19" Philips Brilliance 109P10

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Hello there!

I'm seriously considering a Philips Brilliance 109P10 19", does anybody know if this monitor is good. I am basing my choice on some really thorough reviews. Yep, I am aware of the fact that Philips has made average or mediocre monitors so far (at least as for CRTs) but this 109P10 (*!!AND NOT P20!!*) seems really good!

Price isn't a big issue, I want a fantastic 19" monitor (OK, EIZO way TOO PRICEY. So please don't suggest me EIZO).

Thanks.

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What is the difference between the 109P10 and P20? ive got the P20 and I think its the best $1000(AU) ive spent.

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Hello!

Apart from minor differences P10 HAS an USB connector while P20 hasn't. What I'm not sure about the type of the tube 'cause those of P10 is advertised all around as a RealFlat while the one of P20 is DiamondTron (that is fantastic if not the best!). All in all both have flat tubes and this is the point.

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Im pretty sure the P10 has a DiamondTron too, I remember seeing it on a couple of web pages a while ago.

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aperture grille sux0rs!!! shadow mask owns j00!!! I wish I could go back in time and prevent sony from ever crafting such an evil invention as the trinitron tube. monitors weren't meant to have lines on them!!!

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You don´t know what you are talking about!

The lines are not a big issue as you´ll get used to it and will stop noticing them!

What is a fact is that the Trinitron tube gives the best image you can find on any monitor!

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Have you thought about Sony G-400?
It´s way better than any monitor Philips could make!
Perfect image!Perfectly Flat!
Very Small Dot pitch!
High resolutions and high refresh rates!

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When it´s bad, it´s still very good!
 
"best image"??? What technology gives the trinitron tube a better image--those two thin wires stretched across your picture? I beg to differ! My shadow mask monitor looks great even at its max pixel resolution.

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Go check the two side by side and then talk!

You haven´t done that, i have!
That´s the reason i bought a Sony G-200!
And no , i don´t notice the 2 lines anymore!
It´s just a matter of getting used to it!

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When it´s bad, it´s still very good!
 
Don't Harm yourself! :)

I've been using a TriniTron-descendant DiamondTron-tubed Belinea103070 17" monitor for more than 2 years and I am quite pleased with its performance and image quality. <b> AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT DISTURBING TO 'STARE' AT THOSE OMINOUS TWO HORIZONTAL LINES EVEN FOR THE FIRST TIME 'CAUSE YOU DON'T EVEN NOTICE IT, JUST IF YOU WANT SO! </b>

With that said, you may ask, why do I want to buy a 19" monitor. Well, I need a bigger monitor, that's all. And I'm pretty sure I'm going to choose a Tron-tubed monitor.

Anyway, I really don't understand you because <font color=red>Trinitron technology was introduced back in 1969.</font color=red> And as such, it's a most mature technology.

So let's get a thing or two right. The above-mentioned Sony's Trinitron tube technology, or Mitsubishi's similar version of the same technology, Diamondtron are more expensive than FST ('flatter, squarer tube') monitors, that's true. But as the front face of such tubes is perfectly flat vertically, and is still curved along the horizontal and therefore appears somewhat cylindrical it is <font color=red>still a significant improvement over FST tubes, as they tend to pick up reflections and glare much less, and the pictures they produce are much more pleasing to the eye.</font color=red> Of course, they also cost a little more than FST-based monitors, but often the two differ in price by no more than £30/$40-43 or so.

A step up from vertically flat tubes are those that are perfectly flat both vertically and horizontally. The main manufacturers of such tubes are, once again, Sony and Mitsubishi, with their FD Trinitron and Diamondtron NF tubes, and the picture quality of the monitors they are fitted in tends to be outstanding. There are few reflections and little in the way of geometric distortion visible to the eye. Perfectly flat technology adds a premium to the price of a monitor, of course, but this is rarely more than £50/$65-7 or so over the price of even an FST-based model.

Both the perfectly flat and vertically flat versions of the Trinitron and Diamondtron tubes use what's known as aperture grille technology, while conventional CRTs, including FST models, use what's termed shadow mask technology which you are so fond of. The internal technical differences between the two are beyond the scope of this forum, but in any case, <font color=red>the aperture grille tubes usually provide brighter, more vibrant colours than their conventional counterparts.</font color=red>

And if that's not enough, one or two manufacturers have tried to combine the best aspects of both aperture grille and conventional CRT technology, some with more success than others. NEC's CromaClear tubes, for example, offer more vibrant colours than conventional FST tubes, and lack the horizontal lines of aperture grille tubes. They are not nearly as flat as Sony or Mitsubishi aperture grille tubes, however, and are in fact shaped just like FST tubes. Samsung's Flatron tube technology, on the other hand, does away with aperture-grille horizontal lines yet maintains flatness, but it's debatable whether they provide the same brightness and colour vibrancy as Sony or Mitsubishi tubes.

I do hope I managed to clear up some dimness in your head.

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LordKaos: as for G400 check out <A HREF="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/frodo/labsitem_v3.php3?id=36540" target="_new">http://www.pcpro.co.uk/frodo/labsitem_v3.php3?id=36540</A>. There you can compare with Brilliance. I chose Philips based those reviews. Definetely worth checking!

<font color=green> bye, atrelio </font color=green><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by atrelio on 05/22/01 01:47 PM.</EM></FONT></P>