Question 1440p 60Hz Graphics Card?

[Swifi]

I have a HP Pavilion 32q 1440p 60Hz monitor that I will have for a while. I am doing my first PC build for gaming and computer science classes (python, C++, the basics...) I want to be able to play games like GTA V, Call of Duty, Pubg, Hitman, Anno 1800, etc. at 1440p 60FPS. I believe the monitor has Freesync. I was thinking off doing Ryzen 2600X build but I’m not sure what graphics card to get. I’m keeping my build at around $1,000. What should I get. AMD RX580 maybe?

 

[Darkbreeze]

Not for 1440p. You want to look at GTX 1070, RTX 2060 or higher, if you want a minimum of 60FPS at 1440p. RX580 might JUST get you in there, but probably not consistently and definitely not on all titles. At 1080p it's a pretty good card. At 1440p, it starts to sweat a bit.

 

[ArchitSahu]

Ryzen:
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bKLXxG

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.59 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Video Card ($429.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $998.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-05 05:48 EDT-0400

Solid 1440p gaming build. Just download the ISO of Windows from Microsoft and not activate it.

Intel:
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c4kKYT

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($196.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($65.91 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.59 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Video Card ($429.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $986.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-05 05:50 EDT-0400

Same build except 8400 and B360.

Either should be fine, although the 2600x can be OC'ed and has more threads.

 

[-Fran-]

Ugh. While your intention is good @ArchitSahu, the SSD choice is terrible. I'd say get a 500GB 970EVO instead or that 240GB+1TB split.

As for the OPs question, both the RX580 and RTX1660ti may struggle with 1440p unless you sacrifice quite a lot of eye candy on them. Maybe everything in high can give you 60FPS most of the time, but they'll struggle more times than not. Specially with GTA V. The other games should run just fine with both and just a tad dialed back.

I would also say, to be confident you won't have FPS problems, to go with a 1070, Vega56/64 or better than them.

Cheers!

 

[renz496]

CPU should be fine but RX 580 is more suitable for 1080p 60FPS. if you want 1440p 60FPS you need something stronger. something in the league of RTX2060 or Vega 56/64.

 

[renz496]

Ugh. While your intention is good @ArchitSahu, the SSD choice is terrible. I'd say get a 500GB 970EVO instead or that 240GB+1TB split.

As for the OPs question, both the RX580 and RTX1660ti may struggle with 1440p unless you sacrifice quite a lot of eye candy on them. Maybe everything in high can give you 60FPS most of the time, but they'll struggle more times than not. Specially with GTA V. The other games should run just fine with both and just a tad dialed back.

I would also say, to be confident you won't have FPS problems, to go with a 1070, Vega56/64 or better than them.

Cheers!

isn't that 1660ti is on par or better than 1070?

 

[-Fran-]

isn't that 1660ti is on par or better than 1070?

Ah, you're right; it was a slip of the mind... The 1660ti usually sits in between the 1660/1060 and 1070 though. I'd say it's still lesser than the 1070 on average, but not that far away. Still, the baseline for 1440p should still be the 1070/2060/2060S cards IMO.

Cheers!

 

[digitalgriffin]

I have a HP Pavilion 32q 1440p 60Hz monitor that I will have for a while. I am doing my first PC build for gaming and computer science classes (python, C++, the basics...) I want to be able to play games like GTA V, Call of Duty, Pubg, Hitman, Anno 1800, etc. at 1440p 60FPS. I believe the monitor has Freesync. I was thinking off doing Ryzen 2600X build but I’m not sure what graphics card to get. I’m keeping my build at around $1,000. What should I get. AMD RX580 maybe?

RX580 might do it IF (And that's a big IF depending on game) you turn down some of your image quality settings.

Anything above 1080p gaming is stupid expensive right now. 1440p is becoming mainstream, but the prices are just ludicrous compared to when 1080p was mainstream. I think the breaking point for mass adoption will be about $350 new for 1440p. Excluding closeouts, we aren't quite there yet.

On the AMD Side: (In order from lowest powered)
$200 RX590 Overclocked (You'll still need to turn off a few settings)
$300 Vega 56
$350 Vega 64
?$350? 5700* (Likely, you'll have to wait till Sunday to find out)
?$400? 5700XT (Very Likely, you'll have to wait till Sunday to find out)

On the NVIDIA Side: (In order from lowest powered)
$200 1070 *Used
$225 1070ti *Used
$350 2060
$400 2060 Super
$250 1080 *Used
$450 2070 *Closeout
$500 2070 Super
$275 1080ti - 4K Terratory *Used
$650 2080 - Crippled in some 4K due to memory *Closeout
?$700? 2080 Super - Crippled in some 4K due to memory *Expected new price
?$999? 2080ti Price may come down with the 2080 Super looming. But I doubt by much

 

[Darkbreeze]

Problem is, every generation these cards get a little more capable at a given resolution BUT the demands of games go up each generation as well. There's no way I'd go with any card lower than a 1070/206 or Vega 64 for current models UNLESS you are willing to make significant concessions on your game quality settings and move a few sliders to the left, IF you want to maintain 60FPS at that resolution.

