Question 13600k High temps Help

[PatrykPL95]

I want to refer to this post

"MSI B660s should have the lite load option - look for it under advanced CPU options and set it to 1, leave CPU voltage at auto to start with.
On my 13600KF, chaning lite load to 1 drops the max voltage in cinebench from 1.409v to 1.259v. "

I understand that bios sets more voltage than it should sometimes, resulting higher CPU temps. I have 13600k paired with AK620, on games such as battlefield 2042, or apex my CPU max spikes up to sometimes 90c. I have tried looking for a similar settings in my Gigabyte motherboard, but I am not sure which setting does that.

I want to reduce my cpu temps, can someone help me?

My motherboard Z690 GAMING X DDR4 Gigabyte

 

[GarrettL]

As usual, please post all pc specs to include the case you are using.

The AK620 should be able to handle the 13600k.

 

[PatrykPL95]

Intel Core i5-13600K
Gigabyte Z690 GAMING X DDR4
Genesis Irid 400 RGB
G.SKILL 16GB (2x8GB) 3200MHz CL16 Aegis
be quiet! Pure Power 11 FM 750W 80 Plus Gold
Ak620
RTX 3080 gigabyte gaming oc

 

[Phaaze88]

Genesis Irid 400 RGB
+
RTX 3080 gigabyte gaming oc

Where's the airflow?
The front of the case looks to be closed off, and that gpu dumps a good bit of heat into the case...

 

[GarrettL]

https://genesis-zone.com/product/irid-400-rgb?ir=1

It looks like it's slotted on the front with some obstruction on the upper and lower fan front fans, if that is the right case.

 

[Phaaze88]

https://genesis-zone.com/product/irid-400-rgb?ir=1

It looks like it's slotted on the front with some obstruction on the upper and lower fan front fans, if that is the right case.

Yeah, that's what I saw, and the marketing about airflow further down the page smells of bull...
Those fans are not good:
32CFM
1.2mmH2O
^with the fan at 100% rpm. That's WEAK for intakes. Good for nothing more than exhaust, as air resistance typically isn't as strong at the rear and top.

 

[GarrettL]

Remove the side panel and see how the temps are in comparison?

 

[PatrykPL95]

Yeah, that's what I saw, and the marketing about airflow further down the page smells of bull...
Those fans are not good:
32CFM
1.2mmH2O
^with the fan at 100% rpm. That's WEAK for intakes. Good for nothing more than exhaust, as air resistance typically isn't as strong at the rear and top.

What does CFM stand for?
Any recommendations of a case that would be acceptable?

 

[PatrykPL95]

What does CFM stand for?
Any recommendations of a case that would be acceptable?

Perhaps this?
https://www.x-kom.pl/p/1091569-obudowa-do-komputera-endorfy-regnum-400-argb.html

Or something from this site you could recommend its a good Polish pc website there is also this one:

1. https://www.x-kom.pl/g-5/c/389-obudowy-do-komputera.html

2. https://www.morele.net/kategoria/obudowy-33/

How do you calculate the CFM?

 

[Lafong]

CFM (cubic feet per minute) is typically not calculated by users.

It is a specification provided by the fan manufacturer.

Of some importance, but maybe you shouldn't live or die by it. Lots of other factors to consider: case design; number and type of fans; your tolerance for noise; your anxiety level over temps; obstructions like fan grills or heatsinks, cost, etc.

 

[GarrettL]

What does CFM stand for?
Any recommendations of a case that would be acceptable?

Take your side panel off and run the same tests again. This will tell you if it's an airflow issue.

 

[Phaaze88]

What does CFM stand for?
Any recommendations of a case that would be acceptable?
How do you calculate the CFM?

Lafong already responded, but in simpler terms, it's a measurement of the 'umph', or driving force of a fan.
Static pressure(mmH2O) is a measurement of how well a fan holds up against obstacles. The higher it is, the less CFM is lost and vice versa.

Cases are a personal thing. Pick a few you like, and share the links with us.
Hint: the more straightforward the path of entry/exit(for air), the more effective cooling will be.

Literally impossible to calculate, between fan curves, fan specs, and the degree of obstacles present.

 

[PatrykPL95]

Take your side panel off and run the same tests again. This will tell you if it's an airflow issue.

