and there's barely enough on the 12v rail to supply even that single pcie.

I currently can't think of any high end, good quality 500, 600, 700w units
 
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Metal Messiah.

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I'm running a 700w power supply so that's never an issue.
I forgot to ask this before. What's the make and Model number of this PSU ? Just make sure it's a decent high quality PSU. A lot of peeps actually SKIMP on the PSU. And most importantly, many aren't even fully aware that WATTAGE number alone means nothing when it comes to any power supply.

The main concern is the "quality" of the power, the quality of the components used/CAPS, as well as the total AMP drawn on the +12V RAIL (output), the efficiency under load, "ripple suppression", among other factors.The total wattage number of any PSU is not always really the most important deciding factor, primary concern is the 'quality' of power it produces, and the total capacity of the 12V source etc.

Though how the rails are laid out does not affect that much, i.e. single/multiple +12V rail PSUs. Multi-rail PSU can be mildly better, especially with high wattage unit, but it won't have any impact on your performance, however, it can provide an extra layer of safety in case you get a short circuit. A multi-rail power supply has OCP on all +12V rails, ensuring that your PC components stay alive, if a problem like a short circuit occurs.

A cheap generic/no-name low-end PSU is prone to failure soon, than the units made by reputed brands like SEASONIC, Corsair, BE QUIET, EVGA Supernova, PC Power & Cooling, ANTEC, XFX, Super Flower, OCZ, just to name a few. But even some reputed brands have had some very poor quality units.

The OEM also matters a lot, instead of the actual PSU brand. I've seen PSUs labelled as 1K watts, but in actual real world scenarios, they can hardly pull 400 Watts from the wall, even under full load.
 

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I forgot to ask this before. What's the make and Model number of this PSU ? Just make it's a decent high quality PSU. A lot of peeps actually SKIMP on the PSU. And most importantly, many aren't even fully aware that WATTAGE number alone means nothing when it comes to any power supply.

The main concern is the "quality" of the power, the quality of the components used/CAPS, as well as the total AMP drawn on the +12V RAIL (output), the efficiency under load, "ripple suppression", among other factors.The total wattage number of any PSU is not always really the most important deciding factor, primary concern is the 'quality' of power it produces, and the total capacity of the 12V source etc.

Though how the rails are laid out does not affect that much, i.e. single/multiple +12V rail PSUs. Multi-rail PSU can be mildly better, especially with high wattage unit, but it won't have any impact on your performance, however, it can provide an extra layer of safety in case you get a short circuit. A multi-rail power supply has OCP on all +12V rails, ensuring that your PC components stay alive, if a problem like a short circuit occurs.

A cheap generic/standard low-end PSU is prone to failure soon, than the units made by reputed brands like SEASONIC, Corsair, BE QUIET, EVGA Supernova, PC Power & Cooling, ANTEC, XFX, Super Flower, OCZ, just to name a few.

The OEM also matters a lot, instead of the actual PSU brand. I've seen PSUs labelled as 1K watts, but in actual real world scenarios, they can hardly pull 400 Watts from the wall, even under full load.
Ye I was going to ask if you don't mind having a look at the build before I spend, and if possible whether you could recommend a suitable, yet affordable PSU please

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8LTVxG
 

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Okay, now it's visible. But what about the PSU ? It's not listed there. Are you planning to buy a new PSU ? If yes, then specify your budget for the PSU. What about your current 700 Watts PSU ? What's the make/brand of this unit ?
 

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Okay, now it's visible. But what about the PSU ? It's not listed there. Are you planning to buy a new PSU ? If yes, then specify your budget for the PSU. What about your current 700 Watts PSU ? What's the make/brand of this unit ?
The 700w was raidmax bronze rated but its no longer on sale, so its kind of overpriced. Ideally, I'd like to spend around 80$ max but if that is insufficient, I guess I'd have to increase it.

Edit* - I found a "Cooler Master MPW-5502-ACABW MWE 550W 80 Plus Certified Desktop Power Supply". Would that be sufficient or slacking?
 

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Okay. But don't ever buy the RAIDMAX PSU. All raidmax units are of very poor/inferior quality. Avoid them like a plague. Not recommend for gaming PCs. Check out the following PSU Models. Can you afford them ?

SEASONIC Focus Plus GOLD, 550 Watts:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bkp323/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-550fx

EVGA Supernova G3, 550 Watts:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sMM323/evga-supernova-g3-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g3-0550

CORSAIR TXm gold, 550 Watts:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dDH48d/corsair-txm-gold-550w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020133-na

BE QUIET Straight power 11, 550 Watts:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3Vc48d/be-quiet-straight-power-11-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn281

Cooler Master MWE GOLD, 550 Watts. This unit is of average quality, but it's not that bad either.:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PxdxFT/cooler-master-mwe-gold-550-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpy-5501-afaag-us
 

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Okay. But don't ever buy the RAIDMAX PSU. All raidmax units are of very poor/inferior quality. Avoid them like a plague. Not recommend for gaming PCs. Check out the following PSU Models. Can you afford them ?

SEASONIC Focus Plus GOLD, 550 Watts:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bkp323/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-550fx

EVGA Supernova G3, 550 Watts:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sMM323/evga-supernova-g3-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g3-0550

CORSAIR TXm gold, 550 Watts:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dDH48d/corsair-txm-gold-550w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020133-na

BE QUIET Straight power 11, 550 Watts:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3Vc48d/be-quiet-straight-power-11-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn281

Cooler Master MWE GOLD, 550 Watts. This unit is of average quality, but it's not that bad either.:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PxdxFT/cooler-master-mwe-gold-550-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpy-5501-afaag-us
Thanks for the list. My only issue now is that a gold PSU in my country (South Africa) costs more than my gpu lol
 

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YES....The V series of PSUs are of decent build quality. High-end that is. :)
Aah amazing, thanks for your help throughout the day! Just to clarify, since I lack much building knowledge, this PSU should be fine with the b450 tomahawk right? Just asking because I came across a PSU which only had 1 4pin cpu connect and apparently most MOBO's require 2x4 pin cpu connector?
 

Metal Messiah.

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For your MOBO, the power to the motherboard is provided through a 24-pin ATX power connector, and for the CPU, an 8-pin ATX 12 V power input is present. That V650 PSU from Cooler Master has one CPU 12V 4+4 connectors. So, I think you should be fine using this PSU model.

Btw, as a side note, if we focus on the power delivery on the B450 Tomahawk, then we have a total of six phases which is split into a 4+2 configuration. On the CPU section of the power delivery, each of the four true phases gets a pair of ON Semiconductor 4C029N MOSFETs. The SoC area, much like the CPU area, also uses ON MOSFETs.

It's a decent motherboard, slightly better than other B450 chipset models.

 

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