Question Are these parts good for new build?

[chadedgar]

Hello

I am building a new pc for gaming and to learn 3D softwares. Following are my parts I was thinking of buying, is it good? Can I reduce cost by little without compromising too much? Maybe I can go with 14500? I would prefer to stick with Intel, because in past when I went with AMD I had many issues with drivers etc.

Processor: i7-14700
AIO: CoolerMaster PL360 (Can I go with air cooling or even stock heatsink?)
MOBO: MSI Pro-Z790-S-WIFI
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 6400Mhz 32 x 2
M.2: Corsair MP600 Pro LPX 2TB x 2
GPU: Zotac 4080 AMP Super
PSU: MSI MPG A1000G
CASE: Lian Li Lancool II
Monitor: AW2723DF (Any 2k, 27 inch alternatives worth considering?)

 

[RodroX]

Hello

I am building a new pc for gaming and to learn 3D softwares. Following are my parts I was thinking of buying, is it good? Can I reduce cost by little without compromising too much? Maybe I can go with 14500? I would prefer to stick with Intel, because in past when I went with AMD I had many issues with drivers etc.

Processor: i7-14700
AIO: CoolerMaster PL360 (Can I go with air cooling or even stock heatsink?)
MOBO: MSI Pro-Z790-S-WIFI
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 6400Mhz 32 x 2
M.2: Corsair MP600 Pro LPX 2TB x 2
GPU: Zotac 4080 AMP Super
PSU: MSI MPG A1000G
CASE: Lian Li Lancool II
Monitor: AW2723DF (Any alternatives worth considering?)

I have never encountered any driver issues with AMD cpus, but I guess is posible to maybe have them.

Both Core i7 147000 and i5 14500 are very good options for gaming, as for 3D software the Core i5 will be missing a few cores (physical and logical) which, depending on the software/projects you use/do, may or not have a huge impact on your daily work.

As for air cooling you may get away with a dual tower unit with two fans (specially for the Core i5), as long as you get a good airflow case. Not of a fan of that particular case you wrote there, but you can check a review online to see how it goes airflow wise.

As for the monitor, not entirely sure what are you looking for but LG has lots of awesome displays options, as well as some samsung and msi ones.

 

[logainofhades]

At work I use cad based software, from Zeiss, and have had 0 driver related issues from any of my AMD or Intel systems. 🤷‍♂️

I would choose the i7, as it will hold up longer. Could you put your build into a PCPP list and share it? Makes it a bit easier to do a comparison for parts/pricing.

System Builder

pcpartpicker.com

 

[chadedgar]

At work I use cad based software, from Zeiss, and have had 0 driver related issues from any of my AMD or Intel systems. 🤷‍♂️

I would choose the i7, as it will hold up longer. Could you put your build into a PCPP list and share it? Makes it a bit easier to do a comparison for parts/pricing.

System Builder

pcpartpicker.com

Sorry, here is the list. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YNL6bL

 

[Lucky_SLS]

I would suggest something like this to save cost:

the 14700k requires an AIO for heavy loads.

If you want DDR5 option at increased cost:

mobo: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9B...tx-lga1700-motherboard-mag-z790-tomahawk-wifi

Rams: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xJ...-32-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-nd5u3264320irkde

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($389.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Alphacool Core Ocean T38 92.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($98.77 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($189.00 @ MSI)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 Blackout 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($116.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($999.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-1000 ATX 3.0 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ B&H)
Total: $2174.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-26 02:25 EDT-0400

 

[Why_Me]

Replace the 140mm exhaust fan that's included with this case with the 140mm ARGB fan down below if you want the full ARGB look.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700 2.1 GHz 20-Core Processor ($399.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool LT720 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO Z790-A MAX WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($239.00 @ MSI)
Memory: *G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *Zotac GAMING Trinity GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($999.99 @ Newegg)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: *SeaSonic FOCUS GX-1000 ATX 3.0 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ B&H)
Case Fan: *Lian Li UNI FAN SL V2 77.6 CFM 140 mm Fan ($34.98 @ Adorama)
Monitor: Dell AW2723DF 27.0" 2560 x 1440 240 Hz Monitor ($449.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2823.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-26 03:18 EDT-0400

Accessories for that case.
https://www.amazon.com/Lian-Li-Lancool-Controller-Black/dp/B0BNGMFN9R
https://www.amazon.com/Li-LIANLI-LAN216-2W-LANCOOL-Authorized/dp/B0C19193YD

A better look at those components.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-A-MAX-WIFI

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/deepcool-lt720-aio-cooler

https://www.predatorstorage.com/products/predator-gm7000-pcie-4-ssd.html

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TfR60pM5oU

 

[chadedgar]

I would suggest something like this to save cost:

the 14700k requires an AIO for heavy loads.

