32 bit OS v. 64 bit OS

[Bullheaded67]

You want links? Ok

http://asia.cnet.com/crave/2009/08/12/64-bit-computing-to-become-common-with-windows-7/

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2337414,00.asp

And here is even one talking about Mac 64-bit computing:

http://lowendmac.com/musings/09mm/64-bit-computing.html

Just because it has no huge immediate improvements doesn't mean that it won't in the near future. Why limit yourself?

BTW, I am running Windows 7x64 Ultimate and I am able to do an extreme amount of multi-tasking with no noticeable slowdown - an immediate improvement over my Vista 32-bit experience. Is it something I can document? Well no, that kind of thing is subjective. That said, there are an awful lot of people saying that 64-bit provides a better experience and far fewer pitching a fit to stay 32-bit.

 

[Bullheaded67]

See.. that is what you do that the people responding to you have a problem with in general. You pick out the parts of articles that you feel substantiate your opinion without looking at the overall picture. The fact of the matter is that even if 64-bit doesn't help everyone at this moment it soon will as that is the future trend in computing. If you want to keep the hamsters running in your XP PC then by all means do so but don't get 'your panties in a wad' over those of us who are forward-thinking.

The fact remains - given the OPs hardware, 64-bit is the logical choice.

 

[Onus]

Whether or not it does today, sticking with 32bit may create a future limitation. Yes, there are apps that will not run in a 64bit environment (e.g. Cisco VPN, a potential dealbreaker for some [businesses]), but however slowly, this is where the industry is headed. If your specific situation dictates one or the other, then that's what you get. Otherwise, the most options will be available to you now and in the future by going with 64bit, whether or not you can measure any notable difference today.

 

[carlhenry]

hello habitat.. why install (AND PURCHASE) a 32bit system now
if you can purchase a 64bit OS which you can use for.. lets say a good 5 years?
apps will eventually be 64bit after 7's release. wouldnt it hurt our pockets if we
listened to your advice and purchased a crappy 32bit now and that 64bit OS will be useful when windows 45458925 came out? lol

 

[xaira]

32bit windows and intel atom 32bit only is holding the world back, get the x64, u may not need it, but it is the future, lets say ur needs go past 2 gb, then ull have to reinstall

 

[0ptic0n]

Instead of bashing other peoples post why not add something that has relevance to the topic at hand. All you really seem to be doing is opening a can of worms on just application compatibility. If that's your main concern just list it and move on

 

[Zoron]

You bring it upon yourself. Your attitude is atrocious. You can't find specific examples of compatibility issues with Windows 7, yet you keep claiming that somehow it will definately have the same issues as Vista. If you used Windows 7 as you claimed you have... then you should be able to provide us with specific examples... not just links to articles talking about how older software wasn't written with Vista's UAC in mind. We are talking about Windows 7 here, not Vista, not XP and not Mac OS. If all you're going to do is link to articles, at least link to ones regarding Windows 7.

"It's not released yet" is a cop-out. The Release Candidate has been widely available for quite some time now. While this isn't necessarily a true reflection of what the RTM release will be like... it is damn close. Certainly close enough that it can be used as a guage to tell what will be and what won't be compatible.

 

[croc]

You bring it upon yourself. Your attitude is atrocious. You can't find specific examples of compatibility issues with Windows 7, yet you keep claiming that somehow it will definately have the same issues as Vista. If you used Windows 7 as you claimed you have... then you should be able to provide us with specific examples... not just links to articles talking about how older software wasn't written with Vista's UAC in mind. We are talking about Windows 7 here, not Vista, not XP and not Mac OS. If all you're going to do is link to articles, at least link to ones regarding Windows 7.

"It's not released yet" is a cop-out. The Release Candidate has been widely available for quite some time now. While this isn't necessarily a true reflection of what the RTM release will be like... it is damn close. Certainly close enough that it can be used as a guage to tell what will be and what won't be compatible.

Even worse, in other threads he 'claimed' that he was one of 'only 10,000' people to be in the Vista beta test group. He says that Vista has compatability issues, but can't provide examples there, either. Me, I filed over 500 bug reports for Vista, 1500+ bug reports for XP / server 2k, and about the same for NT. Being semi-retired, I choose to just play with Win 7, not do a full debug / file reports on it.

Vista has very few compatability issues left for the average user, and some issues for businesses due to running older, legacy code. Also the hardware requirements did increase, making it a costly upgrade. Certain companies really have no recourse but to upgrade, however, as the productivity improvements in the newer hardware coupled with the newer OS's makes the cost of NOT upgrading a real bottom-line issue.

@Habitat: The Luddites have no website, but should have a meeting in a town near you soon... The FlatEarthSociety forum can be found here: theflatearthsociety.org

 

[Zoron]

Simple. Windows XP was originally intended to be supported until 2012... this would have been the case regardless of how Vista performed or sold. MS has clearly stated on their website that ALL versions of Windows would have 5 years mainstream and 10 years extended support. The only reason XP has been extended to 2014 is because Vista was delayed... it should have been ready in 2005 (MS is shooting for a 3-year cycle), but wasn't ready until 2007. Windows XP wasn't delayed and the 10-year support period for Win 2K expired... hence why support for 2000 was discontinued on schedule.

