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Crap...thats a 9800 XT (facepalm). I guess I just expected that the 9700 or 9800 pro would be pictured, as they pretty much changed the graphics market and made ATI a top contender.
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superflykicks03 exactly were is the 9700 pro in the line up. A classic.
...I write this with my feet resting on a Dell Poweredge 4600 with a Rage XL in it.
...I write this with my feet resting on a Dell Poweredge 4600 with a Rage XL in it.
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Oh god...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
ATI..."We have what you want." Genius slogan.
ATI..."We have what you want." Genius slogan.
[citation][nom]frontwing[/nom]Hm, my vidcard history untill now;Started of with a Diamond stealth 3D 2000,Diamond Monster 3D 3dfx Voodoo1, added a 2nd 4 mb Voodoo via an external pass-through 2D video interconnect cable lateron.Then my 1st Geforce; a 32 mb geforce 256.Yes, my 1st Radeon, an ATI 64 mb 9000.After that a 9550 GE with 128 mb.When that one died used a geforce 6200 256 mb for a cpl of years.Today I have a 4670 and planning for an upgrade in March.And yes,you guessed right,it will be an ATI again.[/citation]
You need to get your facts straight, everything up to the 58xx series was ATI.
There is a reason the 68xx series has an AMD logo on the die!
You need to get your facts straight, everything up to the 58xx series was ATI.
There is a reason the 68xx series has an AMD logo on the die!
[citation][nom]edalbkrad[/nom]ATI had a good run, but their new cards since the HD3000 series were all great because of the combined tech with AMD cpu. I assume the old ATI cards prices will go up in ebay soon, same with Voodoo 6000 which goes for 1500$ or higher.I still have two working Radeon 7000's on old P4 systems[/citation]
Sorry I was trying to reply to this!
Sorry I was trying to reply to this!
It's almost as if this article was written purely because he was TOLD to do so, not because he wanted to do it. It seems almost very poorly researched...
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Since everybody is indulging... My list:
- Integrated Hercules Mono Graphics (on a 8088 with 640K of RAM)
- Integrated VGA+Cirrus Logic 2D chip + 1 Mb framebuffer
- S3 Trio64 + 1 Mb framebuffer. That one was soon coupled with a 3Dfx Voodoo.
- Nvidia TnT, 16 Mb framebuffer. Lasted me a few years, the largish FB, careful system optimization, a slight VRAM overclock and good drivers brought 3 years of life out of that one.
- Nvidia Geforce4 Ti 4200/8X: replaced the TnT, as no matter I pushed it I couldn't crank more FPS out of it. This one stayed stock its whole life.
- Nvidia Geforce 6600, bought because it was the most powerful passively cooled card I could find at a reasonable price.
- Ati RadeonHD 4850; I had been looking for a replacement for the Geforce 6600, and was ogling the RadeonHD 2600XT at the time; then the 3850 came out, soon followed by an announcement that, as powerful as the ship was, it had a bug causing a drop in theoretical performance - so I waited, and got the 4850 - that I retain to this day.
- Integrated Hercules Mono Graphics (on a 8088 with 640K of RAM)
- Integrated VGA+Cirrus Logic 2D chip + 1 Mb framebuffer
- S3 Trio64 + 1 Mb framebuffer. That one was soon coupled with a 3Dfx Voodoo.
- Nvidia TnT, 16 Mb framebuffer. Lasted me a few years, the largish FB, careful system optimization, a slight VRAM overclock and good drivers brought 3 years of life out of that one.
- Nvidia Geforce4 Ti 4200/8X: replaced the TnT, as no matter I pushed it I couldn't crank more FPS out of it. This one stayed stock its whole life.
- Nvidia Geforce 6600, bought because it was the most powerful passively cooled card I could find at a reasonable price.
- Ati RadeonHD 4850; I had been looking for a replacement for the Geforce 6600, and was ogling the RadeonHD 2600XT at the time; then the 3850 came out, soon followed by an announcement that, as powerful as the ship was, it had a bug causing a drop in theoretical performance - so I waited, and got the 4850 - that I retain to this day.
I started off with 3dfx cards: Voodoo Banshee, 2, 3
Moved to a host of Nvidia cards: GF2 MX, 4200ti, 6600, 7900GS. Then moved to ATI with the 9600pro, X800, the 4670 and 5770.
At first, ATI was too expensive. THEN, they lagged Nvidia. Now, the give great price/performance in the low and mid range.
I have never been a GPU fanboy, and always took the best deal at the time that allowed me to play the latest games at high resolution and good frame rates.
Moved to a host of Nvidia cards: GF2 MX, 4200ti, 6600, 7900GS. Then moved to ATI with the 9600pro, X800, the 4670 and 5770.
At first, ATI was too expensive. THEN, they lagged Nvidia. Now, the give great price/performance in the low and mid range.
I have never been a GPU fanboy, and always took the best deal at the time that allowed me to play the latest games at high resolution and good frame rates.
