Build Advice 3ds Max rendering with this build configuration ?

[kzainshah]

Hi! I was wondering if anyone here has ever built a PC similarly like this for 3ds max renders ?

Here's the configuration I choose.

1. 1: AMD 5000 Series Ryzen 7 5800X Desktop Processor 8 cores 16 Threads 36 MB Cache 3.8 GHz Upto 4.7 GHz AM4 Socket 500 Series
2. GIGABYTE B450 AORUS PRO Motherboard with Hybrid Digital PWM, Dual M.2 with Dual Thermal Guards, Audio ALC1220-VB, RGB Fusion 2.0
3. ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 3050 OC Edition 8 GB GDDR6 RAM Graphics Card with 128 bit 2560 CUDA Cores PCIE 4.0 3 Years Warranty High End Gaming Mining Editing, pci_e_x4
4. Corsair CV650, CV Series, 80 Plus Bronze Certified, 650 Watt Non-Modular Power Supply
5. Crucial P2 500GB 3D NAND NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD Up to 2400MB/s
6. XPG ADATA GAMMIX D30 DDR4 8GB (4x8GB) 3200MHz U-DIMM Desktop Memory 32GB
7. Crucial MX500 500GB 2.5-inch SSD
8. DEEPCOOL GAMMAXX 400 V2 Processor Fan.

 

[Lutfij]

Are you asking for suggestions on what to improve upon on? If so, you shouldn't be working with an RTX3050, instead work with something higher in tier. You should also look into a higher quality PSU while also looking into a B550 chipset motherboard.

Where are you located and what is your budget for your build?

 

[kzainshah]

I'm in India and I'm looking for what to improve under 1600$, as you mentioned above the model of B550 chipset motherboard so I looked into GIGABYTE B550M DS3H Ultra Durable and why do you think the RTX3050 wouldn't be enough to go? Suggest under the budget and PSU too. Thanks for the reply.

 

[DavidM012]

https://www.tomshardware.com/features/ryzen-5000-ram-guide

For your information. I'm curious why they used a 1200w power supply with this chip on the Gigabyte Auros master. Here's an example of a working system configuration that reached peak performance.

Follow it carefully however. There is a drawback. It says 'the majority' of ryzen 5000's could reach a 4000mhz fclk which means there is a possibility that you could wind up with a chip that is in the minority that doesn't by chance.

I was thinking maybe eventually the chips would get sorted out by the market but it's hard to see how because not everyone is trying to hit that peak performance with the cl15 memory. The cl14 memory does 3600mhz. So if they aren't fishing for the best chips maybe you're in with a chance.

Your need to know is that the 5800x is a higher end chip and while it can fit in the socket of mid range boards the vrms won't be strong enough to support it so it will run for a while and then slowly kill the board and psu if they aren't strong enough. Which is why you should be looking for b550.

Don't know if it will exactly squeeze into your budget. What you need to do at this juncture is read the review of any random board that pops into your head. You can search it they are quite well documented by now.

You can also simulate your build on https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

Which will give you an idea of prices and suppliers in your region.

Basically it's you vs the jargon and the economy. Pay some attention to details and Good luck! You know about using the QVL list on the mobo manufacturers website to search for compatible memory by part number, right?

In other words there's quite a lot of data to wade through to inform your choice and maybe you'd know what you're doing by the end of it.

And also read the review of any gpu you plan to buy. before buying it.

 

[DavidM012]

Looks like you could build the core system: Cooler, Cpu, Memory and Mobo and an nvme drive

but the PSU and GPU would break your budget.

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Well the quadro card is super expensive and you aren't likely to find a geforce that's capable since it's about 15x the price of your average gaming gpu and the drawback is you don't get any support.

So curiosity wonders what idea you have that you think you can run it with a geforce. Their recommended rig also had a 1200w psu.

You would also have to decide if you wanted an aio water cooler or an air cooler so that's something else to research

and then figure out if you can even buy the parts in your locale. And have the idea that you would still only be getting sub optimal performance from the application, with no support.

 

[USAFRet]

Why 3DS Max specifically?
Is this in a professional use case, or hobbyist?

That is a very very expensive tool, and you can't cheap out on components.

 

[kzainshah]

https://www.tomshardware.com/features/ryzen-5000-ram-guide

For your information. I'm curious why they used a 1200w power supply with this chip on the Gigabyte Auros master. Here's an example of a working system configuration that reached peak performance.

Follow it carefully however. There is a drawback. It says 'the majority' of ryzen 5000's could reach a 4000mhz fclk which means there is a possibility that you could wind up with a chip that is in the minority that doesn't by chance.

I was thinking maybe eventually the chips would get sorted out by the market but it's hard to see how because not everyone is trying to hit that peak performance with the cl15 memory. The cl14 memory does 3600mhz. So if they aren't fishing for the best chips maybe you're in with a chance.

