30 Years: The Top Five Milestones of The IBM PC

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[citation][nom]Xenophage[/nom]How about the NV1 chip? A commercial failure that nearly broke nVidia during their infancy, but it heralded an entire industry. I had one of those: A Diamond Edge 3D card with a completely proprietary framework, and it shipped with the only three games that ever made to take advantage of the chip.Or the AdLib sound synthesizer? The first MIDI card for a PC. We went from beeps and bloops to real music![/citation]

The nv1 was nothing but a tiny blip on the radar at that time and the market didn't really take off till the 3dfx voodoo1.
 
[citation][nom]techguy378[/nom]My first computer was an IBM PC jr. It came with a floppy disk drive, but the instruction book clearly stated this was an option. The computer had BASIC burned into its ROM chip. It had two cartridge slots. Changing cartridges did not require turning the computer off. This was also the first computer in existence to have a wireless keyboard. Unlike its big brother, the PC jr's PC speaker could actually do more than play simple beeps. The IBM PC jr was the best consumer desktop PC available at the time of its release. Why it didn't last longer is a total mystery.[/citation]

Actually, the PC jr. did survive a long, long time, even longer than the PC. It was just called the Tandy 1000. Tandy actually based that on the junior, with the superior graphics and sound, not on the PC. Just as they were about to release it, IBM discontinued the PC jr. and they had to respin it as largely compatible with the PC jr.

The Junior had a lot of good stuff, like doubling graphics memory, and finally introducing decent sound. The problems were there horrible keyboard, which they finally replaced, but too late. Also, it wasn't quite 100% compatible with the PC, and was slower (no DMA), and of course couldn't use IBM PC cards (they had to be daisy chained on the side to each other).

The real problem was the price was still too high. People could get Tandys, Commodores or Ataris (Apples were over price junk) for a lot less. So, it didn't have what it took to be a business computer, for reasons mentioned above, but was priced much higher than competition for the home. That's why it didn't sell, even though the technology was good and survived in other computers for many years.
 
the 1st milestone of the IBM PC was when IBM released its specs to the public for cloning. the 2nd milestone was IBM did not pursue legal actions on anyone cloning and allowed others to innovate on its original design and concept. the 3rd and last milestone was IBM just let its baby fade into obscurity while others with more imaginative and innovative ideas take over.
 
My first machine was Radio Shack/ Tandy TRS80
No floppy or hard drive, just a tape deck, the floppy for the tandy was $1500 first har drive was a winchester 10 MB cost us $30,000 but used with an Altos computer running CPM/MPM what a fantastic system that was.
Glad prices went down though
 
One bit of technology that is often taken for granted and overlooked is the flat-panel screen. It is what really makes every mobile computing device possible. I remember when Compaq was first formed by a group of former IBM execs. They chose Compaq as a name, because they focused on a hinged "folding" computer design, but flat panels were no where in sight. It had a small CRT monitor built in was was the size of a small suitcase.
 
owww this brings memories!
The IBM PC you have at this photo there is the same pc i bought at 1987! For..about 1500euro, current money, but back then it was like 9 monthly salaries of a good salesman in Greece!
That PC had 8088 CPU @4.77MHZ! and 256KB RAM!, Especially the cpu speed has gone 1000times more about in our days! insane! I bought that pc, 13year old, and me with my brother mother and father made contests at DIGGER lol.
Yes ok my father used it for his stock merchandise too but..oh well..it was our GAMING PC hahaha.

Really sad you ADDED wireless Technology than VOODOO cards!I feel you are stealing their history along NVIDIA who bought 3DFX and shut them down 🙁
 
[citation][nom]Lekko[/nom]I think right now we're in the middle of the touchscreen revolution. That's a huge one that's still a bit too new to really be seen as massive.[/citation]
Too new? I guess 30 years is too new. Touchscreens have been available to the commercial and industrial sectors for quite a while now.
 
How DARE you not mentioning NETSCAPE browser in mentioning web browser?
Who f* cares about f* Internet Explorer that was just a big TROUBLE over overstated "windblows" DOS extender?

Netscape started revolution and Mozilla is going ahead with it with Firefox, Seamonkey and other MULTI-PLATFORM products.

