2070 vs 2080

[landonshah]

I’m looking to create my first pc, but I’m stuck deciding on the graphics card. I want to get an rtx series card because they are the newest technologies, but I don’t know if I should get the 2070 or spend $300 more on a 2080. Is the performance worth it? What does the 2070 best compare to in the 10-series cards?

 

[SubaruWRX244]

GTX 2070 is basically the 1080. RTX 2060 is basically at 1070 TI performance. RTX 2080 is a GTX 1080 TI.
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[TechyInAZ]

It all depends on your preferences, what resolution are you playing at, do you want to play on the highest quality graphics possible?

The 2070 is a good buy for 1080P ultra at a high frame rate and 1440P at high settings for a high frame rate or ultra for a average frame rate like 60fps.

The 2080 is absolutely overkill for 1080P and great for 1440P (unless you want to play games with ray tracing at max quality then 1080P is not overkill).

 

[mjbn1977]

I have a RTX 2080 and I play in 1440p. My goal is that I want to play all titles with Ultra settings in 1440p and be always over 60fps most of the time. The RTX 2080 is delivering that. But its tight.....Kingdom Come Deliverance and Assassins Creed Odyssey drop sometimes under 60fps. With other games its around 100fps (Shadow of the Tomb Raider and Far Cry 5) and other around 144fps (Wolfenstein II, Battlefield 1). For the latter games the difference between RTX 2070 and 2080 wouldn't be a big deal, but for games like Kingom Come and AC : O it might. I would assume that you will not hit 60fps Ultra in 1440p with the RTX 2070 without tweaking video settings a little in some titles. That said, both cards are good and if I would buy again I might go with the RTX 2070 because of cost.

I would recommend the following.....if the extra $300 for the 15% to 25% more fps performance (about 6-12 fps in Assassins Creed Origins) feel worth the money and doesn't really hurt your wallet too much, go with the RTX 2080. But you have any little doubts about spending that much money for the little extra performance, don't worry, buy the RTX 2070 and be happy. You still get an awesome card....

In regards to your other question. The RTX 2070 sits exactly between the GTX 1080Ti and the GTX 1080. About 12 to 15% slower the GTX 1080Ti and about 12 to 15 % faster than the GTX 1080.

The RTX 2080 is slightly faster than the GTX 1080Ti (about 3%).

 

[tiaan_strauss]

Hi

I have an RTX 2070 & its a decent card.

2070: 1080P max settings high refresh rates 144hz + OR 1440p gaming with medium to high settings 60FPS avg depending on game.

2080: 1440p high to max settings high refresh rates depending on game & some 4K gaming maybe medium settings or something.

What you get really depends on what resolution you want to game at & what refresh rate.

The 2080 is better suited to enthusiasts & the 2070 is better suited to the average mid to high end gamer out there.

 

[landonshah]

SubaraWRX is that used? How is that possible? Also, I prefer the highest refresh rate possible, but it seems 1440p is the future and 1080p is starting to get old.

 

[Tiebar90]

I have a gtx 1080 and play a 32 inch curver 1440p 144hz monitor. I get 90-110fps on games like BF5. I also play VR with absolutely no problems.

Just something to consider when getting the BEST CARD...mine is still a 10 series

 

[mjbn1977]

I have a gtx 1080 and play a 32 inch curver 1440p 144hz monitor. I get 90-110fps on games like BF5. I also play VR with absolutely no problems.

Just something to consider when getting the BEST CARD...mine is still a 10 series

That's true. But he will get more frames/sec with the 2070 and even more with the 2080. The 1080 is a good card, but you probably will not get 60fps in 1440p in Ultra in Assassins Creed Odyssey or Kingdom Come Deliverance.

With the 2080 I can get the 144hz in Battlefield 5 to take full advantage of my 144hz monitore (but not with ray tracing, then its only about 70fps).

 

[Tiebar90]

I have a gtx 1080 and play a 32 inch curver 1440p 144hz monitor. I get 90-110fps on games like BF5. I also play VR with absolutely no problems.

Just something to consider when getting the BEST CARD...mine is still a 10 series

That's true. But he will get more frames/sec with the 2070 and even more with the 2080. The 1080 is a good card, but you probably will not get 60fps in 1440p in Ultra in Assassins Creed Odyssey or Kingdom Come Deliverance.

