3570k upgrading to 8600k worth?

[alexnovicov]

I am currently using a 3570k, which has been great for the past 5 years and running at 4.5. I even did a userbenchmark not long ago and ranked the CPU in the 91st percentile on performance compared to other 3570ks. But I've been noticing some performance issues lately, especially from CPU and GPU intensive games, i currently also have a GTX 1070 Ti and 16GB of ram @ 1600

Would the upgrade to a 8600k and DDR4 ram be a big upgrade for me?

 

[Hellfire13]

30% single core and 50% multi core increase. Thats a pretty decent upgrade definitely... http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8600K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3570K/3941vs1316
Should compliment the 1070ti pretty good.

 

[WildCard999]

You'll definitely get better performance, how much will depend on the game but all in all it should be quite noticeable as you'll have the extra two cores and you should be able to get a overclock around 5ghz when paired with a Z370 motherboard.

 

[luckymatt42]

Wildcard mentioned this, but just so you're clear you WILL have to get a new motherboard ("8th Generation"/Coffee Lake/Z370), and also new DDR4 memory. So it's not just a swap out the processor thing...you'll have to change at least motherboard and memory. (Graphics card is definitely fine, may also need to look into power supply but probably OK if you're 550w or above.)

 

[chorltonwheelie]

I've just made that exact same upgrade (what a great chip the 3570K is!) and the difference is immediately obvious.
Everything as smooth as butter. No more stuttering in Hitman, everything up to eleven in Everybody's Gone to the Rapture.
To be honest was planning to soldier on for a while with my 3570k but I had a windfall and now I'm up and running with a 8700K....wow!
You'll need to spend a few bob on DDR4 RAM and a motherboard. If at all possible get a high end cpu cooler and a decent psu.

Edit: Duh! 8600k you said...I bet there ain't much in it when it comes to frame rates.

 

[alexnovicov]

I knew had to switch out mobo and ram, but I've been reading that the new gen processors run quite hot? My current CPU, even though its overclocked runs at 65C the most, even at 100% usage, and I am only using a CM 212 cooler. Will I need to also buy a water cooler for the 8600k? And is the 8700k worth the $100 price difference?

 

[Hellfire13]

I knew had to switch out mobo and ram, but I've been reading that the new gen processors run quite hot? My current CPU, even though its overclocked runs at 65C the most, even at 100% usage, and I am only using a CM 212 cooler. Will I need to also buy a water cooler for the 8600k? And is the 8700k worth the $100 price difference?

For most part the difference in price between 8600k and 8700k doesnt justify the performance gain. But thats just for now. Lets say, 5yrs down the line, when the 8600k will start to show its age, the 8700k will be still going strong for the most part. So that $100 doesnt give you as much performance as much as it gives you longevity.
As for the cooler, the Coffeelake chips do tend to run hot. But it depends how hard you are pushing and how good you are in OCing. For the most part, something like a Cryorig H7 can give you mild to moderate OC. But if you plan to push something like 5ghz, you will need a bigger Cryorig/Noctua/AIO.
Or, you can simply buy it OCed... https://siliconlottery.com/collections/coffeelake

 

[WildCard999]

I knew had to switch out mobo and ram, but I've been reading that the new gen processors run quite hot? My current CPU, even though its overclocked runs at 65C the most, even at 100% usage, and I am only using a CM 212 cooler. Will I need to also buy a water cooler for the 8600k? And is the 8700k worth the $100 price difference?

You don't need to run a water cooler but you will probably need something better then the 212 to get a modest overclock from it. As for spending the extra $100 I wouldn't bother unless you need the extra threads on the 8700K, instead use part of that cost to get a higher end air cooler for the 8600K.

 

[alexnovicov]

I knew had to switch out mobo and ram, but I've been reading that the new gen processors run quite hot? My current CPU, even though its overclocked runs at 65C the most, even at 100% usage, and I am only using a CM 212 cooler. Will I need to also buy a water cooler for the 8600k? And is the 8700k worth the $100 price difference?

