1920X1080 on 1920X1200 Monitors

[UserAlpha]

hi
i just want to know is it possible to run 1920X1080 on 1920X1200 native res monitors like dell u2410
i want use it in 1080 all the time is it okay or harmful
thanks

 

[ssddx]

you should always run monitors at native resolution. in your case 1920x1200.

if you choose to run at 1920x1080 what you will get is either:

A) black bars at the top and bottom of the screen in the case of movies, some games.

B) a picture which is stretched from the x1080 height to x1200 height which will have noticible stretching vertical stretching.

i don't think it would physically be harmful to the monitor but having everything stretched would look like crap. why did you buy a x1200 monitor if you wanted x1080?

 

[UserAlpha]

hi ssddx
i want a semi pro monitor for photoshop and anime studio works & all the good monitors are 16:10
but my wacom tablet is 16:9 so basically it's not cool !!
i want to know is it possible to use a 16:10 monitor as 16:9 or not

 

[MauveCloud]

Technically it's possible, for things like blu-ray that are recorded at 16:9. However, if you run such a monitor at 1920x1080 all the time, you probably paid extra for 120 pixels of vertical resolution you're not even using. You might wait for the Dell U2412HM (1920x1080, e-ips) or consider one of these 24-inch 1920x1080 MVA monitors:

Iiyama ProLite X2472HD
BenQ VW2420H
Acer B243HLCOymdr
Asus ML249H
BenQ EW2430
BenQ BL2400PT
BenQ EW2420
Acer S243HL
BenQ E24-5500

If you're willing to consider other sizes as well, or have other requirements, please fill in the template so we can provide better advice: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/59847-3-template-monitor-advice

 

[UserAlpha]

you are completely right MauveCloud but i can live with wasting some cash but in return having a good panel
prevoiusly i was going to buy Benq ew2340v and then i saw Asus PA-246Q which is dedicated to photography and graphic (P-IPS panel and 98% Adobe RGB and 102% NTSC support !! which is a dream for me in these price range)

i fill the template that you menthioned:




Approximate Purchase Date: next month
Budget Range: 400-600 US$

Monitor Usage from Most to Least Important: photoshop - Illustrator and 2D animation

Country of Origin: us

Brand Preferences: I always worked with cheap tn panels from samsung and LG but now i'm thinking about Asus Dell and HP monitors
Physical Size (Diagonal): 22-24
Resolution(s) You'll Consider: 1920x1080 would be great but if i can change 1920x1200 native res to 1920X1080 i can live with that too !
Inputs Needed: HDMI, DisplayPort, DVI

Panel Type(s) Desired: P-IPS or H-IPS

LED Backlight: i prefer ccfl backlit
Speakers: not necessary
Wall-Mount: no VESA sup needed

Stand Functions: (height, tilt, swivel, pivot) i prefer to have all those adjustments

Additional Comments: i hate white bleeding in dark backgrounds



thanks for helping me

 

[MauveCloud]

Looking at the TFT Central Monitor Panel Part Database, 1920x1080 is only available with BTNIII (not sure what that stands for, but the viewing angles are weak), TN Film, AMVA, cPVA, and e-IPS. I think a 2560x1440 monitor would be out of your price range.
With your requirements, that leaves you between the Asus PA246Q, the Dell U2410, and the HP LP2475W. Based on the color depths listed for them at prad.de, the Asus looks like it would be a 10-bit panel, except that the only true 10-bit panel of that size uses an RGB LED backlight, so it's probably 8-bit+AFRC (TFT central doesn't have the exact panel model number). The Dell uses 8-bit+AFRC, while the HP just uses 8 bits per color channel. The Dell (as well as the HP) has extra inputs for component and composite that you probably don't need, but it's around the same price. It's difficult to decide between the Asus PA246Q and the Dell U2410, as shown in this comparison review:
http://www.digitalversus.com/asus-pa246q-vs-dell-u2410-p974_10999_93.html

 

[ssddx]

i thought you already had a monitor bought and wanted to know if you could change the resolution. if you are in fact buying a new monitor then ...

how about this

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktop-monitors/lcd/pro-series/vp2365wb.htm

i own an older viewsonic vp201b 20.1 and it still works perfect (and 5 years old too!). a relaltive owns one that looks like this but i think its a 22" and its 1-2 years old now and still works fine.

it doesnt list what type of IPS panel it is on the offical spec sheet, you might have to look elsewhere for that info.

since you want 1920x1080, this monitor has that resolution. better off going this route then stretching or black bars. it is definitely worth giving viewsonic a look.

 

[UserAlpha]

tnx MauveCloud & ssddx
i check the cnet review and some more reviews
one of the benifits of asus is that it came out of the box fully calibrated

 

[MauveCloud]

According to TFT Central, the Viewsonic VP2365wb is e-IPS 6-bit + AFRC. Also, it doesn't have the displayport or hdmi that UserAlpha wanted.

 

[UserAlpha]

MauveCloud the comparing you posted was very depressing for me !
"Neither of our two test cases got above 700:1. wia"
it's very lame !
now i should start searching again !!

 

[MauveCloud]

You won't get an impressive contrast ratio from an IPS panel. If you want good static contrast, look at those MVA-based monitors I posted before (to get really high static contrast ratios, you need an emissive display like plasma, OLED, OLET, SED, or FED; unfortunately, with plasma, 1920x1080 is only available at 42 inches diagonal or bigger, and the others are still considered "next generation" display technologies)

 

[UserAlpha]

yes we have to wait many years for OLED to come on big screen sizes
i love it on samsung galaxy s

in conclusion
i should choose between richer colors (IPS) and richer contrast ratio (VA)
in this situation i would go with color accuracy

but i still can't make my mind on choosing asus , dell or hp

 

[UserAlpha]

i might wait for q3 for the new line of dell monitors to come out
this 2412hm sounds good

 

[dontknownotsure]

hi, go to wacom tablet property, select force proportion. end of story.

 

[UserAlpha]

yes that's do the tick somehow but in cost of losing some tablet's surface