Question 2080 TI Stutter During Intense Graphics

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Hey All,

Recently I put together a PC for the first time in a long time, everything with it for the most part was perfect, Until I loaded up Metro 2033 and noticed some issues pop up. I would tend to get stutter towards the start of intense graphics, even though running around / idling in metro on max settings 1440/ v sync on yields 100 frames+ as soon as something intensive pops up it will stutter Briefly or moderately depending on the situation. During entering the Water Chapel in 2033 is when it was at its worst, this scenario had a lot of shadows and whatnot. As soon as I entered I would get frame drop and stutter. I took pictures Of my MSI afterburner and power drops along with fan speed ect. Am I hitting a bottleneck or hitting some other underlying issue with my PSU? Vram Cap?

I tried quite a few things such as

DDU- Into fresh Driver install
fresh windows install 1903
Turning off overclock
Direct 11x vs 12x

Pics Of MSI Afterburner read
https://imgur.com/a/pL5Yt8N
View: https://imgur.com/a/pL5Yt8N


Hwinfo Log
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=04687777702202684237
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=00319417781839663669


My system parts are,
Mobo-
833475 GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX
Processor-
831370 INTEL INTEL I5-9600K BOX @ 4.6
Graphics-
Evga Black Gaming 2080 TI
Psu-
854067 IPSG 750W 80+ GOLD FULLY PSU
Ram-
348201 IPSG 16GB 2X8GB DDR4 3200 KIT
SSD-
860312 INLAND 1TB I PREMIUM NVME SSD
Monitor
-942433 MSI 27" LED MAG271CQR MONIT/G 1440p

At this point, I am not sure what else to try.
 
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Enable freesync on your monitor, disable vsync, go into nvidia control panel and sut up gysnc, check off box enable gsync, makesure enable full screen dot is checked off. Down the menu it will say enable setting for selected display. Make sure that is checked. Hit apply and see if it clears up the stuttering.
 
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Fix_that_Glitch said:
Enable freesync on your monitor, disable vsync, go into nvidia control panel and sut up gysnc, check off box enable gsync, makesure enable full screen dot is checked off. Down the menu it will say enable setting for selected display. Make sure that is checked. Hit apply and see if it clears up the stuttering.
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I did try this it still had the same issues, massive random drop
 
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Is there a txt file available, and not a comma delineated spreadsheet ?

Knowing what background software (non OS , non games) could be helpful.

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Some things to try:

For Metro, run without PhysX.

Try disabling hyperthreading/ symmetric multitasking: yes, this sucks, but def helps with smoothness in some things here for me on an 8700k (like MadVR). YMMV

Some things to try to reduce CPU usage:

Reinstall your Nvidia drivers with only the graphics driver, and IF NEEDED, the HDMI sound and PhysX. Do NOT install GeForce Experience or 3D Vision items.. It's supposed to be able to override your settings for "optimized" ones, but optimized on their test hardware, not your hardware. This item also scans your drive for said games, taking up resources. This will also get rid of one source of background video recording. Do not install the 3D driver stuff unless you are specifically using it (like for Oculus Rift or similar)

Make sure to set "favor performance" in your Nvidia settings

Disable Win10's built in background video recorder.

Go into advanced power settings, set performance mode. Use the advanced properties to further set CPU min/Max states to 100%, and disable PCIe link state power management.

Clear your standby memory list/cache, say with something like Intelligent Background List Cleaner

Disable Cloud saves and Synchronization in your Gaming Clients (Steam, Origin, Uplay, etc)

Disable ALL overlays in your gaming clients, Discord, etc

Disable OneDrive if you can live with that.

Turn off storage sense

Go to your settings tab if you haven't already and look at all options under all headers. Turn off functions you don't need.

Delivery Optimization is usually on. Seems to treat your PC as a torrent source for Win updates. Turn it off.

Some people have reported success with using Utimate Windows Tweaker using the "Security and Privacy" section, then the "Privacy" tab settings. I prefer a more granular approach but ymmv.

Services to consider disabling: (Some telemetry related, ymmv depending on your particular usage scenarios)

Anything Adobe depending on usage or setting to manual
NVidia telemetry (using autoruns is helpful here also)
Connected User Experiences
Delivery Optimization
dmwappushsvc
DNSClient (esp if running a large HOSTS file. If disabled, will disable Edge and probably the store as well)
Geolocation Service
Microsoft (R) Diagnostics Hub
Microsoft App-V Client
Net Tcp Port Sharing Service
Program Compatibility Assistant
Remote Registry
Routing and Remote Access
Shared PC account management
Smart Card
Superfetch (if using an SSD)
User Experience Virtualization
Windows Biometric Service
Windows Search (big hog that runs in the background)

Use Autoruns from Microsofts Sysinternal Utilities to see what is being autostarted. Many autostart items will NOT be listed conventionally in Startup. See what is being started up and what items specific to your system might be dumpable.

Disable Live tiles that you don't need.
Disable Background functionality for Apps that you don't need or Don't need them doing that.

Turn PreFetch off: (Requires going into the registry)

How invasive is your Antivirus? Many functions you can turn off in "helpful" all in one suites. YMMV of course depending on your usage habits. I run Avast for instance, but ONLY run the Web and File Shield because of my browsing habits/computer usage. Everything you don't need is background churn.