If you want DDR5 option at increased cost:

mobo: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9B...tx-lga1700-motherboard-mag-z790-tomahawk-wifi

Rams: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xJ...-32-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-nd5u3264320irkde

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($389.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Alphacool Core Ocean T38 92.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($98.77 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($189.00 @ MSI)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 Blackout 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($116.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($999.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-1000 ATX 3.0 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ B&H)
Total: $2174.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-26 02:25 EDT-0400

Thanks.

1. are you suggesting going with 14700k instead of 14700? I was choosing to go with 14700 so maybe I can save on cooler. The ram you are suggesting isn't available in India.
2. Also, in your list you suggested 3400Mhz ram, shouldn't I get minimum 6000Mhz ram?
3. Case you are suggesting is slightly big, it might fit under my desk but I am not sure. Is Lancool II bad? I will check what cases are available withing my requirement. (I need 3 slots for HDD, maybe I will get rid of one of my HDD and go with 2 slots).

Thanks for all the suggestions

Replace the 140mm exhaust fan that's included with this case with the 140mm ARGB fan down below if you want the full ARGB look.

PCPartPicker Part List

Thanks, I will check your suggestions and see what's available here in India.

 

[logainofhades]

Thanks.

1. are you suggesting going with 14700k instead of 14700? I was choosing to go with 14700 so maybe I can save on cooler. The ram you are suggesting isn't available in India.
2. Also, in your list you suggested 3400Mhz ram, shouldn't I get minimum 6000Mhz ram?
3. Case you are suggesting is slightly big, it might fit under my desk but I am not sure. Is Lancool II bad? I will check what cases are available withing my requirement. (I need 3 slots for HDD, maybe I will get rid of one of my HDD and go with 2 slots).

Thanks for all the suggestions


Thanks, I will check your suggestions and see what's available here in India.

6000 speeds are DDR5 only. The ram they listed is DDR4. There is little performance difference between the two, due to high latency of ddr5 vs ddr4. Going DDR4 does save money, where as DDR5 has future support. I wouldn't use a HDD, unless you are looking at some really high capacity drives.
I looked at your system, and its price, and came up with this for a bit less. Due to availablity in India, this may not work for you though.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($389.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool LS720 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($106.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z790 Riptide WiFi ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($214.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($123.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($1599.99 @ ASUS)
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case ($75.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-1000 ATX 3.0 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: Dell AW2723DF 27.0" 2560 x 1440 240 Hz Monitor ($449.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $3330.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-26 08:15 EDT-0400

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Here is a complete partlist from MD Computers:

https://mdcomputers.in/build_your_pc/build_picker/538713

Total Price: Rs. 220,769/-

Processor (CPU)		Intel Core i7-14700K Proc...	BX8071514700K		39,500	39,500
Cooling System (CPU Cooler)		Deepcool LS720S Zero Dark...	R-LS720-BKNNMM-G-1		8,999	8,999
Motherboard		MSI Pro B760M-A WIFI DDR4...	PRO-B760M-A-WIFI-DDR4	1	14,720	14,720
Memory (RAM)		Corsair Vengeance LPX 64G...	CMK64GX4M2D3600C18		13,350	13,350
Solid State Drive (M.2 SSD)		Adata XPG Gammix S70 Blad...	AGAMMIXS70B-2T-CS		12,850	12,850
Solid State Drive (SATA SSD)	Choose Solid State Drive (SATA SSD)
Hard Disk Drive (Internal HDD)	Choose Hard Disk Drive (Internal HDD)
Graphics Card (GPU/VGA)		Zotac RTX 4080 Super Trin...	ZT-D40820D-10P	1	109,000	109,000
Power Supply Unit (SMPS/PSU)		Thermaltake Toughpower GF...	PS-TPD-1050FNFAGD-H	1	13,700	13,700
Cabinet (Case)		MSI MAG PANO M100R PZ ARG...	MAG-PANO-M100R-PZ	1	8,650	8,650