With the 2080 I can get the 144hz in Battlefield 5 to take full advantage of my 144hz monitore (but not with ray tracing, then its only about 70fps).

no you will not be able to get 60+ FPS on ultra in assassins creed. if that is the3 game he is interested in playing then I would go with the RTX 20s. But if he is like me and plays mostly games like BF5, PUBG, Rocketleague, and many others it will be cheaper and still suffice.

Because you can buy the "best" graphics card but truly, its not the best for long and its WAY more money.

Also, are we talking 1080p or 1440p? Because that will make a large difference with many games.

 

[landonshah]

I play similar games to tiebar, with the addition of Fortnite, but I’ve never had a game be able to run more than 60fps so idek what it feels like. I would like more FPS and I’m fine with 1080p if it means a large difference in frames, but currently I only use a 75hz monitor with an Xbox One X. Also is it possible to disable ray tracing in game settings or is that only available in the Nvidia settings?

 

[landonshah]

I would only disable it in the games like BF5 because it cripples performance

 

[Tiebar90]

I play similar games to tiebar, but I’ve never had a game be able to run more than 60fps so idek what it feels like. I would like more FPS and I’m fine with 1080p if it means a large difference in frames, but currently I only use a 75hz monitor with an Xbox One X. Also is it possible to disable ray tracing in game settings or is that only available in the Nvidia settings?

The games I play with 1080p will be fine. I play them on 1440p fine. You will certainly get more then 60FPS on both.

And I didnt disable anything in BF5. Everything is on and on ULTRA and i get 90-110FPS on BF5.

Assassins creed is like the GTA 5 of its time. Everyone is trying to buy parts to say "i play this game with this fps on this setting"

If you have the money, go for it. If you dont need that much, then dont do it.

 

[mjbn1977]

Yes, you can adjust the Ray Tracing settings in the Battlefield 5 video settings. You can choose low, medium, high, ultra. You need to play the game in DX12 for ray tracing. The RTX 2070 can handle Battlefield 5 pretty well with ray tracing (low with 1440p for 60+fps, and high or ultra in 1080p for 60+fps).

In Battlefied I use Ray Tracing for the War Stories single player campaign. It really looks fantastic and you can enjoy it more, since you can pause once in while and go AWWWWW. In multiplayer I turn it off....

 

[Tiebar90]

Yes, you can adjust the Ray Tracing settings in the Battlefield 5 video settings. You can choose low, medium, high, ultra. You need to play the game in DX12 for ray tracing. The RTX 2070 can handle Battlefield 5 pretty well with ray tracing (low with 1440p for 60+fps, and high or ultra in 1080p for 60+fps).

In Battlefied I use Ray Tracing for the War Stories single player campaign. It really looks fantastic and you can enjoy it more, since you can pause once in while and go AWWWWW. In multiplayer I turn it off....

where do you see this Ray Tracing? I have everything turned on and on ultra in my settings and see no ray tracing
dx12 on too.
with my 32inch 1440p 144hz mointor with 90-100fps

 

[TechyInAZ]

Yes, you can adjust the Ray Tracing settings in the Battlefield 5 video settings. You can choose low, medium, high, ultra. You need to play the game in DX12 for ray tracing. The RTX 2070 can handle Battlefield 5 pretty well with ray tracing (low with 1440p for 60+fps, and high or ultra in 1080p for 60+fps).

In Battlefied I use Ray Tracing for the War Stories single player campaign. It really looks fantastic and you can enjoy it more, since you can pause once in while and go AWWWWW. In multiplayer I turn it off....

where do you see this Ray Tracing? I have everything turned on and on ultra in my settings and see no ray tracing
dx12 on too.
with my 32inch 1440p 144hz mointor with 90-100fps

You have an RTX card? Your previous comments said you have a 1080 which does not support Ray Tracing.

 

[Tiebar90]

Yes, you can adjust the Ray Tracing settings in the Battlefield 5 video settings. You can choose low, medium, high, ultra. You need to play the game in DX12 for ray tracing. The RTX 2070 can handle Battlefield 5 pretty well with ray tracing (low with 1440p for 60+fps, and high or ultra in 1080p for 60+fps).

In Battlefied I use Ray Tracing for the War Stories single player campaign. It really looks fantastic and you can enjoy it more, since you can pause once in while and go AWWWWW. In multiplayer I turn it off....

where do you see this Ray Tracing? I have everything turned on and on ultra in my settings and see no ray tracing
dx12 on too.
with my 32inch 1440p 144hz mointor with 90-100fps

You have an RTX card? Your previous comments said you have a 1080 which does not support Ray Tracing.