I'm not sure what the author means about the HD 3850 AGP not being able to use the latest catalyst drivers. AMD has provided AGP hotfix drivers for the HD3850 all the way up to the latest builds. I'm currently using Catalyst 10.12 with a HD3850 AGP and Windows 7.
I completely agree!! I was paging through waiting to see the 9700 Pro... this is what really put ATI on the map for most people. Until then, ATI was always a runner-up to nVidia/Matrox/3DFX. After the 9700 Pro, ATI commanded the respect of being the top dog and to this day everyone now keeps an eye on ATI/AMD.
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My GPU history...
1998 - SiS6326 8MB AGP (ouch)
2000 - Diamond Stealth II S540 32MB Savage4 (I loved MeTaL but the card was a bit limp)
2001 - Hercules 3D Prophet 4500 Kyro II (great tech, but needed a good CPU. Not a good overclocker...)
2003 - GeForce Ti4200 8x (good entry into higher res gaming, although when I got it out of a box two years back, the shaders went doolally)
2004 - Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB (256-bit version, great OEM card, sadly failed to boot at the end of 2008 after four years at approx. XT clocks with an Arctic Cooling cooler)
2008 - Powercolor Radeon 1650 Pro 512MB (still on the AGP train, needed a replacement for the dead 9800 Pro but rather underwhelming - 128-bit interface didn't help)
2009 - XFX Radeon HD4830 512MB (made the jump to PCI-Express and still using it, good enough for the moment and no issues)
Happy with ATi and hope the Radeon brand continues to provide fine solutions well into the future. However, I do agree with others here in that this isn't much of a send-off; focusing too much on the negative and not enough on the positive (no 9700 series or 4850), and some incorrect statements thrown in there.
1998 - SiS6326 8MB AGP (ouch)
2000 - Diamond Stealth II S540 32MB Savage4 (I loved MeTaL but the card was a bit limp)
2001 - Hercules 3D Prophet 4500 Kyro II (great tech, but needed a good CPU. Not a good overclocker...)
2003 - GeForce Ti4200 8x (good entry into higher res gaming, although when I got it out of a box two years back, the shaders went doolally)
2004 - Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB (256-bit version, great OEM card, sadly failed to boot at the end of 2008 after four years at approx. XT clocks with an Arctic Cooling cooler)
2008 - Powercolor Radeon 1650 Pro 512MB (still on the AGP train, needed a replacement for the dead 9800 Pro but rather underwhelming - 128-bit interface didn't help)
2009 - XFX Radeon HD4830 512MB (made the jump to PCI-Express and still using it, good enough for the moment and no issues)
Happy with ATi and hope the Radeon brand continues to provide fine solutions well into the future. However, I do agree with others here in that this isn't much of a send-off; focusing too much on the negative and not enough on the positive (no 9700 series or 4850), and some incorrect statements thrown in there.
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AMD,ATI,......etc. As long as it is the same great company,it is fine.Also,you can't deny the benefit that was brought to AMD by means of ATI's brilliant engineers.In the end, I respect both AMD or ATI, no matter which brand I buy, I always will respect these two(or one only by now).Farewell ATI, you will always be a respectful company in my book.I remember buying the HIS Rage 128 Pro in 2001, the HD 4870 in 2008 & the 9600 in 2009(found by coincidence for an old machine).
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Ahem, I think there was an omission.
I was working in a small computer store when it was released. My Pentium 4 build had a stellar R200 (radeon 8500 pro), and I loved LOVED it. I remember hearing that ATI abandoned R250 (8500XT) and pushing the next-gen R300 to the market to avoid coming second to nVidia's Gefore Ti4 series. Ooo! What a gamble! Dangerous to venture into new territory first, and what a huge waste of money if it flops! Thank god they had the balls.
The release of the 9700 pro was spectacular and unprecedented news. It was the first card with pixel shader 2, and nVidia wouldn’t have it until the 5 seriesAnti-aliasing was gorgeous, and this was the first time you could use it. I remember the R300 beating the 4 series' performance by a margin of 100% with AA/AF enabled. I remember reading countless comparisons and didn’t believe the results were real. We sat around the computer store all day running future mark and recreating these comparisons for ourselves. We didn’t sell an nVidia card until the 6 series, 2 generations later, when Pixel Shader 3 came around (and SLI was back). I did buy a 6800 for my next build, and it was great indeed, but no card has given me the same feeling of superpower that my 9700 did for 2 years. Owning that card was what got me hooked on hardware reviews in the first place, and why I read this site today.
Good bye ATi. The graphics card wars have been great fun. The R300 started it for me, and I have a 5850 right now, branded ATi, and it rules.
I was working in a small computer store when it was released. My Pentium 4 build had a stellar R200 (radeon 8500 pro), and I loved LOVED it. I remember hearing that ATI abandoned R250 (8500XT) and pushing the next-gen R300 to the market to avoid coming second to nVidia's Gefore Ti4 series. Ooo! What a gamble! Dangerous to venture into new territory first, and what a huge waste of money if it flops! Thank god they had the balls.