For most part the difference in price between 8600k and 8700k doesnt justify the performance gain. But thats just for now. Lets say, 5yrs down the line, when the 8600k will start to show its age, the 8700k will be still going strong for the most part. So that $100 doesnt give you as much performance as much as it gives you longevity.
As for the cooler, the Coffeelake chips do tend to run hot. But it depends how hard you are pushing and how good you are in OCing. For the most part, something like a Cryorig H7 can give you mild to moderate OC. But if you plan to push something like 5ghz, you will need a bigger Cryorig/Noctua/AIO.
Or, you can simply buy it OCed... https://siliconlottery.com/collections/coffeelake

I currently have a RMx 850 (because I thought I would SLI my cards). So the CM 212 won't be enough for the 8600k/8700k?

 

[Hellfire13]

I knew had to switch out mobo and ram, but I've been reading that the new gen processors run quite hot? My current CPU, even though its overclocked runs at 65C the most, even at 100% usage, and I am only using a CM 212 cooler. Will I need to also buy a water cooler for the 8600k? And is the 8700k worth the $100 price difference?

For most part the difference in price between 8600k and 8700k doesnt justify the performance gain. But thats just for now. Lets say, 5yrs down the line, when the 8600k will start to show its age, the 8700k will be still going strong for the most part. So that $100 doesnt give you as much performance as much as it gives you longevity.
As for the cooler, the Coffeelake chips do tend to run hot. But it depends how hard you are pushing and how good you are in OCing. For the most part, something like a Cryorig H7 can give you mild to moderate OC. But if you plan to push something like 5ghz, you will need a bigger Cryorig/Noctua/AIO.
Or, you can simply buy it OCed... https://siliconlottery.com/collections/coffeelake

I currently have a RMx 850 (because I thought I would SLI my cards). So the CM 212 won't be enough for the 8600k/8700k?

Again, if you are running stock clocks or OCing mildly, lets say 4ghz, then it should hold i guess.
If you are aiming 4.5ghz, something better like a Cryorig H7/H5 or Scythe Mugen should do.
If you are aiming 5ghz, then Cryorig R1, Noctua D14/D15, or AIOs like Corsair H series, NZXT Kraken or Arctic Freezer.

 

[alexnovicov]

sweet, thanks

 

[chorltonwheelie]

And is the 8700k worth the $100 price difference?

You'll get answers pointing to the longevity of the i7.
How long has your i5 3750k lasted?

In reality its subjective. In that I mean it's going to depend on the cash you have to splash.

 

[alexnovicov]

And is the 8700k worth the $100 price difference?

You'll get answers pointing to the longevity of the i7.
How long has your i5 3750k lasted?

In reality its subjective. In that I mean it's going to depend on the cash you have to splash.

i've had my 3570k for almost 6 years now, and it still runs quite well, its been overclocked @4.5 for 3 years now. Also the cost doesn't matter to me too much, as long as I am not wasting money on 0.1% performance difference.

 

[chorltonwheelie]

If the cost isn't a big problem get the absolute best you can afford.
Every little helps.

 

[Hellfire13]

The absolute best as of now is 8086k, which is your 8700k binned higher to 5ghz turbo speed.

 

[theonerm2]

For strictly gaming you would not notice a difference between the 8086K, 8700K, or the 8600K.

 

[alexnovicov]

I went ahead and purchased the 8700k, just to be safe. I will however feel a bit sad to be replacing the old and reliable 3570k.
thanks for the help guys!

 

[Hellfire13]

If you are into streaming, you can build a cheap streaming pc around that 3570k. Although 8700k can handle it butter smooth, having a dedicated streaming pc helps too. Perhaps, when you will have cash to spare.

 

[alexnovicov]

If you are into streaming, you can build a cheap streaming pc around that 3570k. Although 8700k can handle it butter smooth, having a dedicated streaming pc helps too. Perhaps, when you will have cash to spare.

Im not into streaming, but I will most likely use my old Corsair PSU and buy a 128gb ssd and use the PC for work.