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I'm basically a retard when it comes to building a computer, having never done it myself. I will read some guides on it, but of course this would be the smarter thing to do.

Approximate Purchase Date: Second to last or the last week of this month.

Budget Range: $1500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, streaming/recording, surfing the web

Are you buying a monitor: Yes


Do you need to buy OS: No idea if I should or not, but if so windows 7.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Once again, I'm completely new the only 2 websites I know are pcpartpicker and newegg. Please just link a website that YOU think is good.

Location: I live in San Jose, California.

Parts Preferences: No idea

Overclocking: No idea(could someone explain)

SLI or Crossfire: No idea(could someone explain)

Your Monitor Resolution: Need a new monitor for 1080 HD streaming please.

Additional Comments: I'm most likely going to mainly play DayZ, LoL, GW2, WoW, Battlefield 3 and the new one coming out, Black ops 2, GTA 4 and basically I want it to be able to play any game out today on max/medium.

Also, I already have a very nice gaming keyboard/mouse but I would love it if someone can link me a nice webcam that is perfect for skype/streaming and a nice headset(I already have one but years old so I could use an upgrade).

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: My current one sucks penis and I need a new one.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($214.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.50 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VH238H 23.0" Monitor ($144.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1420.37
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-06 21:28 EDT-0400)
 
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This'd be my pitch:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($95.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.23 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($405.91 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/Orange) ATX Mid Tower Case ($85.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($266.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1516.61
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-06 21:36 EDT-0400)

To answer your questions, overclocking is, literally, increasing the clocks on your CPU, GPU, or RAM. When done correctly, this results in increased power without increased cost. However, overclocking also increases the amount of heat generated, and so coolers are required. Overall, it's something that many people do, but you can easily get away with not doing it. (Note, this is a hyper-simplified explaination.)
CrossFire/SLI is using multiple GPUs (Graphics Processing Units) together. It's a (usually) price-efficient way to get some extra performance, but it has a number of bugs, particularly CrossFire, AMD's multi-GPU system.

The build I designed cannot overclock, but is quite powerful and should handle any game currently on the market at max (though you'd drop below 60 FPS on Crysis 3. What can I say? It's Crysis.).

Edit: Whoops. Didn't notice that you needed a monitor. Updated build posted.

Also, @Thanatos Telos, he's quite a ways from Microcenter, so I'm not sure that it would be efficient for him to use a Microcenter combo.
 
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Pcpartpicker does that automatically, even if I override it.
 
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Is there some way in which the current builds are insufficient? Because we can alter them, if you'd like. We'd just need to know where you found them lacking.

Edit: @ Thanatos: Have you tried getting the BB code for "Your Preferred Merchants" rather than "All Merchants"? That tends to remove the Microcenter links.
 
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I don't really know what to say as I don't know much, I'm relying 100% on you guys.
 
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Well, if you'd just like to wait for more opinions to be offered, that's fine. There could be some potential for improvement that Thanatos and I have missed. Just let us know if/when you require more from us, I suppose.
 
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Yeah, thats why i'm waiting. I'll most likely buy the best build by or on june 20th.
 
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@Jack Revenant: that monitor will definitely put a drop in performance. You would probably want to OC that or go lower.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($167.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($409.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($66.79 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($90.91 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1478.47
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
 
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How can a monitor hurt my performance?
 
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He means the cost of the monitor, and he's right. If it's a toss up between that monitor and OCing, you should OC. I had assumed that you wouldn't want to OC, based on your original post, so the only sacrifice I perceived was losing the 780 (which would happen with any monitor).
 
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Is it really smart for me to OC if i'm completely new to this?
 
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That would depend on if you're willing to do the research to make sure you know what you're doing beforehand, and spend the time testing to make sure you have a stable overclock. Done wrong, overclocks can actually decrease the performance of a system, or even damage components. Done correctly and carefully, they amount to free extra performance. So, ultimately, you get out what you put in.
 
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Does OCing require me to do stuff to the actual parts or?
 
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Alright, then I see no issue with overclocking. Although I have a little issue, I wouldn't know how to put all the parts together once I've gotten them. Any guide on that?
 
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I could see how that could be a minor issue. Unfortunately, due to minor muscle condition forcing me to have my builds assembled for me, I don't keep up with build guides. I'm sure that ksham can recommend something excellent, however.
 
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There is a Microcenter in Orange county/ Tustin California. If you go there you can pick up an i7 3770k for only $370. A 4670k with a motherboard for $330, and 3570k with a motherboard for $280. I don't know how far away you live, but these are like $100 discounts in total you are getting from the CPU and Motherboard that you could invest somewhere else in your build. You might even be able to step up to a 780. Here's my build for you.

i5 3570k+Gigabyte z77-DS3H= $278.91
Thermaltake 850w PSU=$93.50
Bitfenix Shinobi Mid-Tower Case= $70
ASUS DVD Drive=$17
Western Digital 1TB=$70
G-Skill 8gb 1600mhz (2x40)=$65
Cooler Master HYPER 212 EVO=$30
Samsung 840 120gb SSD=$110
Asus VX238H=$160
EVGA GTX 780 ( This GPU is the best on the market except for the titan and is 20% faster than the 770, It will definitely play BF4 on ULTRA with 60+ FPS)=$650
TOTAL Without rebate: $1544.41
TOTAL WITH Rebate: $1514.41

This build does go a little over $1500, but I'm assuming that $15 is worth the 20% performance boost you get over the other $1500 builds.
 
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Is assembling it that hard in your opinion?
 
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I'd rather not have to go anywhere for the parts, but thanks!
 
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You would be saving $100 by going to microcenter, but if it's too far away, it's fine.

 
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He'd also be driving over 300 miles each way...
 
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Not massively, I just don't have steady enough hands. You should be in fine shape, so long as you watch some guide videos (my apologies for having none to recommend) and make sure you know what you're doing before you start.
 
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