Question G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR5-7200Mhz

[Elroy3]

Hi,

Im about asembling a new rig. Among other things it contains a I7 14700K, ASUS Rog Strix Z790-H and G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR5-7200 Mhz-CL34 (2 x 16GB) RAM.

Question is: Can the system run flawless "out of the box" or will there be blue- or black screen, as I read in some other forums? And no, I will not go into overclocking. It is just plug and play with no further ado.

Thanks, Elroy

 

[Eximo]

DDR5 7200 is a significant overclock, but should be okay. You need only configure the XMP memory profile.

14700K out of the box may also be overclocked by the motherboard. Best to load the latest BIOS which should bring it back to Intel spec. Motherboard may not support the 14700K out of the box and a CPUless BIOS Flashback may be needed before you can do anything. (If you want out of the box. you can look at 13th gen CPUs)

CPU will not come with a cooler.

 

[Elroy3]

Thanks for a very quick respons,

I always download latest BIOS before doing anything else (if possible) And I have to look into how to configure XMP memory profile, as it has been a while since I have been building a rig.

And what goes for the i7 1400K, I think is a 13th gen, but Im not sure. Yeah, it comes without a cooler, the CPU - therefore I bought a Noctua NH-U12A

 

[Eximo]

i7 - 14 700 k
14th gen, k equals unlocked, 700 is basically just telling you where it falls in the stack though it is the only class of chip under the i7 brand.

Now admittedly there isn't much difference between 13th and 14th gen, but the BIOS still has to know about it for proper operation. Luckily your motherboard can be flashed without the CPU installed.

[Motherboard] How to use USB BIOS FlashBack™? | Official Support | ASUS USA

 

[Elroy3]

Thanks for your reply,

Must look into XMP configuration and how to use USB BIOS Flashback.

Am I right to assume, that bottomline is, that you think its ok for me to go with the 7200Mhz G.Skill, and I dont have to downgrade them, in order to get a flawless rig - without black screen or other unpredictability things will happen?

So, just flash BIOS and configure XMP

 

[CountMike]

So, just flash BIOS and configure XMP

And hope for best, 6000 is still a "sweet spot", above it with rapidly diminishing results overall.

 

[Elroy3]

Hi,

When you put it that way, I go for the G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5-6000Mhz. I like sweet spots 😎

Elroy

 

[35below0]

Hi,

When you put it that way, I go for the G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5-6000Mhz. I like sweet spots 😎

Elroy

Not so fast. The combination of speed and latency is what matters most. Aim for a CL28 or CL30 RAM kit. Th e7200 Mhz CL34 kit you originaly selected is no slouch and if it's compatible you should have no problems running it.

6000 Mhz uses XMP and much as 7200 Mhz does, so there's no direct benefit. If you truly want to run stock speeds, you can buy a 4800Mhz kit, OR don't enable XMP so your 7200 Mhz kit will run at 4800 Mhz (JEDEC)

Use this to select compatible RAM: https://www.gskill.com/configurator

For gaming, you want low latency. If you're not gaming, buy CL40 or higher. They're cheaper.

The only disadvantage to higher speed/low latency RAM is that it can sometimes increase boot times, even up to more than a minute. This is more or less a lottery and depends on motherboard, RAM, and probably the whims of forgotten evil gods of evil.
Without XMP boot times are not going to exceed 10-20 seconds depending on hardware. XMP does enable faster memory and greater performance, so overall it's worth it. Afterall that's what you're paying for when buying anything other than 4800 Mhz kits.

 

[Elroy3]

Well, I slow down a bit. Guess its not as simple as I thought it would be -

It's like a jungle sometimes
It makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under

Hmmm, what to do, what to pick?

If I go with your suggestion 35below0, I have two possible choises, as I see it.

Either this: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5-5600 - 32GB (2 x 16) - CL28 (28-34-34-89)

Or this: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5-6000Mhz - 32GB (2 x 16) - CL30 (30-38-38-96)

But just a minute ago, I stumbled upon this thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PcBuildHelp/comments/17v5nv0/14900k_on_a_z790_motherboard_need_to_choose_ram/

I can see its a 14900K they are talking about - but the MB are same model as the one I go for (Z790).

A bit confused now, I must say.

Shall pick one tomorrow at the latest, so I can have it home for Pentecost.

Which one would you go for if you were me?

