£2000 New Build

[alan_3833]

Approximate Purchase Date: This Month

Budget Range: Up to £2000

System Usage: Gaming, Web Developer, Streaming, Music, Internet.

Are you buying a monitor: Not sure

Parts to Upgrade: All

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Location: UK

Monitor Resolution:1920 x 1080

Additional Comments: Looking for a mini ITX build

Why Are You Upgrading: Had my current PC since 2014 and is starting to show its age, Battlefield 1 is always showing the slow graphics icon warning. COH2 has trouble keeping up with 4v4. Low FPS in newer games even with low settings.

Initial Ideas:

Will this PC last for 4/5 years and be able to play most games at 60fps?

Do any of the parts look like they will not fit inside the case together?

Any improvements for the build?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (£287.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H75 54 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (Purchased For £0.00)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX X470-I GAMING Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (£177.97 @ More Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£123.59 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Kingston - A400 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For £0.00)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 2 TB 2.5" 5400RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For £0.00)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For £0.00)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS Video Card (£774.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 500 Mini ITX Desktop Case (£54.95 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£100.97 @ More Computers)
Monitor: Samsung - S24E510C 23.6" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor (Purchased For £0.00)
Monitor: *Samsung - U28E590D 28.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor (£261.00 @ Amazon UK)
Keyboard: Corsair - K30 Wired Gaming Keyboard (Purchased For £0.00)
Mouse: Mad Catz - R.A.T. M Bluetooth Wireless Laser Mouse (Purchased For £0.00)
Total: £1781.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-16 18:04 GMT+0000

 

[alan_3833]

So, have you decided against an ITX build OP?

If I am going for AMD then I will have to increase the size of the Case but if I choose Intel then I think I will try an ITX build. I am still deciding if I go for AMD or Intel. From what I have read the Intel chip does better at the moment on most tests than AMD due to the majority of tests not utilising all of the AMD cores however the AMD may be better in the long run as software improves to use the AMD processor to its full potential, I may be wrong and miss interpreted what I have been reading tho.

At the moment my screen is wall mounted due to limited space in my house so that limits my screen options, it may need to be updated later when I have a desk to put it on.

I will make sure to keep the PSU between 650 - 750

 

[SgtScream]

It depends on the resolution and the games you play. The goal is to ensure the graphics card is able to be fully utilized. I allways tell people if you're running 1080p or lower, you'll need Intel's higher IPC/boost clocks to achieve this. However if the resolution is 1440p or higher, then the CPU matters less because the GPU becomes a limiting factor. Therefore I choose AMD to save money to allocate where it counts, AKA the graphics card. My suggestion no matter if you go with team red or blue is the focus G mini. It's just the right size for high end gear for a smaller case and will provide the best air flow.

 

[alan_3833]

Thanks for the clarification between Intel and AMD. I have had another look at my current build and compiled a list of all the items suggested by you guys and what I currently have. A few items I have set to be using the 'parametric filter' the memory, graphics card and a new monitor.

For reference here is a link to my current setup. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZXDtsZ

What do you guys think of the below Upgrades?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (£287.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H75 54 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (Purchased For £0.00)
Motherboard: MSI - B450M MORTAR Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£87.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: *Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£115.19 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Kingston - A400 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For £0.00)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 2 TB 2.5" 5400RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For £0.00)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For £0.00)
Video Card: *Palit - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GamingPro Video Card (£999.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G Mini (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£44.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£100.97 @ More Computers)
Optical Drive: Pioneer - BDC-207DBK Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For £0.00)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link - TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter (Purchased For £0.00)
Monitor: Samsung - S24E510C 23.6" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor (Purchased For £0.00)
Monitor: *Samsung - U28E590D 28.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor (£261.39 @ Amazon UK)
Keyboard: Corsair - K30 Wired Gaming Keyboard (Purchased For £0.00)
Mouse: Mad Catz - R.A.T. M Bluetooth Wireless Laser Mouse (Purchased For £0.00)
Total: £1898.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-15 12:50 GMT+0000

 

[Wer3badatgames]

You know I have to say finding parts for you that are in £ while i live in the US is pretty freaking hard but I did find a build i think you might like. Now in your original post I know you said no to sli or crossfire however the card your looking after the 2080 comes with a hefty price. If you wanna come close to its performance without spending as much using sli or crossfire can save you TONS of money and allow you to get some pretty nice peripherals. Below I have linked a complete build case and all as well as a separate link on newegg for the monitor as pcpartpicker did not have it listed.