Your need to know is that the 5800x is a higher end chip and while it can fit in the socket of mid range boards the vrms won't be strong enough to support it so it will run for a while and then slowly kill the board and psu if they aren't strong enough. Which is why you should be looking for b550.

Don't know if it will exactly squeeze into your budget. What you need to do at this juncture is read the review of any random board that pops into your head. You can search it they are quite well documented by now.

You can also simulate your build on https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

Which will give you an idea of prices and suppliers in your region.

Basically it's you vs the jargon and the economy. Pay some attention to details and Good luck! You know about using the QVL list on the mobo manufacturers website to search for compatible memory by part number, right?

In other words there's quite a lot of data to wade through to inform your choice and maybe you'd know what you're doing by the end of it.

And also read the review of any gpu you plan to buy. before buying it.

That's so right... there are so many models in b550 does every model comes with the good vrm or i can choose this Gigabyte AMD B550 Ultra Durable Motherboard with Pure Digital VRM

 

[DavidM012]

can you read lots of reviews for someone else?

Gigabyte mobos

I searched a b550 Ultra Durable Motherboard and it threw up the Auros Master and Auros pro with several reviews from several sites like this.

Don't know what Ultra Durable Motherboard is exactly it's not an model name of the gigabyte line up apparently.

Then you would have to compare the reviews with competing boards from other brands like asus, msi, and more.

So you'd have to search b550 motherboard reviews and that might also throw up some comparative reviews.

Then decide which one you want for this vague purpose of rendering with software that simply doesn't work well on what would be otherwise be a higher end gaming pc or workstation.

Since the quadro GPU for 3ds max is nigh on $8000. You can't use even a higher end gaming geforce with 3ds max, well you could but it wouldn't work very well and you'd get no technical support using the software on a geforce.

Meaning probably the software might load but run sluggishly. Because it's not supported you would have no knowledge of how to get it working on a gaming geforce.

On the other hand if you simply want to get the most out of your ryzen 5000:

https://www.tomshardware.com/features/ryzen-5000-ram-guide

This article shows you how it could be done. The gpu in it isn't the most advanced, but it's about the ddr4 memory speed.

You could build that system for $1600(ish) if the parts are available in your locale but it would only be for gaming not 3ds max rendering. You'd have all sorts of problems getting 3ds max to work. Though it could do other workstation like tasks, not 3ds max so much.

 

[kzainshah]

can you read lots of reviews for someone else?

Gigabyte mobos

I searched a b550 Ultra Durable Motherboard and it threw up the Auros Master and Auros pro with several reviews from several sites like this.

Don't know what Ultra Durable Motherboard is exactly it's not an model name of the gigabyte line up apparently.

Then you would have to compare the reviews with competing boards from other brands like asus, msi, and more.

So you'd have to search b550 motherboard reviews and that might also throw up some comparative reviews.

Then decide which one you want for this vague purpose of rendering with software that simply doesn't work well on what would be otherwise be a higher end gaming pc or workstation.

Since the quadro GPU for 3ds max is nigh on $8000. You can't use even a higher end gaming geforce with 3ds max, well you could but it wouldn't work very well and you'd get no technical support using the software on a geforce.

Meaning probably the software might load but run sluggishly. Because it's not supported you would have no knowledge of how to get it working on a gaming geforce.

On the other hand if you simply want to get the most out of your ryzen 5000:

https://www.tomshardware.com/features/ryzen-5000-ram-guide

This article shows you how it could be done. The gpu in it isn't the most advanced, but it's about the ddr4 memory speed.

You could build that system for $1600(ish) if the parts are available in your locale but it would only be for gaming not 3ds max rendering. You'd have all sorts of problems getting 3ds max to work. Though it could do other workstation like tasks, not 3ds max so much.

I've done the search for b550 Motherboard and come up with this GIGABYTE B550 AORUS Elite and think i can go with it, and for the graphic one of friend is using rtx 2070 6 gb ddr5 for rendering with almost same configuration of mine choice and did the pretty great job in rendering the home interiors with 70% of Cpu and GPU used, although it took him like 30 minutes or more

 

[DavidM012]

Well be careful here. You're considering buying an expensive PC and you have tunnel vision about this rendering idea when you may also be wanting it for other purposes so, when you're deciding about your GPU decide the level of gaming performance you want rather than the level of rendering performance because you can't match the quadro for rendering on a gaming gpu whatever you do.

So I mean don't buy a 2070 if you will want a 3070 for gaming, or an inferior gpu, Just buy the system for what gaming or office purposes you will also use it for and if it can manage a bit of rendering, ok but just know it won't be fast on 3ds max.

Seems to me like it would also be a heavy workload on the PC there, something to think about in terms of wear.

Only you know why you want to render things.

 

[kzainshah]

You're right! You work in Autodesk firms right?

 

[DavidM012]

If you insert 20¢

 

[kzainshah]

What's that?

 

[DavidM012]

a coin