4200 RPM drive fast enough?

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JAD wrote:
> "Donald Link" absolutley clueless
>
>
> your ignorance is only exceeded by your desire to express it.
>
> DMA not working? why would that be a 'drive' problem? That is an
improperly
> install OS or the IDE drivers. Tell me WHERE is this direct recording from
> DV recorder even mentioned by the OP?
>
> when there were no 4200+ drives, what the hell did people record with?

Tape recorders.

 

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lol yes that's true.........and what's the RPM of a reel to reel?


"Bill in Co." <surly12curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> JAD wrote:
> > "Donald Link" absolutley clueless
> >
> >
> > your ignorance is only exceeded by your desire to express it.
> >
> > DMA not working? why would that be a 'drive' problem? That is an
> improperly
> > install OS or the IDE drivers. Tell me WHERE is this direct
recording from
> > DV recorder even mentioned by the OP?
> >
> > when there were no 4200+ drives, what the hell did people record
with?
>
> Tape recorders.
>
>

 

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Try and external 7200 rpm drive and you should have little problems.


On 31 Dec 2004 00:57:22 -0800, Paul Rubin
<http://phr.cx@NOSPAM.invalid> wrote:

>Donald Link <linkd@mindspring.com> writes:
>> capture video when any idiot would know that in the real world even a
>> 7200 can have problems if you can not get the DMA to work on the hard
>> drive and have to capture with PIO. However, with cheap price of
>> drives why anyone would even talk about slower drives is beyond me.
>
>I'm using a laptop and the highest capacity laptop drives are all 4200
>rpm.

 

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"Paul Rubin" <http://phr.cx@NOSPAM.invalid> wrote in message anyone
would even talk about slower drives is beyond me.
:
: I'm using a laptop and the highest capacity laptop drives are all 4200
: rpm.

I second that. It's too pricey to buy a comparable 5400 rpm drive.
Remember, the laptops do run hot and the faster the drive, the hotter
(usually) the hard drive runs.

I am waiting for a 7200 rpm drive right now along with an external
enclosure I ordered a week before Boxing Day. But I doubt it will
arrive. My parcel is MIA.

 

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Why anyone around a Frys store would order drives and inclosures on
line is beyond me. Wait until they have a sale and even the external
drives are so friggin dirt cheap.


On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 23:06:21 GMT, "Mark" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>"Paul Rubin" <http://phr.cx@NOSPAM.invalid> wrote in message anyone
>would even talk about slower drives is beyond me.
>:
>: I'm using a laptop and the highest capacity laptop drives are all 4200
>: rpm.
>
>I second that. It's too pricey to buy a comparable 5400 rpm drive.
>Remember, the laptops do run hot and the faster the drive, the hotter
>(usually) the hard drive runs.
>
>I am waiting for a 7200 rpm drive right now along with an external
>enclosure I ordered a week before Boxing Day. But I doubt it will
>arrive. My parcel is MIA.
>

 

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Unfortunately, not in my next of woods (Canada). External drives are
still quite expensive. The best option is to buy a drive and enclosure
separately.

"Donald Link" <linkd@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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: Why anyone around a Frys store would order drives and inclosures on
: line is beyond me. Wait until they have a sale and even the external
: drives are so friggin dirt cheap.

 

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There is Ebay. It is better to buy seperatly if you know a little
about setting it up.

On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 06:58:26 GMT, "Mark" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>Unfortunately, not in my next of woods (Canada). External drives are
>still quite expensive. The best option is to buy a drive and enclosure
>separately.
>
>"Donald Link" <linkd@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:e0oet0l0glj3d2s3c32kj2i2o4tk13h2sm@4ax.com...
>: Why anyone around a Frys store would order drives and inclosures on
>: line is beyond me. Wait until they have a sale and even the external
>: drives are so friggin dirt cheap.
>

 

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On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 19:57:36 GMT, Donald Link <linkd@mindspring.com>
wrote:

>There is Ebay. It is better to buy seperatly if you know a little
>about setting it up.
>
>On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 06:58:26 GMT, "Mark" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>Unfortunately, not in my next of woods (Canada). External drives are
>>still quite expensive. The best option is to buy a drive and enclosure
>>separately.
>>
>>"Donald Link" <linkd@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>news:e0oet0l0glj3d2s3c32kj2i2o4tk13h2sm@4ax.com...
>>: Why anyone around a Frys store would order drives and inclosures on
>>: line is beyond me. Wait until they have a sale and even the external
>>: drives are so friggin dirt cheap.
>>
I picked up my Maxtor SATA133 80gig drive on ebay summer of 03 for 79
bucks plus shipping. Brand new with warranty ans still going strong.
Also got a Seagate Barracuda ATA IV for around 45 bucks (40gig)
You should be able to get a new drive on ebay for a buck a gig or even
cheaper these days.

 

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A buck a gig is expensive. Frys has a 200 gig for $70 after rebate.
That figures out to a lot less than a dollar.

On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:41:12 -0600, none <Vampyres@nettaxi.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 19:57:36 GMT, Donald Link <linkd@mindspring.com>
>wrote:
>
>>There is Ebay. It is better to buy seperatly if you know a little
>>about setting it up.
>>
>>On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 06:58:26 GMT, "Mark" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Unfortunately, not in my next of woods (Canada). External drives are
>>>still quite expensive. The best option is to buy a drive and enclosure
>>>separately.
>>>
>>>"Donald Link" <linkd@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>news:e0oet0l0glj3d2s3c32kj2i2o4tk13h2sm@4ax.com...
>>>: Why anyone around a Frys store would order drives and inclosures on
>>>: line is beyond me. Wait until they have a sale and even the external
>>>: drives are so friggin dirt cheap.
>>>
>I picked up my Maxtor SATA133 80gig drive on ebay summer of 03 for 79
>bucks plus shipping. Brand new with warranty ans still going strong.
>Also got a Seagate Barracuda ATA IV for around 45 bucks (40gig)
>You should be able to get a new drive on ebay for a buck a gig or even
>cheaper these days.

 

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The shipping and Customs charges is what kills the deal on Ebay.

"Donald Link" <linkd@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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: There is Ebay. It is better to buy seperatly if you know a little
: about setting it up.

 

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Mark wrote:

> : Will it work, yes, but it will be painfully slow. A few of the
> reasons they
> : use those slow as molasses drives in notebooks is for reduced heat and
> power
> : consumption. Other than that, the slow drives kill the performance of
> the
> : notebooks.
>
> I know, I noticed that speed issue right away just booting up, disk
> defraging, and copying CD's. Unfortunately, at this time it is not
> worthwhile for me to upgrade my new drive in the laptop to a 80 or 100G
> 5400 rpm drive until the drives are less expensive. That's one reason
> why I ordered a WD 200G 7200 rpm drive. In fact, I am only using 8G
> right now for apps and data. I can always buy an external case and
> house the hard drive and swap a DVD drive as need be, but I can't run
> both at the same time unless I have two external USB cases. I dunno how
> that will affect the read/write speeds if run simulataneously.
>
> The industry needs to implement better cooling for notebooks. I am going
> to buy a laptop cooler to cool down my Dell even more, but nothing is
> better than extra internal case fans for the laptops.

I've been using a 7200 RPM Hitachi HDD in my ThinkPad (1.3 Pentium M &
512 MB RAM) since June - big boost in performance and no cooling
problems. I don't do video on it, however, for that I use my Dim 4550
with a couple of 200GB HDDs.