Overall this build replaces your motherboard with the x470 chipset that takes full advantage of the ryzen7 2700x overall performance. The motherboard has 2 m.2 slots giving you the ability to have a 250gb boot drive and a 1tb storage and i have also included a 3tb WD black drive connected via sata. The dual graphics cards give you slightly more stream proccesors than the 2080 as well as giving you 5gb more graphics memory. And to top it all off the monitor is current deal on newegg for a pretty decent 4k monitor which with your budget you can get 2 of and there is a really nice cherry switch corsair motherboard along with its counterpart a 8000dpi mouse also from corsair. If you wanna take away a monitor you can fit in a nice addition of some noctua fans to replace the stock ones on the case.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NYK6LJ
https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824112035

This is the best i can find with your budget and of course feel free to make changes but i do really stress you get that x470 chipset in your motherboard. The b450 is made for the previous generation of amd ryzen chips while the x470 is made for the 2nd generation which is what the 2700x is. This means better speeds, power management, and heat management while being able to maintain that turbo speed.

 

[alan_3833]

You know I have to say finding parts for you that are in £ while i live in the US is pretty freaking hard but I did find a build i think you might like.

Sorry about that 😉 can you not just change the country on PC partpicker to UK.

Thanks for the new spec.

My current build which has a https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/XXg323/xfx-video-card-r9280atdbd GPU has crossfire but I have never looked at using it because I heard it can be an issue and wasnt supported widely by games. Has this changed?

How old is the msi-radeon-rx-580 GPU? Are there newer ones that support crossfire?

I cant see any monitors selected in that list?

 

[Wer3badatgames]

Naw dude crossfire is fine and any other rx580 definately supports it. Just make sure when you buy them you get 2 that are identical. (helps with syncing and all that shnaz) So if you wanna swap out the graphics card for a different one just look up some rx580 cards. I suggest sapphire and asus for manufacturers as they make the most efficient ones. I just went with the msi as it seemed you were going for some budget options. That and it made the budget able to let you get those 4k monitors i linked you too through the newegg link. They were Sceptre 4k monitors

 

[g-unit1111]

You know I have to say finding parts for you that are in £ while i live in the US is pretty freaking hard but I did find a build i think you might like.

No, no it isn't. There's PC Part Picker and there's also the international stores thread at the very top of this forum.

 

[USAFRet]

Also on another note (im sorry i forgot to mention it)
In comparison between the two a Samsung 860 EVO 2.5'' SSD 500gb draws 2.2w~ while the Samsung 970 EVO m.2 2280 500gb draws 30mw idle however the instant it kicks into action its minimum power draw is 5.7w with a maximum of 10w in burst mode. So yes m.2 does draw more power overall then its predecessors by anywhere from twice to five times as much.

"5 times as much"...of a very small number.

The 5 (or 10 burst) watts consumed with a typical SSD is barely a rounding error in relation to the whole PC power consumption.

We should never be that close to the edge of power consumption where the choice of SSD is make or break.

 

[mossberg]

You know I have to say finding parts for you that are in £ while i live in the US is pretty freaking hard but I did find a build i think you might like.

Yea going to PCPP UK is such a challenge, especially when the OP has a PCPP UK link to start with.

How do you even function?

 

[Rogue Leader]

My god this thread is a mess

Honestly what im seeing so far looks great but to answer your question on the 750w power supply. Yes it is very neccesary. Where switching to amd can give you heck amounts of bang for your buck it draws a crap ton more power. Not to mention your throwing the 2080 into the mix and a m.2 sata both of which draw more power than most other conventional means. (btw nice touch with adding the m.2 i was gonna suggest one but didnt know if you knew how to use it). However only thing i think would be better is trying to find a board with the x470 chipset. the b450 is nice but the x470 is really made to take advantage of those newer ryzen chips and you'll squeeze a little more power out of that than the b450 chipset.....

750w is absurd for that build. AMD Ryzen does not "draw a crap ton more power" power consumption is competitive with Intel in this respect. Their old processors (FX) did have power issues. Also the 2080ti does not crush the PSU like Vega does. I should know I am running a Ryzen system with Vega 64 LC card, I use a 750w PSU, but thats also because my card draws 330w average under load. The 2080 barely pulls down 225w in a torture test.

M.2 drives only pull down 5w more power in a burst than regular SATA drives and pull down significantly LESS power than a conventional hard drive (that can draw nearly 60w), in the grand scheme of things 5w is a rounding error.

B450 and X470 are BOTH designed for the newest Ryzen Chips, however X470 boards are generally beefier and allow for more overclocking.

The dual graphics cards give you slightly more stream proccesors than the 2080 as well as giving you 5gb more graphics memory........

