3570k@4.5 vs fx 9590 whats better?

[zqa20]

so guys whats the better CPU for gaming 3570k@4.5 or the fx 9590 octa core @stock (can't really overclock this)

 

[LookItsRain]

Arent those upper level amd processors just OCed 8350s?

 

[CAaronD]

Damn, that's money wasted! I could easily go for a 4K rig with 4K monitor for the same price he's getting his stuff for.

 

[CAaronD]

If Only I had his budget for my PC I could easily get 2 R9 290s 4790K a 4K monitor, etc

 

[Guest]

Arent those upper level amd processors just OCed 8350s?

Pretty much. It's more than just an increased multiplier and they have some minor other advantages, but basically it's just for the sake of being able to get an FX-8350 that's guaranteed to run at 5GHz (provided you cool it properly). If you just purchase an FX-8350, there's a chance that you may not get it stable past 4.5-4.7GHz, or it will require an absurd amount of voltage (and thus really good cooling) to get it running at higher clocks.

That said, it uses significantly less power at 4.7-5GHz than most FX-8350s that are manually overclocked there. Take a look:
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/62166-amd-fx-9590-review-piledriver-5ghz-17.html
http://us.hardware.info/reviews/5135/28/amd-fx-9590-and-fx-9370-review-amds-return-to-the-high-end-market-energy-consumption-hd-7970-cinebench-115-max

Even in the latter review, the FX-9590 @ 5GHz only peaks at 120W over the stock FX-8350. Meanwhile if you take a look at overclocked results of the FX-8350, at ~4.7-5GHz it was usually drawing about 150W more than it does at stock, as seen here.

 

[RobCrezz]

The 9590 is better at keeping your room warm.

 

[Guest]

The 9590 is better at keeping your room warm.

Why pay for heating when you can game? Shoot.

 

[RobCrezz]

The 9590 is better at keeping your room warm.

Why pay for heating when you can game? Shoot.

:lol:

 

[zqa20]

well, hes bought it now so XD GG £2.5k

 

[JOOK-D]

You just can't help some people.

 

[logainofhades]

At least he will stay warm in the winter, I guess.

 

[theonerm2]

well, hes bought it now so XD GG £2.5k

He didn't get the best price to performance ratio on his build. That's ok as long as he got what he wanted. It's still a good CPU regardless. He just fell victim to AMD's marketing and thinks it's a better CPU than it really is... Personally I'd rather have gotten an 8320 and overclocked it if I wanted an AMD processor. AMD is for budget computing and not for £2.5K computing. I guess some people can't understand that.

 

[zqa20]

At least he will stay warm in the winter, I guess.

Is there going to be temp issues with his build? he did get a £70 water cooler for the CPU ;/.

 

[logainofhades]

It is a 220w cpu, I doubt it will be easy to keep cool in the summer.

 

[zqa20]

hmm, we can maybe use it to roast marshmallows when i next go round. YUM!

 

[oxiide]

so guys whats the better CPU for gaming 3570k@4.5 or the fx 9590 octa core @stock (can't really overclock this)

This is just an educated guess, but the i5-3570K may even be better in most games at stock clocks, to say nothing of 4.5 GHz.

The FX-9590 is an overpriced, power-hungry monstrosity designed and marketed as a gimmick. If you must go with AMD, overclock an FX-8350.

 

[zqa20]

so guys whats the better CPU for gaming 3570k@4.5 or the fx 9590 octa core @stock (can't really overclock this)

This is just an educated guess, but the i5-3570K may even be better in most games at stock clocks, to say nothing of 4.5 GHz.

The FX-9590 is an overpriced, power-hungry monstrosity designed and marketed as a gimmick. If you must go with AMD, overclock an FX-8350.

Thanks for the info

 

[Guest]

It is a 220w cpu, I doubt it will be easy to keep cool in the summer.

He'll need a Noctua NH-D14 w/ triple fans, Kraken X60 or something insane like that... I wonder why they stopped selling the FX-9370 and 9590 as a combo with a liquid CPU cooler.

 

[oxiide]

It is a 220w cpu, I doubt it will be easy to keep cool in the summer.

He'll need a Noctua NH-D14 w/ triple fans, Kraken X60 or something insane like that... I wonder why they stopped selling the FX-9370 and 9590 as a combo with a liquid CPU cooler.

It was likely a casualty of their price drops. AMD must have learned very quickly how many enthusiasts are willing to spend nearly $700 for a mediocre processor that needs as much power as a high-end video card.

 

[Karadjgne]

What I find laffable about this whole deal is the idiot will probably end up playing his games on a single 27" 1080p monitor, and wondering why the game plays ays identically to the OP's, 60 fps.

 

[Guest]

It is a 220w cpu, I doubt it will be easy to keep cool in the summer.

He'll need a Noctua NH-D14 w/ triple fans, Kraken X60 or something insane like that... I wonder why they stopped selling the FX-9370 and 9590 as a combo with a liquid CPU cooler.

It was likely a casualty of their price drops. AMD must have learned very quickly how many enthusiasts are willing to spend nearly $700 for a mediocre processor that needs as much power as a high-end video card.

A couple months ago you could buy an FX-9370 + liquid cooler bundle for $300 and FX-9590 + liquid cooler bundle for $350. I guess sales for them were really bad and they dropped the price to sell off the rest of the bundles since nobody was biting.

 

[logainofhades]

Hard to justify the cost when you could pick up an FX 8320 and an all in one cooler for less. Or buy a 1230v3 for like $250 and not need a water cooler, and wipe the floor with either of them.

 

[CAaronD]

He should have gotten Quad Crossfire reference R9 290x and a stock cooler FX9590 instead. He'll be able to keep warm in his polar expedition 😛 At least he can still use it to keep his family warm in the winter.

 

[logainofhades]

He should have gotten Quad Crossfire reference R9 290x and a stock cooler FX9590 instead. He'll be able to keep warm in his polar expedition 😛 At least he can still use it to keep his family warm in the winter.

Yea, the heating costs my actually go down with that thing running. Have him run F@H on it at night for those cold winter nights.

 

[CAaronD]

Have him overclock the CPUs and GPUs another 30% and get some sound proof material. "Ahh it's toasty in here! Where is the fireplace?" "Over there!" *points to 6GHz fx 9590 and 130%fan speed R9 290x reference versions*

 

[CAaronD]

Or if he wants to make jet engines sounds for a movie scene, look no further into 150% clocked R9 290x reference versions my friend.