[SOLVED] 25,000 (PHP) or 500 (USD) Gaming PC Suggestion.

[ken.dogcio]

As the title states. I want to build a gaming pc (Just an entry level with upgrade path in the next 3-5 months)

Approximate Purchase Date: December 15-20, 2019.

Budget Range: 25,000 PHP or 500 USD

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Browsing, Documents possible Streaming.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes, but this is not included in the budget.

Parts to Upgrade: All new.

Do you need to buy OS: No.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Dynaquest / PC Hub (Or if you have any other suggestion that is in the Philippines)

Location: Metro Manila, Quezon City, Philippines.

Parts Preferences: AMD CPU

Overclocking: Maybe a bit

SLI or Crossfire: No.

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Ijust need an entry level where i can play decent games (LoL, Dota2, GTA5, NBA 2K20) with upgrade path on the next 3-4months.


Thank you in advanced everyone!

 

[ken.dogcio]

This is what i have in mind:

Component	Price in PHP	Prince in USD
Ryzen 3 3200G	5000	98.40
Asus Prime B450M-A	4140	81.48
TForce Delta RGB 2666 2x8	3800	74.79
Adata XPG SX8200 Pro	2460	48.41
Seasonic M12II Evo 520w	3590	70.65
Tecware M3 TG	1650	32.47
Total	20640 PHP	406.21

Kindly comment.

 

[Phaaze88]

Ouch! Those prices on DynaquestPC are something else... I was forced to make compromises.
Here's what I came up with in the US market:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($78.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($56.99 @ Amazon)
Case: RIOTORO CR400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $450.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-11 03:02 EST-0500

Here's after shopping through DynaquestPC:
Cpu: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 4-Core 8-Thread 3.5-3.9 ghz 4mb 65W (₱6,500.00)
Motherboard: MSI B450M Pro M2 (₱4,200.00)
Memory: Gskill Ripjaws V 16GB Dual DDR4 3200Mhz (F4-3200C16D-16GVKB) (₱4,250.00)
Storage: Seagate 1TB Barracuda ST1000DM010 (SATA 6 Gb/s) (₱1,990.00) [Get a SSD as a OS only drive later on.]
Case: Tecware Nexus C USB 3.0 (Black) (₱1,900.00)
Power Supply: FSP Hydro MX 550W 80Plus Bronze PSU (₱3,520.00)
Total: ₱22360.00


The allowed budget was far too tight to accommodate a discreet gpu, so you'll have to roll with the current strongest APU until then.
About the Ryzen 2400g/3400g APUs: they'll handle e-sports titles with ease. More modern games or AAA titles will be playable on low settings - some can be ran on medium.

This is what i have in mind:

Component	Price in PHP	Prince in USD
Ryzen 3 3200G	5000	98.40
Asus Prime B450M-A	4140	81.48
TForce Delta RGB 2666 2x8	3800	74.79
Adata XPG SX8200 Pro	2460	48.41
Seasonic M12II Evo 520w	3590	70.65
Tecware M3 TG	1650	32.47
Total	20640 PHP	406.21

Kindly comment.

As for what you're considering:
Cpu: Ryzen 3200g only has 4 threads. That's very limiting and outdated for running more modern titles. You'll find yourself needing to upgrade from that very early...
Memory: 2666mhz is on the slow end for Ryzen cpus, which performs best with faster kits, preferably 3200-3600 for simple plug-n-play.
Storage: M.2s are pricy - you'll do just fine with a SATA SSD - and you'll use up 256GBs in the blink of an eye...
Power supply: It was good for its time, but that unit is ancient. Something newer and at least as good can be had... if you can get in touch with the right people.
Case: Closed-off front panels may look nice, but they come at a cost; sacrificing overall cooling performance for aesthetics. This case will do just fine while you don't have a discreet gpu installed. Once you do though, you may find your future gpu with temperature problems...