Just you need to be looney to say IE has anything to do with web beginnings. It is NETSCAPE that payed the way to the future!
 
actualy i think the commodore amiga was the first pc that used a windows
like gui wich they call it workbench.and i agree that they should include the mouse as a milestone too.
 
heres my thoughts

10. The mouse - This revolutionized hardware interface on a pcbefore this there was jsut keyboards!

9. 1ghz + speeds - this is where pc hardware really started doing more than what teha verage user needed , (althought modern OS'es would totlaly gimp the first ghz cpu today , technically you can grab win 98 and still browse the web if that is all you want a pc for , which happens to be what most users want one for). also should be noted because hitting the 1 ghz ,milestone was the first thime intel lost a tech race, the first 1 ghz cpu was an AMD slot A athlon cpu, which was replaced with a socket version of the 1ghz athlon, even before intel got thier first 1 ghz out .

windows - windows 3.1 gave the few folks that used it a glimps of waht the future could hold for pcs

windows 95 - This was teh realization of what win3.1 had tried to do, after win 95 PC's became a viable product for the mass market

the internet- it came a bit before windows 95 , but in all honesty this was the driving factor that made pc's common house hold items.

Two button mouse- the idea of a mosue with two butons was revolutionary , sure it sound's small, but can you really iamgine navigting an OS with just one mouse button ?

mouse wheel - not long after windows 3.1 came out it was realized there needed to be a quick and easy way to scroll a window page. welcome mouse wheel , again not a major revolution , but the mouse wheel is used in nearly ever modern application in exsistance today. Today if fuctions as a scroll bar for window opages , web browser pages , as well as a way to zoom in and out , in a large variety of 3d applications as wella s 2d paint applications.

3ds Max/maya - normally i'd toss this one out of the lsit cos i'm thinking of things that directlya ffected pc's , (it's why i disagree with wireless being on your list , that revolutionized communication not PC's). however , consider this , recently a lot of so called "experts" are all sayign how pc will die blah blah blah. but programs like 3ds max and photoshop or coral painter , are the main reason why these guy's wordsa re total BS. in short the invention of 3ds max solidified the PC as tool for multiple entertainment industries (namely the movie industry and the game industry). It was created in 1989 namely for use in generating movie effects , and was later caried over to the game industry when that industry moved to 3d. for the most part the movie industry started using maya which was bassically a redisgn of 3ds max done specifically to cater more to the movie industry, but 3ds max today still stands as a reason why P{C wil NOT die , at lest not in the work force , you can't seriously run this application on a mobile device , msot lap tops can't run it half as well as a modern lower end desk top , not to forget a full blown power workstation.

DSL - sure it's not as good as fiber optics or even cable , but it was the first form of broadband , and iit is stil the only option for soem areas. thankfuly dsl speeds have increased some with time (my dsl conection is just good enough to stream 1080p movies off net flx, or play online games , not sure how it would handle onlive's streamed games though 😛 ). point being this really opened up what was possible with the internet ...high quality porn anyone ? (joke).


and no these are not in order of importance , because hoenstly i think they all had huge importance . with otu any oen of these milestones , the pc would not be what it is today , and maybe then those a--es that think it wil die might atually be spekaing truthfully.
 
[citation][nom]badfx1977[/nom]actualy i think the commodore amiga was the first pc that used a windows like gui wich they call it workbench.and i agree that they should include the mouse as a milestone too.[/citation]

The Apple Macintosh was earlier and was the microcomputer that most popularized the GUI although there were earlier more expensive commercial machines that did so (like the Apple LISA,Xerox Star and Perq workstation).Visi Corp had their Visi On GUI based office software for the IBM PC (XT really) Platform before Microsoft Windows too.
 
My thoughts:

1. Some people need to lighten up; it's a best of list, not some personal slap in the face.

2. Is the guy using "TA152H" named after the German plane? Because that's kind of cool.

I'd agree with the list, especially with Windows. Hate Microsoft or not, it is a Windows world, but may not be forever. I would have lumped notebooks and wireless together under portability, as most desktops still use wired connections. The last milestone would have been 3D gaming, but eh, that's just me.
 
IBM and the Holocaust is a book by investigative journalist Edwin Black which details the business dealings of the American-based multinational corporation International Business Machines (IBM) and its German and other European subsidiaries with the government of Adolf Hitler during the 1930s and the years of World War II. In the book, Black outlines the way in which IBM's technology helped facilitate Nazi genocide against the Jewish people through generation and tabulation of punch cards based upon national census data.
 
[citation][nom]cookoy[/nom]the 1st milestone of the IBM PC was when IBM released its specs to the public for cloning. the 2nd milestone was IBM did not pursue legal actions on anyone cloning and allowed others to innovate on its original design and concept. the 3rd and last milestone was IBM just let its baby fade into obscurity while others with more imaginative and innovative ideas take over.[/citation]

Actually, it's not true. IBM patented a lot of the technologies for the AT-Bus (often incorrectly referred to as the ISA bus), and Microchannel, and charged up to 5% in royalties.