AMD 7900X3D based build:

https://mdcomputers.in/build_your_pc/build_picker/538724

Total Price: Rs. 221,659/-

Processor (CPU)		AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D Proce...	100-100000909W0F		41,120	41,120
Cooling System (CPU Cooler)		Deepcool Gammaxx AG620 BK...	R-AG620-BKANMN-G-2		4,649	4,649
Motherboard		Asus Prime B650M-A WIFI I...	PRIME-B650M-A-WIFI-II	1	18,090	18,090
Memory (RAM)		G.Skill Flare X5 Series 6...	F5-6000J3040G32GX2-FX5		20,240	20,240
Solid State Drive (M.2 SSD)		Adata XPG Gammix S70 Blad...	AGAMMIXS70B-2T-CS		12,850	12,850
Solid State Drive (SATA SSD)	Choose Solid State Drive (SATA SSD)
Hard Disk Drive (Internal HDD)	Choose Hard Disk Drive (Internal HDD)
Graphics Card (GPU/VGA)		Zotac RTX 4080 Super Trin...	ZT-D40820D-10P	1	109,000	109,000
Power Supply Unit (SMPS/PSU)		Thermaltake Toughpower GF...	PS-TPD-0850FNFAGD-H	1	10,750	10,750
Cabinet (Case)		Lian Li Lancool 205M Mesh...	G99-OE744MX-IN	1	4,960	4,960

Monitor: https://www.primeabgb.com/online-pr...ate-frameless-qhd-ips-panel-hdmi-displayport/

https://www.vedantcomputers.com/pc-...7gn800-b-27-inch-qhd-ips-144hz-gaming-monitor

https://www.vedantcomputers.com/pc-...i-g321q-32-inch-ips-170hz-wqhd-gaming-monitor

 

[chadedgar]

Here is a complete partlist from MD Computers:

https://mdcomputers.in/build_your_pc/build_picker/538713

Total Price: Rs. 220,769/-

Thanks, I will go with this. I will just go with Corsair 2500D Airflow case, because I need to use at least 2 HDDs out of 3. Otherwise an ATX case.

Recently I saw several people complaining that their Adata M.2 drives becoming unusable too early, should I go with corsair/kingston instead?

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Thanks, I will go with this. I will just go with Corsair 2500D Airflow case, because I need to use at least 2 HDDs out of 3. Otherwise an ATX case.

Recently I saw several people complaining that their Adata M.2 drives becoming unusable too early, should I go with corsair/kingston instead?

Just have the latest firmware for your SSD and you should be good. The S70 blade is a well reviewed SSD model.

if you are fine with mATX, the Lancool 205 mesh is a bang for buck case. I have the same case and is a great budget option! pics in my sig.

 

[chadedgar]

Just have the latest firmware for your SSD and you should be good. The S70 blade is a well reviewed SSD model.

if you are fine with mATX, the Lancool 205 mesh is a bang for buck case. I have the same case and is a great budget option! pics in my sig.

Sorry, I had few more questions after checking PRO-B760M-A-WIFI details.

1. From what I read, I can't overclock if I don't have z790 chipset motherboard, is that correct? Then I should just go for 14700 instead? (Maybe not because 14700k still has better base clock speed)
2. On motherboard page it says, if I use m.2 slot, then SATA8 slot will be unavailable. And what I understood from it is that if I use m.2 slot then I can only have 2 more SSD/HDD. Is that correct?

SATA8 will be unavailable when installing M.2 SATA SSD in the M2_2 slot.

Right now I have 256GB SSD for OS, 4TB and 1TB HDD with lots of data on it. Additional 500GB HDD that I was willing to not use anymore after upgrade. I can also get rid of 256GB SSD as my OS will be on M.2 drive. I just wanted to confirm if I will be able to use the 2 HDDs after using M.2 slot.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

1. You cannot OC the 14700. So yes, get the 14700k and use it with the stock settings.

2. The mobo has 4 x sata 6gbps slots. 1 of them will be disabled if the M2_2 is used. You can still use 3 sata devices.