$1500 Gaming new build help

[themlglaw]

I'm basically a retard when it comes to building a computer, having never done it myself. I will read some guides on it, but of course this would be the smarter thing to do.

Approximate Purchase Date: Second to last or the last week of this month.

Budget Range: $1500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, streaming/recording, surfing the web

Are you buying a monitor: Yes


Do you need to buy OS: No idea if I should or not, but if so windows 7.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Once again, I'm completely new the only 2 websites I know are pcpartpicker and newegg. Please just link a website that YOU think is good.

Location: I live in San Jose, California.

Parts Preferences: No idea

Overclocking: No idea(could someone explain)

SLI or Crossfire: No idea(could someone explain)

Your Monitor Resolution: Need a new monitor for 1080 HD streaming please.

Additional Comments: I'm most likely going to mainly play DayZ, LoL, GW2, WoW, Battlefield 3 and the new one coming out, Black ops 2, GTA 4 and basically I want it to be able to play any game out today on max/medium.

Also, I already have a very nice gaming keyboard/mouse but I would love it if someone can link me a nice webcam that is perfect for skype/streaming and a nice headset(I already have one but years old so I could use an upgrade).

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: My current one sucks penis and I need a new one.

 

[Thanatos Telos]

Does OCing require me to do stuff to the actual parts or?

Nope, unless you count installing the CPU cooler. Overclocking is done via software.

Alright, then I see no issue with overclocking. Although I have a little issue, I wouldn't know how to put all the parts together once I've gotten them. Any guide on that?

I could see how that could be a minor issue. Unfortunately, due to minor muscle condition forcing me to have my builds assembled for me, I don't keep up with build guides. I'm sure that ksham can recommend something excellent, however.

Is assembling it that hard in your opinion?

Not massively, I just don't have steady enough hands. You should be in fine shape, so long as you watch some guide videos (my apologies for having none to recommend) and make sure you know what you're doing before you start.

The Newegg video is a personal favorite of mine. Anyway, your mobo should tell you everything in the manual.

 

[themlglaw]

Does OCing require me to do stuff to the actual parts or?

Nope, unless you count installing the CPU cooler. Overclocking is done via software.

Alright, then I see no issue with overclocking. Although I have a little issue, I wouldn't know how to put all the parts together once I've gotten them. Any guide on that?

I could see how that could be a minor issue. Unfortunately, due to minor muscle condition forcing me to have my builds assembled for me, I don't keep up with build guides. I'm sure that ksham can recommend something excellent, however.

Is assembling it that hard in your opinion?

Not massively, I just don't have steady enough hands. You should be in fine shape, so long as you watch some guide videos (my apologies for having none to recommend) and make sure you know what you're doing before you start.

Since no one else is suggesting anything, I guess i'll be going with your build within the next few weeks.

 

[Jack Revenant]

Does OCing require me to do stuff to the actual parts or?

Nope, unless you count installing the CPU cooler. Overclocking is done via software.

Alright, then I see no issue with overclocking. Although I have a little issue, I wouldn't know how to put all the parts together once I've gotten them. Any guide on that?

I could see how that could be a minor issue. Unfortunately, due to minor muscle condition forcing me to have my builds assembled for me, I don't keep up with build guides. I'm sure that ksham can recommend something excellent, however.

Is assembling it that hard in your opinion?

Not massively, I just don't have steady enough hands. You should be in fine shape, so long as you watch some guide videos (my apologies for having none to recommend) and make sure you know what you're doing before you start.

Since no one else is suggesting anything, I guess i'll be going with your build within the next few weeks.

Actually, at current, ksham's build would be a more efficient choice. My build does not have overclocking capability, while his does, and has only very minor advantages in other areas. As a result, his is superior for your current plans.

 

[themlglaw]

Does OCing require me to do stuff to the actual parts or?

Nope, unless you count installing the CPU cooler. Overclocking is done via software.

Alright, then I see no issue with overclocking. Although I have a little issue, I wouldn't know how to put all the parts together once I've gotten them. Any guide on that?

I could see how that could be a minor issue. Unfortunately, due to minor muscle condition forcing me to have my builds assembled for me, I don't keep up with build guides. I'm sure that ksham can recommend something excellent, however.

Is assembling it that hard in your opinion?

Not massively, I just don't have steady enough hands. You should be in fine shape, so long as you watch some guide videos (my apologies for having none to recommend) and make sure you know what you're doing before you start.

Since no one else is suggesting anything, I guess i'll be going with your build within the next few weeks.