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[35below0]

Which one would you go for if you were me?

I am biased towards Ripjaws. But price is also important.
Another thing is RAM stick height. What CPU cooler are you going with?
Some like the Scythe Fuma and Mugen have no problem with tall RAM sticks, but other coolers may not have the clearance.
You can check with the cooler manufacturer.

You also need to pay attention to case clearance. Will the cooler fit inside the case, etc.

Or are you going liquid? It's not needed for the 14700K.

Why don't you post full specs, or full build.

Between those two RAM kits, the 6000 Mhz is the tried and true, the CL28 is newer and slightly faster for gaming. Gaming loves low latency so that's what i'd go with.

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/374/1652689742/F5-5600J2834F16GX2-TZ5RS-F5-5600J2834F16GA2-TZ5RS

F5-5600J2834F16GX2-TZ5RK F5-5600J2834F16GA2-TZ5RK - Overview - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

Trident Z5 RGB series DDR5 memory is designed for ultra-high performance on DDR5 platforms. Featuring a sleek and streamlined aluminum heatspreader design, available in metallic silver, matte black, or matte white, the Trident Z5 RGB series DDR5 DRAM memory is the ideal choice to build a...

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https://www.gskill.com/product/165/377/1652689267/F5-5600J2834F16GX2-RS5K-F5-5600J2834F16GA2-RS5K

F5-5600J2834F16GX2-RS5W F5-5600J2834F16GA2-RS5W - Overview - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

Ripjaws S5 is a performance DDR5 DRAM memory series made with hand-screened memory ICs that passed G.SKILL rigorous validation tests. Each Ripjaws S5 memory kit strikes an ideal balance between performance, compatibility, and stability and is available in matte black or matte white aluminum...

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RAM Configurator - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

Find compatible memory kits for your motherboard. Just select the motherboard from the dropdown list and click on Search for a list of compatible G.SKILL memory kits.

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All of these are low latency but the 5200 Mhz kits are a little bit slower overall.
If you want faster kits, latency will be lower. It's a trade-off.

 

[Elroy3]

No problemo, here are the full build, which I go for:

Intel Core i7-14700K Raptor Lake
ASUS Rog Strix Z790-H
Noctua NH-U12A
ASUS GeForce RTX Ti Dual OC - 8GB GDDR6
Samsung 980 Pro SSD - 2TB
G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5-6000Mhz - 32GB (2 x 16) - CL 30
Corsair RM850x
Lian Li Lancool II Mesh Preformance
27" Dell G2724D
Win 11 pro - 64 bit

No liquid

 

[35below0]

The NH-D15 and the NH-U12A are close in price and performance. D15 has larger fans and is overall just freaking huge. Either is fine so it's up to you.

Alternatively, you have the Scythe Mugen 6 Dual.
Noctuas are premium and feel that way but i've yet to hear a whisper about Scythe not being good.

Personally, i would buy the best and most expensive as long as it's justified. Notcua is your best pick.


There are rumors the next gen is going to be a huge improvement in price/performance, so your 4060 Ti may not be with you very long.
That's not a bad thing. You will be able to sell it if you see a nice new GPU from nvidia, AMD or Intel around Christmas or Easter.


Depending on the price of the Corsair RMx, the SeaSonic FOCUS GX-1000 ATX 3.0 or SeaSonic VERTEX GX-1000 might be a good idea. The extra watts will come in handy if you buy a thirsty GPU in the future.
There's not much in it between quality 850w and 1000w PSUs though, so i wouldn't worry about this too much.


Nothing esle to say. That's a sweet build.

 

[Elroy3]

Yeah, the Noctua NH-U12A is a very nice cooler - and silent too. Its my all time favorite . What goes for gfx Im aware of the next gen cards. Among them ex the innovative ASUS card which is equipped with a M.2 NVMe drive.

Next-gen graphics meets next-gen storage: introducing the ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 4060 Ti SSD - Edge Up

Get a cooling upgrade for your high-performance NVMe drive by installing it on the ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 4060 Ti SSD graphics card.

edgeup.asus.com

But as you write Ill just sell the ASUS GeForce RTX Ti Dual OC, if I see a new and better one.

I got a very good deal on the Corsair RMx, so Ill just stick with that, for the time beeing.

So all in all I think I got myself a very nice machine, with this build

Thanks for the help and input(s)

Elroy