No it doesn't. First off 2 completely different architectures "stream processors" don't exist on one as it does the other. And the memory is not combined in crossfire it is mirrored. 2 8gb RX 580's give you 8gb of VRAM.

Crossfire sucks, yes in theory it can give you more FPS, in practice you're met with incompatibility, micro stuttering, and many other issues. Building around Crossfire is a waste of time.

The b450 is made for the previous generation of amd ryzen chips while the x470 is made for the 2nd generation which is what the 2700x is. This means better speeds, power management, and heat management while being able to maintain that turbo speed.

No it's not. B450 and X470 are the same Generation. X470 is a better overclocker because the boards are beefier, it also has a few extra features. Otherwise there is little difference.

Naw dude crossfire is fine and any other rx580 definately supports it. Just make sure when you buy them you get 2 that are identical. (helps with syncing and all that shnaz) So if you wanna swap out the graphics card for a different one just look up some rx580 cards. I suggest sapphire and asus for manufacturers as they make the most efficient ones. I just went with the msi as it seemed you were going for some budget options.

You want to get 2 identical RX 580's because if one is a lower clock rate both will run at that clock rate. if they aren't both RX580's Crossfire won't even work. It doesn't matter Crossfire is awful. Sapphire and ASUS don't make RX580's that are any more efficient than the other manufacturers, in fact most of their products are largely similar. You are paying for different cooling solutions and OC settings for the most part.

And back to power supplies 750w is NOT ENOUGH for that build with 2 crossfired RX 580's. Aside from this build being 1000 miles from his original ask.


OP While I love Ryzen (check out my build) I suggest rewinding this thread backwards and looking at what some others have suggested for you.

 

[SgtScream]

I chose the 750w because of the deal/price and how much the RTX 2080 draws and potential overclocking. My goal was to ensure when the system is under full load, that the PSU efficiency is met by not exceeding 50% PSU load. Yes it is overkill but I often times do this purposely because you never know what graphics card the end user will want to upgrade to in the future as well as other internal components. Deciding to upgrade your system, realizing your PSU isn't powerful enough isn't something I enjoy. But yes it is overkill but purposely done so, but not ridiculously given my reasoning.

 

[Rogue Leader]

I chose the 750w because of the deal/price and how much the RTX 2080 draws and potential overclocking. My goal was to ensure when the system is under full load, that the PSU efficiency is met by not exceeding 50% PSU load. Yes it is overkill but I often times do this purposely because you never know what graphics card the end user will want to upgrade to in the future as well as other internal components. Deciding to upgrade your system, realizing your PSU isn't powerful enough isn't something I enjoy. But yes it is overkill but purposely done so, but not ridiculously given my reasoning.

The wattage was less the reason for my protest than the reasoning. What you are describing is sound, I don't agree with it, but its sound. The exaggeration and other points were the main issue, and not made by you.

 

[Rogue Leader]

You are right that the thread ... has got a bit messy, mainly because I have ended up with more questions than answers. I think if I was going to go for a ITX build it would the the first one SgtScream suggested.

I am however still deciding if I go for Intel and an ITX build or I stay with AMD as they have done me no wrong for 5 years. Just upgrade the parts I have and reduce the size of the case slightly.

I also agree over crossfire the things I have read about it sound like it was a good idea but just not practical enough for software to support it.

Would you have any advice on this build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v87k7W which is upgrading the older parts of my current machine?

Thanks in advance

Thats a good build, but I question the choice of case. If you're going MiniITX may as well get a smaller case to take advantage of the small board. something like the Fractal Design Core series. Otherwise thats a solid combination.

 

[alan_3833]

Thats a good build, but I question the choice of case. If you're going MiniITX may as well get a smaller case to take advantage of the small board. something like the Fractal Design Core series. Otherwise thats a solid combination.

According to pcpartpicker there are no MiniITX cases that would fit with the spec of the other items unless I am being blind....

 

[Wer3badatgames]

Your not being blind. I just unchecked the "Enable Compatibility Filter" to select one of the Fractal Core Cases to see what the compatibility issue is, and id have to agree with pcpartpicker on this, its your liquid cooler. Pcpartpicker doesnt think it will fit without use of an adapter or something. I think youll have problems with it due to the hoses as they are pretty long for the small form factor case of the core series at least with the 1000 and 1100. Youd possibly run into kinking the hoses and not having any flow. However if you use the stock cooler for the cpu everything should fit fine. And I can atest to the stock cooler, in fact id almost say there really is nothing that quite replaces its power other than the AIO Liquid Coolers. However I would also have to agree with Rogue Leader the fractal design core series are some pretty good mini itx cases. As long as you upgrade the stock fans on the pc case with some high CFM fans you should be good no matter what your doing.