The release of the 9700 pro was spectacular and unprecedented news. It was the first card with pixel shader 2, and nVidia wouldn’t have it until the 5 seriesAnti-aliasing was gorgeous, and this was the first time you could use it. I remember the R300 beating the 4 series' performance by a margin of 100% with AA/AF enabled. I remember reading countless comparisons and didn’t believe the results were real. We sat around the computer store all day running future mark and recreating these comparisons for ourselves. We didn’t sell an nVidia card until the 6 series, 2 generations later, when Pixel Shader 3 came around (and SLI was back). I did buy a 6800 for my next build, and it was great indeed, but no card has given me the same feeling of superpower that my 9700 did for 2 years. Owning that card was what got me hooked on hardware reviews in the first place, and why I read this site today.
Good bye ATi. The graphics card wars have been great fun. The R300 started it for me, and I have a 5850 right now, branded ATi, and it rules.
All-in-wonder Pro 9800 solid in all fields, the envy of my friends back in the day... I still have it somewhere in my spare part stash.
Now I have the HD5870 and a bunch of Nvidia and ATI's in between.
Good memories playing moto racer 1. it ran better on my All in wonder that in my 3dfx monster 2
Now I have the HD5870 and a bunch of Nvidia and ATI's in between.
Good memories playing moto racer 1. it ran better on my All in wonder that in my 3dfx monster 2
Oh come on, let's begin with the ATI Hercules graphics card. Monochrome monitors never looked so good!
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Yep... it was the failure of the GF5800 ($600~1000 video card that was SOOO Loud...
Youtube this " nVidia GeForce FX 5800 - nVidia's Thoughts " = A MUST SEE video and this one too: " The noise of Gainward Geforce FX 5800 Ultra " (copy and paste)
The slightly older and slower 9700Pro was about $400 was much more usable.
I owned both the 9800Pro and GeForce 5900 at the same time. The 5900 was easily faster, cooler and SILENT (it was a MSI card and this started them gaining a reputation for quiet cards)... I loved both cards, but the 9800Pro was a bit faster and was my main gaming card for years, until it died 🙁 The 5900 may still work in a PC resold as USED.
So yes, both the 9700 & 9800 were very successful and gave ATI the respect it needed which turned into profits for better R&D and ATI finally took the hint to get serious with its drivers. The 8500 compared against the Ti4200~4800, but drivers kept it out of top spot.
But the entire X1x00 series was constantly over priced that I went with GeForce for myself and others too. The 2x00 series, too hot and too slow against the 8600 & 8800. Meanwhile the GF-7600GT was a great card which I paid $200 for in 2006... it was the most I ever paid for a graphics card. It was replaced with a $90 top-end 4670.
ATI became a "name" when it was bought out by AMD many years ago. The talent and the tech will remain, even thou its a different name. Its a marriage and the last name has finally changed to AMD, nothing more.
Youtube this " nVidia GeForce FX 5800 - nVidia's Thoughts " = A MUST SEE video and this one too: " The noise of Gainward Geforce FX 5800 Ultra " (copy and paste)
The slightly older and slower 9700Pro was about $400 was much more usable.
I owned both the 9800Pro and GeForce 5900 at the same time. The 5900 was easily faster, cooler and SILENT (it was a MSI card and this started them gaining a reputation for quiet cards)... I loved both cards, but the 9800Pro was a bit faster and was my main gaming card for years, until it died 🙁 The 5900 may still work in a PC resold as USED.
So yes, both the 9700 & 9800 were very successful and gave ATI the respect it needed which turned into profits for better R&D and ATI finally took the hint to get serious with its drivers. The 8500 compared against the Ti4200~4800, but drivers kept it out of top spot.
But the entire X1x00 series was constantly over priced that I went with GeForce for myself and others too. The 2x00 series, too hot and too slow against the 8600 & 8800. Meanwhile the GF-7600GT was a great card which I paid $200 for in 2006... it was the most I ever paid for a graphics card. It was replaced with a $90 top-end 4670.
ATI became a "name" when it was bought out by AMD many years ago. The talent and the tech will remain, even thou its a different name. Its a marriage and the last name has finally changed to AMD, nothing more.
Radeon 7500, should still be operational
Geforce 6800 Vanilla, probably still operational, but dropped it once on the floor and cooler fell off
Geforce 7800 GT died
Geforce 8800 GT died
Radeon 4850 lasted for about two years, ran way too hot though until I replaced cooler. Great card nevertheless. Would have still used it, but died about a month ago
Geforce 460 768 MB current, runs fine so far
Geforce 6800 Vanilla, probably still operational, but dropped it once on the floor and cooler fell off
Geforce 7800 GT died
Geforce 8800 GT died
Radeon 4850 lasted for about two years, ran way too hot though until I replaced cooler. Great card nevertheless. Would have still used it, but died about a month ago
Geforce 460 768 MB current, runs fine so far
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