News 10-year-old Nvidia GPU is still receiving love from vendors — Asus debuts GeForce GT 710 EVO with 2GB GDDR5 memory

[ivan_vy]

You still need a GPU to use a USB monitor as well as a USB port that supports video out.

I was talking about the Videocard to be connected via USB to the PC instead of PCI

 

[CmdrShepard]

video surveillance? frontdesk in hotels, stores, mall? conference room? cheap zoom/teams client?

I haven't seen any video cameras for that purpose yet which support AV1 coding. That doesn't mean they don't (or won't) exist just that it's highly unlikely that anyone would want to pair such an old card with the state of the art camera capable of AV1 encoding in hardware.

 

[ivan_vy]

I haven't seen any video cameras for that purpose yet which support AV1 coding. That doesn't mean they don't (or won't) exist just that it's highly unlikely that anyone would want to pair such an old card with the state of the art camera capable of AV1 encoding in hardware.

https://boeroboy.medium.com/av1-is-...deo-surveillance-and-drone-video-3cfa341356cf
"50x more video storage or transfer bandwidth." seems a good deal

 

[CmdrShepard]

https://boeroboy.medium.com/av1-is-...deo-surveillance-and-drone-video-3cfa341356cf
"50x more video storage or transfer bandwidth." seems a good deal

You are quoting an "AV1 evangelist".

 

[ivan_vy]

You are quoting an "AV1 evangelist".

still a valid point, HW and SW are in constant evolution, brute forcing everything is not the way to go.

 

[CmdrShepard]

still a valid point, HW and SW are in constant evolution, brute forcing everything is not the way to go.

I don't see how someone's wishful thinking is a valid point. Months ago he claimed that there will be products with AV1, I don't see them yet.

 

[ivan_vy]

I don't see how someone's wishful thinking is a valid point. Months ago he claimed that there will be products with AV1, I don't see them yet.

the videofeed can be captured in any codec and the GPU would do the transcoding to save space, if you don't like the guy that does not means he might be wrong, a broken clock....

 

[CmdrShepard]

the videofeed can be captured in any codec and the GPU would do the transcoding to save space, if you don't like the guy that does not means he might be wrong, a broken clock....

AV1 is not yet properly supported in all hardware much less in all relevant software.

For example in Teams, which boasted AV1 support back in March the current status is:

Teams will use AV1 HW codec if present, otherwise it will fallback to AV1 SW (usually in low FPS, since SW codec runs slower). There is no transcoding between streams, so both sender and receiver need to support the same codec.

What that means for Teams conferencing? Since AV1 is only available on desktop client if someone joins from the mobile Teams client everyone on the call will be dropped back to H.264.

So in theory you could have transcoding on a GPU, but unless there's a demand nobody will bother to implement it (just like Microsoft didn't bother to do it and they have money to waste).

Again, if wishes were horses and all that. AV1 won't take off anytime soon, if you buy GT 710 now you will probably get to buy another card before AV1 becomes widespread. A sign of it being widespread is going to be bootleg groups releasing movies in AV1 exclusively so watch for that before you jump in on AV1 gravy train.

 

[emike09]

Why would someone want to pay for AV1 capable card which is 2-3 times thicker, needs active cooling, and uses way more power if they don't need AV1 to begin with?

Not every computer user is intravenously hooked into a video stream.

AV1 capabilities in no way makes a card 2-3 times thicker or need active cooling by simply implementing it. The amount of silicon dedicated to AV1 is tiny. Power consumption by AV1 is tiny. IPC of modern chips and fab mean much more ability for far less power. AV1 is becoming more and more mainstream. Steaming services like YT, Netflix, etc. use it. Teams, Zoom, etc. use it. Digital television broadcasting is using it.

AV1 provides better compression efficiency compared to its predecessors - H.264 (AVC) and H.265 (HEVC). It can deliver the same visual quality at a lower bitrate or higher quality at the same bitrate, leading to reduced bandwidth requirements for streaming or storing video content. Who wouldn't want this natural evolution? It's capable of handling resolutions from SD to 8K and beyond, as well as high dynamic range (HDR) and wide color gamut (WCG) content that more and more monitors and TVs are supporting.

If I'm going to be dropping $$ on an expansion card, I'll take all I can get for the lowest price possible. It's absurd that an 11-year-old platform is still being sold. Even the 8-year-old 1030 needs to go away. Give me a 4010 for less than $100.