The rest of the build is largely a matter of personal preferences and budget so long as you don't go with anything lower tiered than the 2600x that you already have outlined and you don't cheap out on the power supply.

 

[Swifi]

Not for 1440p. You want to look at GTX 1070, RTX 2060 or higher, if you want a minimum of 60FPS at 1440p. RX580 might JUST get you in there, but probably not consistently and definitely not on all titles. At 1080p it's a pretty good card. At 1440p, it starts to sweat a bit.

Hey thank you for the reply. Would a gaming laptop with the 2060 be able to support it.

 

[Swifi]

RX580 might do it IF (And that's a big IF depending on game) you turn down some of your image quality settings.

Anything above 1080p gaming is stupid expensive right now. 1440p is becoming mainstream, but the prices are just ludicrous compared to when 1080p was mainstream. I think the breaking point for mass adoption will be about $350 new for 1440p. Excluding closeouts, we aren't quite there yet.

On the AMD Side: (In order from lowest powered)
$200 RX590 Overclocked (You'll still need to turn off a few settings)
$300 Vega 56
$350 Vega 64
?$350? 5700* (Likely, you'll have to wait till Sunday to find out)
?$400? 5700XT (Very Likely, you'll have to wait till Sunday to find out)

On the NVIDIA Side: (In order from lowest powered)
$200 1070 *Used
$225 1070ti *Used
$350 2060
$400 2060 Super
$250 1080 *Used
$450 2070 *Closeout
$500 2070 Super
$275 1080ti - 4K Terratory *Used
$650 2080 - Crippled in some 4K due to memory *Closeout
?$700? 2080 Super - Crippled in some 4K due to memory *Expected new price
?$999? 2080ti Price may come down with the 2080 Super looming. But I doubt by much

Hey great information. What would be an ideal build for 1440p. And would any gaming laptop suffice. By plugging it into the monitor

 

[Darkbreeze]

Laptops are poor choices for long term, high end gaming. Practically every one lacks sufficient cooling and while they typically will work fine under very demanding gaming conditions, extended gaming over time tends to create thermal conditions that simply fatigue the hardware. Consider that the capability of the hardware has been steadily increasing, as has the heat, for the last five or six generations, but the cooling systems in these units is primarily the same as it has been all along. There is really very little they can do to improve the cooling configurations in laptops, so you have to rely on the idea of new processes reducing the heat output and unfortunately once you start doing extended gaming a lot of that goes right out the window.

If you are even semi-serious about gaming, and will do a lot of it, get a desktop system and forget about doing it on a laptop. The heat will kill your hardware and unlike a desktop system, there is very little that can be done or replaced, in order to fix it once that happens. Throw it in the trash and buy another one will be the most probable resolution to that situation.

 

[ArchitSahu]

Ugh. While your intention is good @ArchitSahu, the SSD choice is terrible. I'd say get a 500GB 970EVO instead or that 240GB+1TB split.

As for the OPs question, both the RX580 and RTX1660ti may struggle with 1440p unless you sacrifice quite a lot of eye candy on them. Maybe everything in high can give you 60FPS most of the time, but they'll struggle more times than not. Specially with GTA V. The other games should run just fine with both and just a tad dialed back.

I would also say, to be confident you won't have FPS problems, to go with a 1070, Vega56/64 or better than them.

Cheers!

Hmm, what was your experience with this SSD? I have been running a Kingston SSD on my 2nd computer for nearly 4 years now, and it has been running good. Perhaps there were some issues that I may have missed?

If OP can get a 500 GB SSD, I would recommend that too, but I always felt that a 1tb storage is a no brainer at the minimum.

 

[-Fran-]

Hmm, what was your experience with this SSD? I have been running a Kingston SSD on my 2nd computer for nearly 4 years now, and it has been running good. Perhaps there were some issues that I may have missed?

If OP can get a 500 GB SSD, I would recommend that too, but I always felt that a 1tb storage is a no brainer at the minimum.

I bought it for my HTPC on a sale a couple years ago and it's been bad. It's really slow and it's reflective of it's basement bargain price. You're better off, as i said, compromising with a healthy middle that's not far off. I like Kingston products, because they just work, but the performance of this SSD compared to other slightly more expensive alternatives is abysmal.

I'll give it one thing: it hasn't failed once.

Cheers!

 

[Darkbreeze]

I've had a healthy dislike of Kingston products ever since they were caught doing this. Actually, maybe even before then to be honest, although in the distant past I've definitely been guilty of buying their products from time to time. Since this though, I've avoided them entirely just out of general principle. Once a turd, always a turd in my opinion.

PNY I avoid as a matter of course.

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme...itching-cheaper-components-after-good-reviews

 

[-Fran-]

Holy cow... I did not know that! Yikes!

Thanks for sharing, Darkbreeze!

 

[Darkbreeze]

For sure.