No i have a 1080. I was asking about that specific setting under BF5.
Since I dont have a RTX card is the setting absent from my list under video settings then?

 

[mjbn1977]

I don't know. I only played this game with a RTX card. The setting is definitely there. There are to toggles under the advance video settings. One on top to turn it on and off, right where the toggle for DX11/DX12 is and one on the very bottom of the settings where you set "low, medium, high, ultra". It's really existing. My wife and I just looked at the Ray Tracing reflections in all those puddles in the Tirailleur war story. We played around with the different ray tracing quality settings to see if I can make out differences between them.

Are you on the latest version of Windows 10? you need the fall update (version 1809). Otherwise your Windows is missing the DirectX Raytracing driver/features.

 

[Tiebar90]

I don't know. I only played this game with a RTX card. The setting is definitely there. There are to toggles under the advance video settings. One on top to turn it on and off, right where the toggle for DX11/DX12 is and one on the very bottom of the settings where you set "low, medium, high, ultra". It's really existing. My wife and I just looked at the Ray Tracing reflections in all those puddles in the Tirailleur war story. We played around with the different ray tracing quality settings to see if I can make out differences between them.

well damn....those settings arent there for me.

thats pretty damn cool that it wont even show up with a gtx1080.

........TIME TO UPGRADE?! :lol:

Nah for real though its not worth the extra money compared to what I do and get from my 1080

but still pretty cool.

so OP needs to decide whats best and worth spending money on

 

[mjbn1977]

I don't know. I only played this game with a RTX card. The setting is definitely there. There are to toggles under the advance video settings. One on top to turn it on and off, right where the toggle for DX11/DX12 is and one on the very bottom of the settings where you set "low, medium, high, ultra". It's really existing. My wife and I just looked at the Ray Tracing reflections in all those puddles in the Tirailleur war story. We played around with the different ray tracing quality settings to see if I can make out differences between them.

well damn....those settings arent there for me.

thats pretty damn cool that it wont even show up with a gtx1080.

........TIME TO UPGRADE?! :lol:

Nah for real though its not worth the extra money compared to what I do and get from my 1080

but still pretty cool.

so OP needs to decide whats best and worth spending money on

Are you on Windows 10 version 1809 (october update)? Without that, no ray tracing. Also, why would you even try with a GTX1080ti. That card has no ray tracing cores and will have not even 1/10 of the raytracing power than the RTX cards. You wouldn't even get 15fps with raytracing on in 1080p.

 

[Tiebar90]

I don't know. I only played this game with a RTX card. The setting is definitely there. There are to toggles under the advance video settings. One on top to turn it on and off, right where the toggle for DX11/DX12 is and one on the very bottom of the settings where you set "low, medium, high, ultra". It's really existing. My wife and I just looked at the Ray Tracing reflections in all those puddles in the Tirailleur war story. We played around with the different ray tracing quality settings to see if I can make out differences between them.

well damn....those settings arent there for me.

thats pretty damn cool that it wont even show up with a gtx1080.

........TIME TO UPGRADE?! :lol:

Nah for real though its not worth the extra money compared to what I do and get from my 1080

but still pretty cool.

so OP needs to decide whats best and worth spending money on

Are you on Windows 10 version 1809 (october update)? Without that, no ray tracing.

If i was to try and get only 15fps I would turn it off because spending another $499 isnt worth that for me.

The whole point of my posts in here is give another insight to someone who plays certain games(which op said he played games like me) and to show him its still possible to get a gtx1080 and play 1440p on current games.

 

[mjbn1977]

of course he can play 1440p in current games with GTX 1080, so can he also with a GTX 1060. I played even played 1440p on my old GTX970 for about 1 year and played through Battlefield 1, Dragon Age Inquisition, and Wolfenstein 2 in 1440 p on the GTX970. Its just a matter of graphic settings. But usually we talking what you need to have 60+ fps on ultra settings as a reference. And when you buy a new card you also want to look a little bit into the future as well. Also, he clearly stated in his first post that he wants to go either with RTX 2070 or 2080 because he wants to use the new technology and wanted to know about the difference in regards to performance between the two.

 

[TechyInAZ]

Yeah on non RTX cards the RTX option should completely disappear. (Same with other Nvidia tech like PhysX, physX would completely disappear on a non physX capable card instead of being greyed out.)