Using a program like W10Privacy to start turning off telemetry churn that windows only gives you SOME options available to turn it off. Programs such as these help so you don't have to go hunting a bunch of stuff in Group Policy Editor or dig in the registry.
Read the choices it offers though, some items you may want to keep on, even among the green items in W10Privacy. Run this one in Admin mode, and give it a bit to present the interface (it scans throughout the system 1st to find current settings before giving you the tweak menus) It only seems like it's locked up at first.

Not sure if it is the program you are using, but you can try Nvidia Profile Inspector to set limits either globally, on on a per title basis for things like frame rate limiting, etc. Settings best for one game may not be the best for another. Afterburner is nice, but overhead as well.
Settings created in NVidia Profile Inspector need to be reentered after every driver update btw.

WiFi internet: run system on wired if possible and disable the Wifi on the computer.

Internet traffic shaping software of any kind.?..uninstall.

Try disabling the High Precision Event Timer.
 
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cherry blossoms said:
Is there a txt file available, and not a comma delineated spreadsheet ?

Knowing what background software (non OS , non games) could be helpful.


Try disabling the High Precision Event Timer.
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Will attempt this however after trying the first step it doesn't let me install the driver alone. it will pop up with this error
https://imgur.com/a/rgjOOJV
View: https://imgur.com/a/rgjOOJV


Antivirus is off for now
Delivery opt is off
storage sense off
one drive closed
Advanced Power settings all set
 
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Would use DDU to uninstall your current NVidia driver and reinstall. (Also running an EVGA 2080ti here) That error message used to pop up if you had mixed up 32 bit/64 bit drivers. IF downloading manually from NVidia, the default under manual driver selection is for notebooks, not regular 20 series.. Literally just installed 430.86 here from a manual driver download
to check. No errors encountered. Did not install Geforce experience or the usbc driver.
 
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cherry blossoms said:
Would use DDU to uninstall your current NVidia driver and reinstall. (Also running an EVGA 2080ti here) That error message used to pop up if you had mixed up 32 bit/64 bit drivers. IF downloading manually from NVidia, the default under manual driver selection is for notebooks, not regular 20 series.. Literally just installed 430.86 here from a manual driver download
to check. No errors encountered. Did not install Geforce experience or the usbc driver.
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Heres exactly what I am selecting and downloading.
https://imgur.com/a/EKnKnRe
View: https://imgur.com/a/EKnKnRe
 
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It appears you are using a DCH instead of standard driver install?

If you have your intel graphics turned on in the background, and have downloaded the latest drivers, you may have a DCH framework.

Which NVIDIA drivers did/does windows automatic driver update attempt /did install?

Do you have the NVidia control panel? DCH NVidia install may need to get the control panel from the microsoft store if not already installed, found here I believe:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/n...nf8h0h7wmlt?rtc=1&activetab=pivot:overviewtab

In the NVIDIA control panel, look under Help/System Information: See what pops up under: Driver type
 
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cherry blossoms said:
It appears you are using a DCH instead of standard driver install?

If you have your intel graphics turned on in the background, and have downloaded the latest drivers, you may have a DCH framework.

Which NVIDIA drivers did/does windows automatic driver update attempt /did install?

Do you have the NVidia control panel? DCH NVidia install may need to get the control panel from the microsoft store if not already installed, found here I believe:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/n...nf8h0h7wmlt?rtc=1&activetab=pivot:overviewtab

In the NVIDIA control panel, look under Help/System Information: See what pops up under: Driver type
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I do indeed have the control panel sense I ended up installing experiance again to keep testing, heres my sys info pics
https://imgur.com/a/Fl0RTdL
View: https://imgur.com/a/Fl0RTdL
 
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I noticed on your afterburner pic the driver version says 419. Can you check the bottom and make sure you have 430 enabled? On afterburner, put voltage control, power limit, and temp limit all the way to the right, max settings. Then see how it runs during gaming.
 
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Fix_that_Glitch said:
Also I know it's a pain but can you post your nvidia control panel settings? Maybe we can find something in there. And the resolutions and refresh rate 144hz match in in the change resolution section of Nvidia control panel?
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No worries, Find attached below. I did end up getting the drivers installed separately without Geforce experience, As cherry Mentioned it was DCH so I needed to get that specifically. I tried the voltage settings while playing it did still dip here and there.
Monitor/nvidia settings are both correct. If this is just part of the card, I was thinking about just returning it and getting something higher end with better cooling or something along those lines.

https://imgur.com/a/kay3oGd
View: https://imgur.com/a/kay3oGd
 
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Would suggest running other games and seeing if you can live with the results. 144hz for the Metro games is a hard bar to clear at 1440p. The goal is to get the stutters to a minimum.

As a FreeSync monitor (not Freesync II ), you can try forcing g-sync manually for it in the control panel, and see if it helps the smoothness with vsync (provided you are using displayport) YMMV as this monitor wasn't certified by NVidia for this, but they do allow you to override and try.

Go to NVidia control panel
Under display, near the bottom for the options "Setup G-Sync"
Check the box for "Enable G-sync, G-sync compatible). Choose full screen or windowed. Fullscreen generally better .
You would probably be best to run the games FULL screen , and not full screen windowed. A few games run better in full Screen windowed however from postings I have seen online.

You may have to disable overdrive (if enabled) on the monitor if you get flickering

It won't be as smooth as true G-sync, but worth trying. I see mixed results reported by people

If going this route, you may want to try Nvidia Profile Inspector and set a lower max refresh rate to help frame pacing. Again, YMMV
 
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