 

[logainofhades]

Your not being blind. I just unchecked the "Enable Compatibility Filter" to select one of the Fractal Core Cases to see what the compatibility issue is, and id have to agree with pcpartpicker on this, its your liquid cooler. Pcpartpicker doesnt think it will fit without use of an adapter or something. I think youll have problems with it due to the hoses as they are pretty long for the small form factor case of the core series at least with the 1000 and 1100. Youd possibly run into kinking the hoses and not having any flow. However if you use the stock cooler for the cpu everything should fit fine. And I can atest to the stock cooler, in fact id almost say there really is nothing that quite replaces its power other than the AIO Liquid Coolers. However I would also have to agree with Rogue Leader the fractal design core series are some pretty good mini itx cases. As long as you upgrade the stock fans on the pc case with some high CFM fans you should be good no matter what your doing.

The cooler is not the problem here. That is in regards to the socket on the motherboard, and you can get the needed bracket from Corsair. That DVD drive, and graphics card, are what is really limiting your Mini-ITX case choices. Optical drives are more of a rarity these days, and that card is too thick for most cases. Just changing the card, to a less expensive EVGA, opens up some possibilities. Ditching that drive really opens up the possibilities. Personally, I would recommend getting an external drive.

Changed the GPU, and ditched the DVD drive.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (£287.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H75 54 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (Purchased For £0.00)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX X470-I GAMING Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (£177.97 @ More Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£123.59 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Kingston - A400 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For £0.00)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 2 TB 2.5" 5400RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For £0.00)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For £0.00)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card (£769.97 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design - Define Nano S Mini ITX Desktop Case (£62.48 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£100.97 @ More Computers)
Monitor: Samsung - S24E510C 23.6" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor (Purchased For £0.00)
Monitor: *Samsung - U28E590D 28.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor (£261.39 @ Amazon UK)
Keyboard: Corsair - K30 Wired Gaming Keyboard (Purchased For £0.00)
Mouse: Mad Catz - R.A.T. M Bluetooth Wireless Laser Mouse (Purchased For £0.00)
Total: £1784.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-16 14:41 GMT+0000

Just for example

 

[Rogue Leader]

Your not being blind. I just unchecked the "Enable Compatibility Filter" to select one of the Fractal Core Cases to see what the compatibility issue is, and id have to agree with pcpartpicker on this, its your liquid cooler. Pcpartpicker doesnt think it will fit without use of an adapter or something. I think youll have problems with it due to the hoses as they are pretty long for the small form factor case of the core series at least with the 1000 and 1100. Youd possibly run into kinking the hoses and not having any flow. However if you use the stock cooler for the cpu everything should fit fine. And I can atest to the stock cooler, in fact id almost say there really is nothing that quite replaces its power other than the AIO Liquid Coolers. However I would also have to agree with Rogue Leader the fractal design core series are some pretty good mini itx cases. As long as you upgrade the stock fans on the pc case with some high CFM fans you should be good no matter what your doing.

The Core 500 would be the case he wants, pcpp filter isn't perfect but in this case it got it right, because the GPU is 327mm long and the case will only accept a GPU of 310mm. IMO then if you're looking for a small build get a different GPU, maybe one with dual fans such as the MSI RTX 2080 VENTUS which is only 268mm.

It has nothing to do with his liquid cooler, It doesn't require some sort of adapter (that PCPP note is referring to the socket not where the cooling radiator mounts). The hoses do not nor will they ever kink, the AIO is solidly filled with liquid, and the hoses are semi rigid, you'd need to pinch them with a pair of pliers.

The rear of the Core 500 (and the other core cases) has a 120/140mm fan mount, which you could easily mount the liquid cooler he has to. It also has TWO 120/140 mm mounts at the top of the case, that would be an even better spot as it leaves the rear of the case open for additional cooling while pushing the CPU's heat out its natural exit.

 

[logainofhades]

Yea, the core 500 would work, with just a GPU change, as I have above, but there are so many more options, removing the DVD drive too, unless the OP is dead set on Fractal.

 

[moek]

build recommendation above seems solid, but one advice I have got for you, never cheap out on PSU, go for the best you are able to buy, trust me when you go for minimum and want to upgrade in the future it's gonna be headache.

 

[SgtScream]

build recommendation above seems solid, but one advice I have got for you, never cheap out on PSU, go for the best you are able to buy, trust me when you go for minimum and want to upgrade in the future it's gonna be headache.

^ Up vote!

