Zotac Unveils Its Huge, Acceptable, And Affordable GTX 1080 Ti Graphics Cards

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You are speaking about "Huge, Acceptable, And Affordable" ... without any prices listed .... hhhrrrr
 

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As a warm reminder, please keep your comments civil. We welcome criticism and feedback, but do ask that you keep it constructive. Otherwise, it's bandwagoning and doesn't serve to aid or direct per your interests.

In this particular instance, I'm sure the additional salient details are forthcoming, considering the reveal was just made. You will be made aware once we have the information. In the interim, remember that in article commentary and the forums, civility is compulsory - and this protects the quality of your experience here as well as safeguarding our ability to keep a clean, decent area reserved for discussion, troubleshooting, and speculation.

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As a warm reminder, please keep your comments civil. We welcome criticism and feedback, but do ask that you keep it constructive.

I perceive your heading as click bait because you state "affordable" without having any information on price. So you assume a low price, but it's still an assumption. So the constructive feedback is don't include reference to pricing unless it's based on fact, as in published prices.
 

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No sign of the "affordable" Zotac model here (UK), Scan just has the usual FE type Zotac, which is more expensive than other FEs, and hardly affordable since it's more than $900 equivalent. The $700 I keep reading is amusing. In the US, maybe; elsewhere, no.

I've also read numerous times on review sites that partner cards would have the same $700 RRP target. Um, nope; ignoring the annoying markup, the ones on Scan currently range from 730 UKP to 800 UKP, vs. the normal FEs which are 700 to 720 UKP (no stock of partner cards of course, all just pre-order).
 
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In this particular instance, I'm sure the additional salient details are forthcoming, considering the reveal was just made. You will be made aware once we have the information[/quotemsg]

No disrespect JP and the author but if someone puts "affordable" in a title of a article without a price for a product being discussed and/or shown, it doesn't matter if it was just announced today, last year, or an early announcement for something launching tomorrow. It's still a click-bait title without a price and I wish Tom's wouldn't do that.

Using click-bait titles to me will start to make any tech web site be viewed as a rumor mill site (saying no names...), which Tom's is not. Tom's shouldn't have a need to use such a low tactic as this is a respectable site.

On top of that, the word affordable with these high end cards (to me) means at least "cheaper than MSRP". Which is about the loosest form of affordable that I believe one person could use. With no price, how can we be sure it will be affordable and not be above MSRP? This would not only make the article a click-bait but also would make Tom's hardware site look like a fool.

The title would of been just fine if it said "Zotac Unveils Its Huge GTX 1080 Ti Graphics Cards" and make a second article later on about price. It's in line with the article and doesn't fool someone into thinking that you're going to be listing a price in it.

Now i wont say with a changed title, you wont see people complaining about not listing a price because you will see some still would (complainers have to complain about something...). Although if the title doesn't use words that hint at pricing like this one, those that complain wont have ground to stand on and the community can downvote and hide comments like these.

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The title of the article has been changed since this post, Please look at scolaner post down below.
 
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In this particular instance, I'm sure the additional salient details are forthcoming, considering the reveal was just made. You will be made aware once we have the information[/quotemsg]

No disrespect JP and the author but if someone puts "affordable" in a title of a article without a price for a product being discussed and/or shown, it doesn't matter if it was just announced today, last year, or an early announcement for something launching tomorrow. It's still click-bait title without a price and I wish Tom's wouldn't do that.
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I said the same thing, but my comment was deleted (i said the title is clickbait). Still don't understand how " "affordable" " is a product which cost 699U$D. But well.. its rare from Tom's Reviews doing this. Hope this is a simple misunderstood
 

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Regarding the headline: Niels was being cheeky. There are three cards, likely at three price points, the third one would be Zotac's most affordable option of the three. He wrote it, I let it through, so as the Editor that's ultimately that's on me. I apologize for the confusion. I can see how some people may interpret the word "affordable" as meaning something more exciting.

I changed the headline so there's no more confusion or rage.

Regarding the lack of pricing information: This happens all the time. Companies give us incomplete information for whatever reason (often because it doesn't exist), and we have to run with what we have. Sometimes we kill stories because of that--for example, a few times, we've gotten product announcements that have essentially been "(Company X) is announcing (widget), it's going to be the best (widget) of them all!" In cases like this Zotac thing, although there's no price information, the company at least gave some specs and features, so we felt like we had something to work with.

For newer readers, I want to make clear that we don't play the clickbait game, we don't muck about in the unsubstantiated rumor mill, and we work very hard to produce original, high-quality content. For older readers--we think you know this about us already, which is why you keep coming back.

