Question 4070ti or 7900 XTX

[ms.caulk]

Ok, I'm building a system, and trying to decide on a GPU.

My specs are:

13600K
ROG Strix Z790-A
64GB T-Force Delta DDR4 3600 (4 x 16)
2tb Lexar 790 NVME
4tb Lexar 790 NVME
Corsair RM1000e 100w PSU
Thermaltake TOUGHLIQUID Ultra 360mm AIO
NZXT H7 flow case

I'm going to be using an Alienware AW3821DW display, and am trying to pick a GPU. I'm looking at a 4070ti or a 7900 XTX.

I know that the AMD card has a lot more VRAM, but I have a friend with one, and his drivers crash at least once a day.

I play AAA titles (RDR2, AC Valhalla, Odyssey, GTA, etc). WIll the 4070ti be enough to drive that display, or should I go with the 7900 XTX?

 

[XxDarkMario20xX]

I think 7900XT would be better choice over 4070ti because it abit more powerful then 4070ti and has more MEMORY SIZE and bus speed. But with your Monitor is gync and you have features like race tracing and dlss3 with 4070ti but think 7900xtx will give you more peformance over 4070ti



https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7900-xtx.c3941

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4070-ti.c3950


Also just to make you aware that they are new GPU coming out soon the super ones.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...eries-super-gpu-specs-and-launch-dates-leaked

 

[punkncat]

What sync type does the monitor use?

 

[ms.caulk]

GSync ultimate, but it's Freesync compatible.

 

[ms.caulk]

I think 7900XT would be better choice over 4070ti because it abit more powerful then 4070ti and has more MEMORY SIZE and bus speed. But with your Monitor is gync and you have features like race tracing and dlss3 with 4070ti but think 7900xtx will give you more peformance over 4070ti



https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7900-xtx.c3941

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4070-ti.c3950


Also just to make you aware that they are new GPU coming out soon the super ones.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...eries-super-gpu-specs-and-launch-dates-leaked

Yea, I know the 7900 XTX has more memory, and it's faster mem, but my concern is the Radeon software. I have a friend with the 7900XTX, and Adrenalin crashes every day. I don't want to deal with that.

I was not aware of the SUpers coming out. Upping the vram in the 4070ti to 16GB is a nice jump

 

[XxDarkMario20xX]

Yea, I know the 7900 XTX has more memory, and it's faster mem, but my concern is the Radeon software. I have a friend with the 7900XTX, and Adrenalin crashes every day. I don't want to deal with that.

I was not aware of the SUpers coming out. Upping the vram in the 4070ti to 16GB is a nice jump

Everyone computer behaves differently just because your friends crashes dose not mean yours will!

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Friend of mine went from a 3090 to a 7900xtx and seems happy as a lark. Personally I’ve run amd cards quite a bit and no major complaints. Keep in mind the 7000 series is their newer series of cards so they may still be working things out.

 

[turtletarget111]

Yea, I know the 7900 XTX has more memory, and it's faster mem, but my concern is the Radeon software. I have a friend with the 7900XTX, and Adrenalin crashes every day. I don't want to deal with that.

I was not aware of the SUpers coming out. Upping the vram in the 4070ti to 16GB is a nice jump

The AMD RX 7900 XTX will outperform the 4070Ti in games, with fairly significant margins. The increased amount of video memory will also gives the card more longevity as newer games release with higher resolution textures and more detailed environments. AMD has had driver problems in the past, but over the last few years AMD has put lots of work into making their drivers more stable and consistent. AMD's driver issues are really blown out of proportion nowadays, and I know plenty of people who run their cards with little to no hiccups. The improved performance and better value for money AMD provides with the 7900XTX over the 4070Ti is absolutely a better investment.

 

[ms.caulk]

I'm leaning that way. With double the memory, I'm figuring it will last longer than a 4070ti - especially at a resolution that is not quite 4k.