 

[Rogue Leader]

build recommendation above seems solid, but one advice I have got for you, never cheap out on PSU, go for the best you are able to buy, trust me when you go for minimum and want to upgrade in the future it's gonna be headache.

Good point but he has a Seasonic Focus Plus Gold in the build so I think hes got that covered. Not a concern in this builds case.

 

[g-unit1111]

Your not being blind. I just unchecked the "Enable Compatibility Filter" to select one of the Fractal Core Cases to see what the compatibility issue is, and id have to agree with pcpartpicker on this, its your liquid cooler. Pcpartpicker doesnt think it will fit without use of an adapter or something. I think youll have problems with it due to the hoses as they are pretty long for the small form factor case of the core series at least with the 1000 and 1100. Youd possibly run into kinking the hoses and not having any flow. However if you use the stock cooler for the cpu everything should fit fine. And I can atest to the stock cooler, in fact id almost say there really is nothing that quite replaces its power other than the AIO Liquid Coolers. However I would also have to agree with Rogue Leader the fractal design core series are some pretty good mini itx cases. As long as you upgrade the stock fans on the pc case with some high CFM fans you should be good no matter what your doing.

That whole build is a mess here. Crossfire is never a good solution and didn't even work properly when it was new, you should just let that one go. It's always better to buy the latest generation that you can afford, and that one is currently the RTX 2070 or RTX 2080, both of which can be had on this budget, and both of which would absolutely destroy a Crossfire RX580 setup in any game you throw at it. And the cooling solution is a moot point - you don't always need a liquid cooler and a ton of case fans in every situation. You would definitely need a cooler if you're using an Intel CPU as they don't have one, but AMD's Wraith Spire stock cooler is actually one of the best out there, and actually is pretty competitive with a lot of coolers in its' class.

I would do something like this on a £2000 budget:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core OEM/Tray Processor (£258.59 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Ultimate 76 CFM CPU Cooler (£53.45 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG Strix Z370-I Gaming Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard (£179.99 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£153.59 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£68.63 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£107.27 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card (£769.97 @ Ebuyer)
Case: BitFenix - Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case (£74.94 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£100.97 @ More Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.97 @ Laptops Direct)
Total: £1850.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-16 16:30 GMT+0000

 

[mossberg]

Your not being blind. I just unchecked the "Enable Compatibility Filter" to select one of the Fractal Core Cases to see what the compatibility issue is, and id have to agree with pcpartpicker on this, its your liquid cooler. Pcpartpicker doesnt think it will fit without use of an adapter or something. I think youll have problems with it due to the hoses as they are pretty long for the small form factor case of the core series at least with the 1000 and 1100. Youd possibly run into kinking the hoses and not having any flow. However if you use the stock cooler for the cpu everything should fit fine. And I can atest to the stock cooler, in fact id almost say there really is nothing that quite replaces its power other than the AIO Liquid Coolers. However I would also have to agree with Rogue Leader the fractal design core series are some pretty good mini itx cases. As long as you upgrade the stock fans on the pc case with some high CFM fans you should be good no matter what your doing.

That whole build is a mess here. Crossfire is never a good solution and didn't even work properly when it was new, you should just let that one go. It's always better to buy the latest generation that you can afford, and that one is currently the RTX 2070 or RTX 2080, both of which can be had on this budget, and both of which would absolutely destroy a Crossfire RX580 setup in any game you throw at it. And the cooling solution is a moot point - you don't always need a liquid cooler and a ton of case fans in every situation. You would definitely need a cooler if you're using an Intel CPU as they don't have one, but AMD's Wraith Spire stock cooler is actually one of the best out there, and actually is pretty competitive with a lot of coolers in its' class.

I would do something like this on a £2000 budget:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core OEM/Tray Processor (£258.59 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Ultimate 76 CFM CPU Cooler (£53.45 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG Strix Z370-I Gaming Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard (£179.99 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£153.59 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£68.63 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£107.27 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card (£769.97 @ Ebuyer)
Case: BitFenix - Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case (£74.94 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£100.97 @ More Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.97 @ Laptops Direct)
Total: £1850.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-16 16:30 GMT+0000

You are a bit late to the party. We are way passed the CF, and the OP already has the AIO, among some other parts.

 

[g-unit1111]

You are a bit late to the party. We are way passed the CF, and the OP already has the AIO, among some other parts.

OK I'll show myself out then.

 

[alan_3833]

The Core 500 would be the case he wants.

Which case is this?

I have no desire to keep the DVD drive, its just from my old PC and god knows when I used it last.
I am not set on the GPU either if it is getting in the way of a smaller case and another GPU will still deliver the same performance.