2080 high fps really bad micro stutters, have tried alot 144 hz monitor

[jackcornblatt]

Hi so my past two builds have had really bad stuttering going on and i dont know why

I switched 2080 and replaced it with a new 2080 and still the same problems so not gpu
cleared GPU drivers and reinstalled drivers
got a diagnosis at micro center they couldn't figure it out
reinstalled windows
edit control panel settings
windows tweaker turning security settings off
tried vsync


Once i fixed the problem for 3 days, i realised that adaptive sync was turned on on my monitor so i turned it off and it was very smooth. 3 days later it went back to being laggy not smooth and also had input delay. I tried turning setting off and on but no luck

CPU:8700k
MB: Asus Z390e
GPU: EVGA 2080 XC ULTRA
RAM: 3200mhz corsair RGB PRO 16 GB 2x8
SSD Samsung 860 Evo
Monitor: Asus mg248q
power supply: 750 gold evga

please help this has been going on for months and i am so frustrated

 

[boju]

If theres no fps limiter in game can use msi Afterburner or Nvidia Inspector.

If you get stuck trying to find where the fps limiter setting is see youtube for tutorials.

 

[QwerkyPengwen]

Why stretched? Why not full 1080?
Switch to full 1080 resolution.
And if you can't limit fps in game, try raising graphic settings until you are below 144fps.

 

[jackcornblatt]

Why stretched? Why not full 1080?
Switch to full 1080 resolution.
And if you can't limit fps in game, try raising graphic settings until you are below 144fps.

I like it its how competitve players play

 

[boju]

Odd resolution but if that's how pro's play it fair enough. Shouldn't affect gsync/freesync.

With gsync setup, try enable vsync, not async. If still no go limit fps yourself.

 

[boju]

Another couple of things to make sure of.

Win10's Game bar is switched off. Mainly to stop Dvr recording as it records your gameplay automatically in the background and discards the recording if you don't do anything with it. Also associated with gamebar is fullscreen optimisation which is a blend between borderless window and fullscreen and can muck up gsync/freesync.

If using Geforce Experience to optimise games, i'd advise against it. It can pick silly settings for your games if use it to optimise.

 

[jackcornblatt]

Another couple of things to make sure of.

Win10's Game bar is switched off. Mainly to stop Dvr recording as it records your gameplay automatically in the background and discards the recording if you don't do anything with it. Also associated with gamebar is fullscreen optimisation which is a blend between borderless window and fullscreen and can muck up gsync/freesync.

If using Geforce Experience to optimise games, i'd advise against it. It can pick silly settings for your games if use it to optimise.

so do i need to stop the service for game bar i already have it turned off in windows settings and for fortnite i have disable full screen optimization checked off

 

[boju]

That's fine how you have done it.

 

[jackcornblatt]

That's fine how you have done it.

ok maybe this is it i have 0 to 1 percent disk usage when playing fortnite ????

 

[boju]

There would be some drive usage, not as much with 16GB ram and since you have an ssd it shouldn't matter too much if there was more. I don't think thats the problem.

Have you limited fps yet?

 

[jackcornblatt]

There would be some drive usage, not as much with 16GB ram and since you have an ssd it shouldn't matter too much if there was more. I don't think thats the problem.

Have you limited fps yet?

yea limiting didnt help it feelt okay now with vsync turned off and gsync on but still some stutter

 

[jackcornblatt]

is virtualaztion something i want enabled for my cpu?

 

[boju]

Not really.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3678370/turn-virtualization-technology.html

Try 1080p and see how it performs then. Try increase ingame resolution scaling on top of 1080p as well.

The idea behind freesync/gsync is within the fps range there shouldn't be any tearing + smoother gameplay without input lag that using only vsync introduces. With vsync off i can imagine you're getting much more fps over the range. That causes frames to split and drop seeming to look choppy.

If you are getting a lot of fps, cpu needs to pre-render each one and too many can drive up cpu usage. Higher cpu usage close to max can cause stutters especially in multiplayer where more cpu recourse is needed. So it can have a negative affect having too many fps.

 

[boju]

How to monitor usages for various components such as cpu, gpu, ram, pagefile, etc + temps, there's a wide variety of stats you can have shown on screen while you play.

[video="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUS3zx0DlHg"][/video]

 

[jackcornblatt]

Not really.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3678370/turn-virtualization-technology.html

Try 1080p and see how it performs then. Try increase ingame resolution scaling on top of 1080p as well.

The idea behind freesync/gsync is within the fps range there shouldn't be any tearing + smoother gameplay without input lag that using only vsync introduces. With vsync off i can imagine you're getting much more fps over the range. That causes frames to split and drop seeming to look choppy.

If you are getting a lot of fps, cpu needs to pre-render each one and too many can drive up cpu usage. Higher cpu usage close to max can cause stutters especially in multiplayer where more cpu recourse is needed. So it can have a negative affect having too many fps.

ok if i were to monitor usage would u want to look at anything in paticualr

 

[boju]

cpu usage isn't too high (98~100%) at the resolution you're playing at while playing multiplayer. If it's less then i couldn't see cpu being the issue but we don't know that yet.

 

[jackcornblatt]

yea still stutter at 1920 maybe worse

 

[boju]

dunno man, there's different types of stutter, if only i could see it i might have a better idea. Other than that there's not much else to suggest.

 

[jackcornblatt]

dunno man, there's different types of stutter, if only i could see it i might have a better idea. Other than that there's not much else to suggest.

possibly found problem. pci device and sm bus controller dont have drivers in device manager and are unable to update

 

[boju]

https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-Z390-E-GAMING/HelpDesk_Download/

download and install chipset driver. Did you do that already because you were asking about these drivers earlier, did you forget?

Always restart pc after installing drivers no matter how small.

 

[jackcornblatt]

https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-Z390-E-GAMING/HelpDesk_Download/

download and install chipset driver. Did you do that already because you were asking about these drivers earlier, did you forget?

Always restart pc after installing drivers no matter how small.

no i did but i just installed driver booster and installed missing drivers and now my game is even worrrsee

 

[jackcornblatt]

i feel like i should have installed driver booster lol it made my shit worse

 

[jackcornblatt]

do i need to download each driver on a seperate boot up

 

[boju]

i feel like i should have installed driver booster lol it made my shit worse

Not a good idea using those programs. We don't know if thats the cause of it or not, reinstalling Windows is on my mind after learning of this

do i need to download each driver on a seperate boot up

Would probably be good to do so if you have the patience. Probably not necessary long as there's a restart at the end.

 

[jackcornblatt]

i jsut restored to before downloading driver should i install reinstall windows what is the proper way to download drivers

 

[boju]

Restore is fine.

Just get drivers from Asus link i gave, all drivers needed for the motherboard are there. Chipset, audio, lan and sata are most critical. Other drivers are general.

Graphics driver from https://www.geforce.com/drivers