They used off the shelf parts, so it was not that hard to clone. Also, companies didn't duplicate the BIOS, they simply duplicated the functionality of it.
 
[citation][nom]slckb0y[/nom]IBM and the Holocaust is a book by investigative journalist Edwin Black which details the business dealings of the American-based multinational corporation International Business Machines (IBM) and its German and other European subsidiaries with the government of Adolf Hitler during the 1930s and the years of World War II. In the book, Black outlines the way in which IBM's technology helped facilitate Nazi genocide against the Jewish people through generation and tabulation of punch cards based upon national census data.[/citation]
And how did they have any choice about doing that? They didn't.
 
i personally use telephone lines, eathernet, and connect laptop to router with eathernet cable.

partially because the wi fi cards suck and fail so often that i dont even bother getting new ones anymore.
 
Why when people bring up the GUI and mouse do they only refer to MS borrowing the idea from Apple and never even think to mention that Apple originally got the "idea" from Xerox when the Steves took a tour of the PARC labs. The GUI and mouse are both ideas that came out of PARC.

Everybody wants to point the finger at MS and make Bill and the boys out to be "evil" when Bill Gates simply did the same thing to Apple that Steve Jobs did to Xerox. The only difference is that Steve threw a fit and Xerox didn't give a damn cus they didn't really see a future in the GUI
 
[citation][nom]Xenophage[/nom]How about the NV1 chip? A commercial failure that nearly broke nVidia during their infancy, but it heralded an entire industry. I had one of those: A Diamond Edge 3D card with a completely proprietary framework, and it shipped with the only three games that ever made to take advantage of the chip.Or the AdLib sound synthesizer? The first MIDI card for a PC. We went from beeps and bloops to real music![/citation]

I agree with the NV1...although I never got to experience that one.
My first 3D accelerator (or rather, Decelerator) was the S3 Virge3D. :)

And yeah, the Adlib was legendary.
 
[citation][nom]TA152H[/nom]Microsoft Windows made the PC mainstream? What???? Why talk about stuff you don't know anything about? DOS was wildly successful, and Intel based PCs were increasing sales every year. What a stupid, uninformed remark. By the way, Wolfie, do you know why Windows gained market acceptance? Because Windows/386 could take advantage of Intel's Virtual 86 mode, and thus could multi-task (albeit cooperatively) DOS programs! People started using it for that, it gained a good installed base, and Windows based apps started coming out.[/citation]

Sorry dude but he is right on this one, once 3.11 hit the PC's popularity went into high gear and they started becoming commonplace in schools replacing the Acorns that had replaced the BBC's years before. Then when Win95 hit sales went into overdrive, DOS was great but you needed to know how it worked and the CLI was daunting to a new/old user whereas the GUI of windows made it much more user friendly and allowed it to compete better with other systems in the home/office/school.
 
Altough not as significant as the 5 milestones posted, I believe multiple cores on a cpu is still important. It gave Moore's Law a new chance.
 
[citation][nom]jamesedgeuk2000[/nom]Sorry dude but he is right on this one, once 3.11 hit the PC's popularity went into high gear and they started becoming commonplace in schools replacing the Acorns that had replaced the BBC's years before. Then when Win95 hit sales went into overdrive, DOS was great but you needed to know how it worked and the CLI was daunting to a new/old user whereas the GUI of windows made it much more user friendly and allowed it to compete better with other systems in the home/office/school.[/citation]

Sales for PCs went up each year. OS/2 also had a better and more advanced GUI than Windows 3.11 or Windows 95.

Acorn? What the Hell is that? You're obviously not from the United States, and no offense, Great Britain isn't the best gauge for computer sales. Here the Apple IIe was big into schools, and it sure didn't have a GUI. It was discontinued in 1993, and schools had been moving to PCs long before that since the line was not being updated.

Also, Windows 3.0 sold quite well too, but not because of Windows, but because it ran multiple DOS apps.

Also, you could have a GUI in DOS, and DOS 4.0 and later did. Applications had their own GUI as well. Windows was not the only way to have a GUI for an app, it just meant you could call an API instead of write the code yourself in a DOS based environment.
 


You realize you just destroyed your own argument. 😉

This is when programming for Windows started to take off, which is when PC's started to become more "mainstream" for more than just your office. They could write programs that directed actions to the API, instead of having to have the USER configure each install for all the different hardware configurations they were available - to get sound to work, to get a serial mouse to work, to even get a printer to work. Finding out what IRQ each peripheral had, which would and could be different for each computer.

The programs just "asked" Windows - use this sound, print this doc, etc. Once Windows has all the right settings and drivers - each individual program (mostly) didn't have to have them.
 
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