It's really that simple.

 

[croc]

"Go away dirty ol man, I don't trust your findings at all..."

Listen, I really don't CARE about what you think, feel, trust, etc. I gave you a link to a website, please go there. On the other hand, the flat earthers have an exquisite sense of tongue-in-cheek humour, irony. I think that it might be a little above your intellectual level, and might leave you confused....

So to paraphrase your statement, 'Go away you irritating young twit, I don't care if your feelings are hurt or not. You have no findings or posts of any value on this forum at all'.

You have single-handedly destroyed every thread that you have ever posted in, you have never once offered any constructive advice to any OP that I can see, and have been the single-handed cause of more threads being locked than I can recall in recent history. Why you are still here, I have no clue.

You are aware that there are quite a few (many) knowledgeable members on these forums, yeah? I would posit the position that it would not be in your best interest to ever post a request for assistance in any of these forums...

 

[sminlal]

your starting to irritate me with your nagging.

...said the kettle to the pot! 😱

 

[Zoron]

1. What is the Support Lifecycle policy?

The Microsoft Support Lifecycle (MSL) policy standardizes Microsoft product support policies for Business and Developer products, and for Consumer, Hardware, and Multimedia products. The Support Lifecycle policy was originally announced on October 15, 2002. A Support Lifecycle policy update went into effect June 1, 2004. The Support Lifecycle policy update applies to most Business and Developer products that were in Mainstream support on June 1, 2004, and to future product versions. The new Support Lifecycle policy provides:

Business and Developer products

Microsoft will offer a minimum of 10 years of support for Business and Developer products. Mainstream Support for Business and Developer products will be provided for 5 years or for 2 years after the successor product (N+1) is released, whichever is longer. Microsoft will also provide Extended Support for the 5 years following Mainstream support or for 2 years after the second successor product (N+2) is released, whichever is longer. Finally, most Business and Developer products will receive at least 10 years of online self-help support.

Consumer, Hardware, and Multimedia products

Microsoft will offer Mainstream Support for either a minimum of 5 years from the date of a product’s general availability, or for 2 years after the successor product (N+1) is released, whichever is longer. Extended Support is not offered for Consumer, Hardware, and Multimedia products. Products that release new versions annually, such as Microsoft Money, Microsoft Encarta, Microsoft Picture It!, and Microsoft Streets & Trips, will receive a minimum of 3 years of Mainstream Support from the product's date of availability. Most products will also receive at least 8 years of online self-help support. Microsoft Xbox games are currently not included in the Support Lifecycle policy.

To find the support timelines for your product, visit the Select a Product for Lifecycle Information site (products listed by Product Family) or the Support Lifecycle Index site.

There it is for you... in black and white. Yes, XP is still supported (it has entered the extended support cycle now) and will be until 2014. There will still be security updates and critical fixes... but no more service packs or general updates.

 

[Zoron]

Quit attempting to be a smartass... it doesn't suit you.

If you would actually read and comprehend what you're reading, you'd find that this support policy applies to ALL MICROSOFT PRODUCTS. Last time I checked, Windows XP was a Microsoft product and therefore covered by this support policy. Windows XP became generally available as of 12/31/2001.

That was quoted directly from Microsoft's website... where in the blue hell do you think it came from? Or are you just trying to be obtuse? (Never mind... I know the answer to that already). But since you insist...

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy

There is the link. Unlike you, I don't make *** up.

 

[croc]

Shall we rephrase your choice of words then?


"I have been around when your "MUM" was still a virgin" blah blah blah

I cant tell the difference between you and highschool punk with your rant. Stay on topic or go get some of those prescribed medicine that helps old people better focus in life. That's why they invent these types of medication...

Stay on topic please.

And again, stop following me around threads old man, if you want to judge people go and read the bible and be humbled greatly. You think your so wise, you would be put to sleep in those days with your dirty mouth.

So now you are an irrational, delusional bible thumper? And yes, I do have a 'dirty mouth', as do we all.

As to your Mum, them's just the facts, kid... And those facts scare me greatly as I did spend (mis-spend?) some time in and around Richmond in my youth. But the thought that one of those condoms broke, BRRrrr..!!!

 

[Zoron]

Child?

If your posts are any indication, I'd have to wager that I'm probably much older than you. Considering you have to rely on other people to give you your opinion rather than actually forming one yourself tells me a lot. Use and evaluate and then give your opinion. Stop quoting articles that aren't relevant to the conversation. Stop making every thread in here XP vs. Vista.

 

[Snowbum]

So....when exactly did habitat go insane?

 

[randomizer]

I wonder if croc's estimate was close.