 

[ken.dogcio]

Ouch! Those prices on DynaquestPC are something else... I was forced to make compromises.
Here's what I came up with in the US market:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($78.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($56.99 @ Amazon)
Case: RIOTORO CR400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $450.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-11 03:02 EST-0500

Here's after shopping through DynaquestPC:
Cpu: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 4-Core 8-Thread 3.5-3.9 ghz 4mb 65W (₱6,500.00)
Motherboard: MSI B450M Pro M2 (₱4,200.00)
Memory: Gskill Ripjaws V 16GB Dual DDR4 3200Mhz (F4-3200C16D-16GVKB) (₱4,250.00)
Storage: Seagate 1TB Barracuda ST1000DM010 (SATA 6 Gb/s) (₱1,990.00) [Get a SSD as a OS only drive later on.]
Case: Tecware Nexus C USB 3.0 (Black) (₱1,900.00)
Power Supply: FSP Hydro MX 550W 80Plus Bronze PSU (₱3,520.00)
Total: ₱22360.00


The allowed budget was far too tight to accommodate a discreet gpu, so you'll have to roll with the current strongest APU until then.
About the Ryzen 2400g/3400g APUs: they'll handle e-sports titles with ease. More modern games or AAA titles will be playable on low settings - some can be ran on medium.



As for what you're considering:
Cpu: Ryzen 3200g only has 4 threads. That's very limiting and outdated for running more modern titles. You'll find yourself needing to upgrade from that very early...
Memory: 2666mhz is on the slow end for Ryzen cpus, which performs best with faster kits, preferably 3200-3600 for simple plug-n-play.
Storage: M.2s are pricy - you'll do just fine with a SATA SSD - and you'll use up 256GBs in the blink of an eye...
Power supply: It was good for its time, but that unit is ancient. Something newer and at least as good can be had... if you can get in touch with the right people.
Case: Closed-off front panels may look nice, but they come at a cost; sacrificing overall cooling performance for aesthetics. This case will do just fine while you don't have a discreet gpu installed. Once you do though, you may find your future gpu with temperature problems...

Thank you very much for this.


I have considered every comment you made.

And with those i have a question.

Is there a big difference between SSD and M2?

 

[Spaceghaze]

Thank you very much for this.


I have considered every comment you made.

And with those i have a question.

Is there a big difference between SSD and M2?

NVMe SSD that use M2 can be 5 to 6 times faster then a SATA SSD, depending on the make and model.

That said SATA SSD is still very fast, and if you are used to normal HDD's it will be all ready like night and day.

Since you mention that you will be upgrading further in the following months, Phaaze88's suggestion to for the 1 GB Sata in the beggning is a smart move. Get a NVMe later.

 

[ken.dogcio]

NVMe SSD that use M2 can be 5 to 6 times faster then a SATA SSD, depending on the make and model.

That said SATA SSD is still very fast, and if you are used to normal HDD's it will be all ready like night and day.

Since you mention that you will be upgrading further in the following months, Phaaze88's suggestion to for the 1 GB Sata in the beggning is a smart move. Get a NVMe later.

Im thinking of getting NVMe SSD 256GB now for OS and my Main Games (LoL,Dota2) and a month after will be getting a 500gb SATA SSD.

I dont need much drive since i will not be saving files on this. Do you think this is good?

 

[Spaceghaze]

Im thinking of getting NVMe SSD 256GB now for OS and my Main Games (LoL,Dota2) and a month after will be getting a 500gb SATA SSD.

I dont need much drive since i will not be saving files on this. Do you think this is good?

You should be able to fit win 10(up to 50GB) , LoL(20-25 GB) and Dota2(20-25 GB) on it fine, but also depending on what other stuff you will want to install, so the 256 GB can be used up pretty fast.

Actually i have not played league and dota for a long time, so maybe it is even bigger now. But my guess, probably not by much.

 

[ken.dogcio]

You should be able to fit win 10(up to 50GB) , LoL(20-25 GB) and Dota2(20-25 GB) on it fine, but also depending on what other stuff you will want to install, so the 256 GB can be used up pretty fast.

Actually i have not played league and dota for a long time, so maybe it is even bigger now. But my guess, probably not by much.

Yeah, around that space. I still have around 140GB. And i think that's good enough for me.

I don't plan on saving files/music/pictures and etc. I have my laptop for that.

Thank you for the comments!

 

[Phaaze88]

Is there a big difference between SSD and M2?

Only in the professional market, at the moment.

NVMe SSD that use M2 can be 5 to 6 times faster then a SATA SSD, depending on the make and model.

Completely unnoticeable, if all one does is game... a SATA SSD is more than enough for those individuals.

 

[WildCard999]

Fyi make sure that B450 motherboard had the BIOS updated enough to run that 3400G. Contact the retailer to find out or sometimes it will be listed on there site.

 

[Nemesia]

The difference between the SSD and the NVMe is pretty small.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AYextvB9l4