Actually, at current, ksham's build would be a more efficient choice. My build does not have overclocking capability, while his does, and has only very minor advantages in other areas. As a result, his is superior for your current plans.

Really? Guess I should start to read up on OC.

He's build is suggesting I buy one of the storage from microcenter, how can I change that?

 

[Jack Revenant]

Does OCing require me to do stuff to the actual parts or?

Nope, unless you count installing the CPU cooler. Overclocking is done via software.

Alright, then I see no issue with overclocking. Although I have a little issue, I wouldn't know how to put all the parts together once I've gotten them. Any guide on that?

I could see how that could be a minor issue. Unfortunately, due to minor muscle condition forcing me to have my builds assembled for me, I don't keep up with build guides. I'm sure that ksham can recommend something excellent, however.

Is assembling it that hard in your opinion?

Not massively, I just don't have steady enough hands. You should be in fine shape, so long as you watch some guide videos (my apologies for having none to recommend) and make sure you know what you're doing before you start.

Since no one else is suggesting anything, I guess i'll be going with your build within the next few weeks.

Actually, at current, ksham's build would be a more efficient choice. My build does not have overclocking capability, while his does, and has only very minor advantages in other areas. As a result, his is superior for your current plans.

Really? Guess I should start to read up on OC.

I guess if he's is the last build posted by the 15th, ill just buy his.

I would advise checking back in before you do. You'd be surprised how things can shift in that amount of time.

That said, his build (or a build very much like it) will likely be most efficient, if you're willing to OC.

 

[themlglaw]

Does OCing require me to do stuff to the actual parts or?

Nope, unless you count installing the CPU cooler. Overclocking is done via software.

Alright, then I see no issue with overclocking. Although I have a little issue, I wouldn't know how to put all the parts together once I've gotten them. Any guide on that?

I could see how that could be a minor issue. Unfortunately, due to minor muscle condition forcing me to have my builds assembled for me, I don't keep up with build guides. I'm sure that ksham can recommend something excellent, however.

Is assembling it that hard in your opinion?

Not massively, I just don't have steady enough hands. You should be in fine shape, so long as you watch some guide videos (my apologies for having none to recommend) and make sure you know what you're doing before you start.

Since no one else is suggesting anything, I guess i'll be going with your build within the next few weeks.

Actually, at current, ksham's build would be a more efficient choice. My build does not have overclocking capability, while his does, and has only very minor advantages in other areas. As a result, his is superior for your current plans.

Really? Guess I should start to read up on OC.

I guess if he's is the last build posted by the 15th, ill just buy his.

I would advise checking back in before you do. You'd be surprised how things can shift in that amount of time.

That said, his build (or a build very much like it) will likely be most efficient, if you're willing to OC.

Will do!

 

[themlglaw]

After much thought, I've decided not to over clock on this as it is my first build, but I will definitely do it in my next build!

 

[Jack Revenant]

After much thought, I've decided not to over clock on this as it is my first build, but I will definitely do it in my next build!

That being the case, my recommendation would shift back to my original suggestion (though you could sub in ksham's monitor, should you so choose), though I would still recommend coming back and checking before you buy.

 

[themlglaw]

After much thought, I've decided not to over clock on this as it is my first build, but I will definitely do it in my next build!

That being the case, my recommendation would shift back to my original suggestion (though you could sub in ksham's monitor, should you so choose), though I would still recommend coming back and checking before you buy.

Yeah I definitely will.

 

[themlglaw]

The day is getting closer and I was wondering if anyone else had a build for me?



Don't...

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http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/283384-33-read-first

 

[themlglaw]

Sorry, but how else can I recover a thread if I can't bump..

I now have the money, but still would like a little more insight on this..

 

[g-unit1111]

I don't get why people are recommending you buy a new rig with old hardware. That will guarantee your system has a shorter life span. This would be better for your budget:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($167.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($425.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1229.68
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-16 19:14 EDT-0400)

 

[Thanatos Telos]

Tell me, how is it old hardware when we picked the same GPU and CPU that you did?

 

[ksham]

That's also the same build I had except for the Case, Optical Drive, and PSU.

 

[Jack Revenant]

I third ksham and Thanatos. How are our builds using old hardware?

 

[themlglaw]

I appreciate all the help, and also could you guy guys also recommend a build around $1200?

 

[Jack Revenant]

I appreciate all the help, and also could you guy guys also recommend a build around $1200?

Our pleasure.

How's this look?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($92.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe MX 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.23 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1208.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-17 03:43 EDT-0400)

 

[themlglaw]

I appreciate all the help, and also could you guy guys also recommend a build around $1200?

