I agree with you here...
but the issue is a bit more complex. During the specification process it should have been clear to the people involved that the 12VHPWR connector will be put in PC cases with large GPUs and very little space to the side panel. Therefore the cables need to be bent...
My2cents: A safety margin of 100% might be ok if the connector is used in an aligned/straight position and if you can guarantee a controlled e.g. robotic production e.g. crimping
But look at the picures of the adapter: They are soldered by hand - there you go safety margin!
They are not at all...
Most pictures show that the area around the socket melts. The conclusion is that the socket gets too hot.
For me as an electrical engineer there is one main reason how this can happen. The contact resistance is too high resulting in temperatures which gets too high.
Imho the most probable causes...
You are totally right and everything makes sense - let´s see if I will throw away 2 regular fans and buy 5 high speed :vendredi:
Do you have all your fans controlled by UEFI? Or do you use a tool like FanControl?
It provides you with so many different options: E.g. You can create a fan curve...
I would appreciate this a lot, thanks.
Very reasonabel: I have already 2 Silent Wings 3 - and I hessitate to mix it with high speed fans because. But let´s see with your RPMs later and I will decide.
Thanks a lot.
The details are interesting. And as I assumed you limit the high speed version to 65% and 75% because they get too noisy.
Here is a graph PWM% / RPM for silent wings 3 high speed. If I am correct your fans never go over 1000RPM which is still in the specs of the non high speed version limit...
Thank you for your ideas:
Unfortunately the Design 7 compact can have only 120mm fans at back and bottom - the rest will be 140 mm (y)
Do you have any advantages with the high speed version for your fans? Is it not dificult to configure a quiet fan curve for non gaming operation? I looked into...
Intended for next build: Fractal Design 7 Compact (already here)
MSI Z690 Tomahawk DDR4 Wifi
12700K, 32 GB 3600 Mhz, 2 NVME PCIe SSDs 1 TB 970 Evo Plus, 3080
Be quiet Dark Rock 4 cooler
Silent Wing 3 Fans: Back 120mm, Top Rear 140mm, Front 2 x 140mm
Does it make sense to add another 120mm...
Sounds very reasonable.
Therefore, I might stick with an 850W PSU for now and will buy a new one in case I need it for a GPU RTX 4080 or 4090 (depending on price)
Thanks for your advice: Yes for my build in progress an 850W would be enough (RTX 3080) andeven for an RTX 4080- just wanted to avoid having have to buy a new PSU in case I can will be able to afford the RTX 4090 :)
Corsairs Rmx 850 2021 or 1000 HX (I think already a few years old) do not have...
I am in the middle of a build (12700K) and I intend to put an RTX 4090 for VR into it - as soon as available.
I prefer to have a semipassiv PSU which should be not audible at all.
Do you think I should go already for a 1000W PSU or will 850W be enough?
If 1000W I intend to take the Corsair...
Thank you very much for the explanation: I will experiment with your suggestions in case my build will not be quiet enough:
To avoid this, my approach is to not produce noise at the source. This will prevent that I have to look at other more cumbersome possibilites to kill noise
With a Dark...
Reasonable question: I need 8 P Cores 1-2 days every 14 days. For these tasks I will set no power limit for the CPU. Otherwise I need the PC to be very quiet - besides 4K gaming and VR :)
You are completely right. Therefore I will buy an insulated case, Dark Rock 4, be quiet silent wings 3...
Thank you for this demonstration - great tool.
I think a 10850k has PL1, PL2 125W/250W.
If this CPU is clamped to 100W I expect you to loose around 20-25% in e,g, Cinebench only (close to zero loss in single)- If you have an air cooler and a good fan curve you will notice very much reduced...