 

[beyondlogic]

I'm leaning that way. With double the memory, I'm figuring it will last longer than a 4070ti - especially at a resolution that is not quite 4k.

really depends on what games and resolution your gonna be playing as you've pointed out amd drivers can be problematic some people have a good experience myself I've run into issues with them mainly playing old titles etc.

i went from a 2060 super to a 6700xt i had issues out the gate tried reinstalling drivers complete reinstalling windows etc wasn't a great experience.

older games wouldn't anti alias or graphics where over sharp etc or just didn't bloody work.
personally i sent the 6700 xt back i wasn't going to go threw that with every single game that worked perfectly on 2060 super ( minus no man sky thats just a hog on gpu memory).
( i switched back to 2060 super.)

some monitors dont play nice with amd either ive got a acer nitro.

personally wait for the 4000 super cards there due in January to be announced.

also never use ram as a benchmark if a card will last longer i could throw 24gb on to a 1030 but if the gpu doesnt have enough grunt to push it its just wasted memory.

 

[drivinfast247]

My 7900xtx has been great! Had less issues with it than my 4080 and it performed better in the games I play.

 

[punkncat]

GSync ultimate, but it's Freesync compatible.

That makes the decision a lot harder IMO.

I have an official G Sync compatible and Free Sync Premium compatible monitor. I got it to go with a 3070, and recently upgraded to a 7800XT.

My own opinion is this. If you want to have Ray Tracing as nice as it can be then going Nvidia and taking advantage of G Sync is nice.

If you don't care about RT, and are just looking for some nice heavy lifting I have a great appreciation for how butter smooth the Free Sync Premium is alongside a powerful AMD card. Even when I get down to lower FPS on something like CP77 it just runs nicely.

 

[Justin A]

Yea, I know the 7900 XTX has more memory, and it's faster mem, but my concern is the Radeon software. I have a friend with the 7900XTX, and Adrenalin crashes every day. I don't want to deal with that.

I was not aware of the SUpers coming out. Upping the vram in the 4070ti to 16GB is a nice jump

my brother has a 6900 xt and his gf has a 3080 10gb. her drivers crash all the time, he never has any problems with his pc.
i have a 6700 xt, built last year with 13th gen intel cpu, ddr5 ram -stable ram though not pushing too high mhz, ddr5 was brand new and i had to get a z790 mobo as z690 did not offer 13th gen support without bios flashbacking which i was not going to bother with, and z790 did not release motherboards with ddr4 support until a fe w months later, didn't push past the official z790 maximum for ddr5, which has been greatly increased since lol - great air flow case, 1000w psu, etc. I was having the same issue with adrenalin for 2 months. Turned out to be the fault of the game as it was new and poorly optimized, at least at first. now it is happening again, after windows 11 pause limit was reached on updated and it forced me to update. (remember when we had control over the tech we bought? those were the days. any 'workaround' or whatever seems to be detected by microsoft and REVERTED on system restart.)

in my case, windows 11 causes me issues more so than the adrenalin program. somehow, some way, it messes up either my drivers or my stable tuning settings. (aside from all the lovely forced updates to different aspects of the OS that happen multiple times per week greatly increasing the chance for instability on the side of the operating system! that you cant turn off! love windows!). your friend can always (and i may do this) get rid of arenalin, install amd drivers manually, and see if problem solved for your friend btw. many people on reddit who had amd adrenalin driver crashes all the time tried that as a step in the check process to make sure it wasn't rma worthy card (almost never is)

point is, many people with amd cards have zero problems, many do, same goes for nvidia card users. ****

 

[ohio_buckeye]

After I’ve run amd cards quite a while though I’ve had nvidia cards as well and amd really has made some good strides.

 

[Deleted member 2962262]

7900 XTX is a much stronger card that should serve you well for longer.
"I have a friend with one, and his drivers crash at least once a day." - one case is not good evidence to go on, look at some reviews (and maybe your friend needs to fix their PC).
If you knew someone with a PCIe Gen 5 cable that melted then you might just as well argue in the other direction if single case observations drive your decisions.
Anyway, nice dilemma, enjoy!

 

[ohio_buckeye]

I may have said it alone but I’ve been running amd cards for a while and rarely have finder issues. Also the 7900xtx is closer to the rtx 4080 than the 4070ti. If it were me I’d get the xtx haha down.