Our pleasure.

How's this look?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($92.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe MX 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.23 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1208.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-17 03:43 EDT-0400)

Is their a major difference between this build and the 1500 one you suggested? I might just get this build instead to save some money if not.

 

[ksham]

Yes; the GPU is weaker and the CPU cannot be overclocked.

 

[g-unit1111]

Tell me, how is it old hardware when we picked the same GPU and CPU that you did?

I saw some builds on this thread that were recommending the 3570K. I don't get why - when there's new hardware out - that people keep on insisting on using new builds with the old hardware.

 

[Jack Revenant]

Tell me, how is it old hardware when we picked the same GPU and CPU that you did?

I saw some builds on this thread that were recommending the 3570K. I don't get why - when there's new hardware out - that people keep on insisting on using new builds with the old hardware.

That would be SubinP's build. Thantos, ksham, and I all recommend Haswell CPUs.

I do agree, however. While there are some merits to Ivy Bridge (better overclocking in some cases being one of them), I consider Haswell a worthwhile upgrade, hence my inclusion of it in all but the lowest budget of builds that I suggest, unless the OP specifically wants Ivy Bridge.

 

[themlglaw]

I'm curious, would this build be good for its price?

http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Gamer_Paladin_F770

I've always wondered why people always say not to trust sites like these, weren't they made for gaming computers?

 

[Jack Revenant]

I'm curious, would this build be good for its price?

http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Gamer_Paladin_F770

I've always wondered why people always say not to trust sites like these, weren't they made for gaming computers?

My short answer would be "No."
My long answer would be a "Nooooo" with so many "o"s that it could circle the world at the equator.

That build is $1250 for $600's worth of performance. It has an overpriced CPU and motherboard (X79 isn't really ever efficient, honestly), a mid-tier GPU, and a lot of marketing.

People don't say not to trust them (or at least I don't, perhaps some do), they say that they're a rip-off. Sites like iBuyPower put together extremely inefficient builds and sell them at grossly inflated prices, primarily to take advantage of people who don't know what makes a computer good for gaming. I rather despise them, to be honest.

 

[themlglaw]

I'm curious, would this build be good for its price?

http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Gamer_Paladin_F770

I've always wondered why people always say not to trust sites like these, weren't they made for gaming computers?

My short answer would be "No."
My long answer would be a "Nooooo" with so many "o"s that it could circle the world at the equator.

That build is $1250 for $600's worth of performance. It has an overpriced CPU and motherboard (X79 isn't really ever efficient, honestly), a mid-tier GPU, and a lot of marketing.

People don't say not to trust them (or at least I don't, perhaps some do), they say that they're a rip-off. Sites like iBuyPower put together extremely inefficient builds and sell them at grossly inflated prices, primarily to take advantage of people who don't know what makes a computer good for gaming. I rather despise them, to be honest.

Alright thanks! I thought it would be good since it said it could run Crysis 3 on high. I'm just scared that I might mess up on building my PC so I figured buying one already built from a website like this would be smarter.

 

[Jack Revenant]

I'm curious, would this build be good for its price?

http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Gamer_Paladin_F770

I've always wondered why people always say not to trust sites like these, weren't they made for gaming computers?

My short answer would be "No."
My long answer would be a "Nooooo" with so many "o"s that it could circle the world at the equator.

That build is $1250 for $600's worth of performance. It has an overpriced CPU and motherboard (X79 isn't really ever efficient, honestly), a mid-tier GPU, and a lot of marketing.

People don't say not to trust them (or at least I don't, perhaps some do), they say that they're a rip-off. Sites like iBuyPower put together extremely inefficient builds and sell them at grossly inflated prices, primarily to take advantage of people who don't know what makes a computer good for gaming. I rather despise them, to be honest.

Alright thanks! I thought it would be good since it said it could run Crysis 3 on high. I'm just scared that I might mess up on building my PC so I figured buying one already built from a website like this would be smarter.

If you're looking for an alternative to building yourself (which I don't recommend, by the way. Custom building will always give the most efficient results), Digital Storm has a line of PCs called the...Vanquish series, I believe? They're priced quite close to their total parts cost on Newegg. Hardly ideal, utterly uncustomizable, but an alternative nonetheless.

I wouldn't worry too much, however. Just make sure to watch some guide videos, know what you're going to do before you start work, and be careful.

As an addendum, that PC most certainly couldn't handle Crysis 3 on High, at least not at 60 FPS. The 7870 only averages 45 FPS on High settings, according to this review: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-3-performance-benchmark-gaming,3451-5.html