Everybody have a great weekend. We'll let you know how much these cards costs when Zotac tells us.
 
[quotemsg=19411214,0,1725261]Regarding the headline: Niels was being cheeky. There are three cards, likely at three price points, the third one would be Zotac's most affordable option of the three. He wrote it, I let it through, so as the Editor that's ultimately that's on me. I apologize for the confusion. I can see how some people may interpret the word "affordable" as meaning something more exciting.

I changed the headline so there's no more confusion or rage.

Regarding the lack of pricing information: This happens all the time. Companies give us incomplete information for whatever reason (often because it doesn't exist), and we have to run with what we have. Sometimes we kill stories because of that--for example, a few times, we've gotten product announcements that have essentially been "[Company X] is announcing [widget], it's going to be the best [widget] of them all!" In cases like this Zotac thing, although there's no price information, the company at least gave some specs and features, so we felt like we had something to work with.

For newer readers, I want to make clear that we don't play the clickbait game, we don't muck about in the unsubstantiated rumor mill, and we work very hard to produce original, high-quality content. For older readers--we think you know this about us already, which is why you keep coming back.

Everybody have a great weekend. We'll let you know how much these cards costs when Zotac tells us.[/quotemsg]

Thanks for the change and it is the reason why we keep coming back. :) :hello:

Also I want apologize if i made my comment sound like if you guys always did this. I just re-read my comment and it felt like i was accusing you of doing this multiple times repeatedly (which you guys dont).

It's funny that you can type something out that was intended to have one meaning but you read it later and it feels like it has a different meaning (or an additional meaning on top of your original).
 

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[quotemsg=19412073,0,268765][quotemsg=19411214,0,1725261]Regarding the headline: Niels was being cheeky. There are three cards, likely at three price points, the third one would be Zotac's most affordable option of the three. He wrote it, I let it through, so as the Editor that's ultimately that's on me. I apologize for the confusion. I can see how some people may interpret the word "affordable" as meaning something more exciting.

I changed the headline so there's no more confusion or rage.

Regarding the lack of pricing information: This happens all the time. Companies give us incomplete information for whatever reason (often because it doesn't exist), and we have to run with what we have. Sometimes we kill stories because of that--for example, a few times, we've gotten product announcements that have essentially been "[Company X] is announcing [widget], it's going to be the best [widget] of them all!" In cases like this Zotac thing, although there's no price information, the company at least gave some specs and features, so we felt like we had something to work with.

For newer readers, I want to make clear that we don't play the clickbait game, we don't muck about in the unsubstantiated rumor mill, and we work very hard to produce original, high-quality content. For older readers--we think you know this about us already, which is why you keep coming back.

Everybody have a great weekend. We'll let you know how much these cards costs when Zotac tells us.[/quotemsg]

It's funny that you can type something out that was intended to have one meaning but you read it later and it feels like it has a different meaning (or an additional meaning on top of your original).[/quotemsg]

You mean like...a headline that doesn't land right? We know the feeling. ;)

 

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I have 2 DVI monitors (though I will be upgrading one at some point maybe this year), so welcome it. I'd still have to convert for the other.

As for the price, get a better job whiners. The price of the top end is $700 basically and has been around that for quite a while. Get over it, or get a better job. $700 isn't that much. Or I guess $500 is an expensive cpu too? If you can't afford to spend $100-1200 on your PC every few years (or whenever you upgrade) you need to move up from macdonalds/walmart to a real job. :) I'm surprised 1080ti wasn't priced at $800 (with after market cards up from that) since it is beating $1200 TitanX. Don't worry, if Vega is all it's supposed to be (assuming they get the launch right), prices will come down. Just wait for the black friday discounts and rollouts of the new versions of all cards (1060 on up getting GDDR5x, amd rolling out faster re-badges too).
 
[quotemsg=19412991,0,925801]As for the price, get a better job whiners.[/quotemsg]

The cheapest card they are offering here is $699. So I still stand by my statement. Their $699 "affordable" card is more expensive than other GTX 1080 ti's. Being more expensive than the competition does not equal affordable just because it is the cheapest you offer.

So no, I don't get the point.
 

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There are 4 cards in the 1080ti line

https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/GeForce-GTX-1080Ti/all


The GTX 1080 ti is $649

The GTX 1080 ti FE is $699

The GTX 1080 ti AMP is $799

The GTX 1080 ti AMP Extreme is TBD ($849?)
 
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