I Will run some tests when i get back from work, meanwhile what about these ?

https://www.x-kom.pl/p/580472-obudowa-do-komputera-cooler-master-mastercase-h500p-mesh-argb-biala.html

https://www.x-kom.pl/p/1091569-obudowa-do-komputera-endorfy-regnum-400-argb.html

https://www.x-kom.pl/p/575246-obudowa-do-komputera-asus-tuf-gaming-gt301.html

 

[Phaaze88]

I Will run some tests when i get back from work, meanwhile what about these ?

https://www.x-kom.pl/p/580472-obudowa-do-komputera-cooler-master-mastercase-h500p-mesh-argb-biala.html

https://www.x-kom.pl/p/1091569-obudowa-do-komputera-endorfy-regnum-400-argb.html

https://www.x-kom.pl/p/575246-obudowa-do-komputera-asus-tuf-gaming-gt301.html

Have personally used this one, so I can vouch that it's a good one.
2nd one looks fine too.
The 3rd one... carrying handles in the front? I guess that's a style... looks ok too.

 

[PatrykPL95]

Have personally used this one, so I can vouch that it's a good one.
2nd one looks fine too.
The 3rd one... carrying handles in the front? I guess that's a style... looks ok too.

I have tested open/closed case window, they dont seem to be much different.
What else can I do?

Closed:

Open:

 

[Phaaze88]

I have tested open/closed case window, they dont seem to be much different.
What else can I do?

Closed:

Open:

I'm not sure what only opening the side panel is supposed to prove? Most have their side panels closed, with intakes having a fan blowing in.
Maybe GarrettL can clarify.

The screenshots show a max of 80C, not 90C that was mentioned in the first post. That's already a significant improvement if that is the case...
Also... this game used up to 191w of cpu power? Or was it another app?

 

[GarrettL]

I'm not sure what only opening the side panel is supposed to prove? Most have their side panels closed, with intakes having a fan blowing in.
Maybe GarrettL can clarify.

The screenshots show a max of 80C, not 90C that was mentioned in the first post. That's already a significant improvement if that is the case...
Also... this game used up to 191w of cpu power? Or was it another app?

To see if the front panel was obstructing the airlfowto a point of causing the higher than normal temp issues.

 

[PatrykPL95]

I'm not sure what only opening the side panel is supposed to prove? Most have their side panels closed, with intakes having a fan blowing in.
Maybe GarrettL can clarify.

The screenshots show a max of 80C, not 90C that was mentioned in the first post. That's already a significant improvement if that is the case...
Also... this game used up to 191w of cpu power? Or was it another app?

OCasionally, when for example booting up apex it just goes up to 90 , it does happen to me, rarely but it does.

 

[uWebb429]

@PatrykPL95
Your screenshot shows that the undervolt is not being applied to both the core (IA Offset) and the cache (LLC/Ring). Many Intel CPUs will ignore this undervolt request unless both the core and the cache are set equally. Are you using the BIOS to adjust the voltage? It might not be working correctly.

I will send you a version of ThrottleStop that supports 13th Gen CPUs. It will allow you to set these two voltages correctly / equally.

 

[PatrykPL95]

@PatrykPL95
Your screenshot shows that the undervolt is not being applied to both the core (IA Offset) and the cache (LLC/Ring). Many Intel CPUs will ignore this undervolt request unless both the core and the cache are set equally. Are you using the BIOS to adjust the voltage? It might not be working correctly.

I will send you a version of ThrottleStop that supports 13th Gen CPUs. It will allow you to set these two voltages correctly / equally.

I am using Intel extreme utility, i dont want to download anything from anyone, i Hope you can understand that , i am really greatfull for any help from you. I Will try to download IT from official website .

 

[PatrykPL95]

I am using Intel extreme utility, i dont want to download anything from anyone, i Hope you can understand that , i am really greatfull for any help from you. I Will try to download IT from official website .

Btw i dont think its broken i just havent done IT in the bios, maybe some advice on how to undervolt in my bios correctly ?

 

[Phaaze88]

To see if the front panel was obstructing the airlfowto a point of causing the higher than normal temp issues.

But then a fan is also necessary to blow inside that way. Who does case intake with no fans, except specifically in negative pressure designed cases?

@PatrykPL95 , uWebb429 is the developer of Throttlestop. It's A-OK.

 

[PatrykPL95]

But then a fan is also necessary to blow inside that way. Who does case intake with no fans, except specifically in negative pressure designed cases?

@PatrykPL95 , uWebb429 is the developer of Throttlestop. It's A-OK.

Ok I will download it.

 

[PatrykPL95]

But then a fan is also necessary to blow inside that way. Who does case intake with no fans, except specifically in negative pressure designed cases?

@PatrykPL95 , uWebb429 is the developer of Throttlestop. It's A-OK.

In the zip file , it says its a trojan and it wouldnt allow me to keep it. It just deletes itself.

 

[uWebb429]

i dont want to download anything from anyone

No problem, I understand. All I know is that Intel XTU does not appear to be working correctly.

its a trojan

Some anti-virus programs complain with beta releases. If they are not yet familiar with the .exe, they complain. I guess you will have to wait for this version to be released at TechPowerUp. Maybe next week.