[SOLVED] 5900X CinebenchR23 low score

[amitdad.playboy99]

I am running 45.00 cpu ratio in bios on my 5900x using asus x570 e gaming mobo
i am getting 22500 multi core score and 1460 single core score in cinebench r23
but on the up side i have much reduced temps now and also improved fps by 5-10% depending on game
what should i do to improve single core score?

 

[white.a.drew]

I am running 45.00 cpu ratio in bios on my 5900x using asus x570 e gaming mobo
i am getting 22500 multi core score and 1460 single core score in cinebench r23
but on the up side i have much reduced temps now and also improved fps by 5-10% depending on game
what should i do to improve single core score?

Only thing you can really do to boost single core is boost main core ratio up a little where you have the option to set the individual core ratio boost the main core by 3%

 

[amitdad.playboy99]

i tried increasing that to 46.00 then it booted up but while running cine bench pc restarted so i went back to 45.00
i didnt change voltage settings its on auto should i change that also?
what would be safe value for it
its a brand new pc only 2 weeks old also i dont know much about overclocking its my 1st overclocable pc

 

[white.a.drew]

i tried increasing that to 46.00 then it booted up but while running cine bench pc restarted so i went back to 45.00
i didnt change voltage settings its on auto should i change that also?
what would be safe value for it
its a brand new pc only 2 weeks old also i dont know much about overclocking its my 1st overclocable pc

I know nothing on the 5000 series volts wise I'm sorry I've hardly had the pleasure of playing with these cpus and the ones I have have had no need for oc.... I do know that ryzen cpus are very very very very very touchy on their volts and .01v over their dedicated boosting limits will almost garenty sadness

 

[amitdad.playboy99]

anybody else can help with 5900x volts for more clock speed on all cores?
thanks for help @white.a.drew

 

[CountMike]

anybody else can help with 5900x volts for more clock speed on all cores?
thanks for help @white.a.drew

1.33v is max recommended voltage for all Zen3 but let temperature be your guide. No use of higher frequencies and voltages if it starts to lower IPC because of high temps.
What are you cooling it with ?

 

[amitdad.playboy99]

i am using corsair h150i elite cappelix
in HWinfo64 max voltage is 1.281 and volatges while running cinebench r23 for 10min run is 1.208
temps are also good in quite mode it goes till 85 running cinebench and in balanced stays around 79-80 for 10min runs didnt feel need to run extreme mode

 

[drea.drechsler]

I am running 45.00 cpu ratio in bios on my 5900x using asus x570 e gaming mobo
i am getting 22500 multi core score and 1460 single core score in cinebench r23
but on the up side i have much reduced temps now and also improved fps by 5-10% depending on game
what should i do to improve single core score?

Manually overclocking of Ryzen, especially 3rd and 4th gen, isn't usually very beneficial. It's easy to kill performance for light threaded work, as you have, unless you push clocks close to the max boost clock. To do that you have to also raise voltage very high and then temperatures go crazy even with very good cooling. And that's also when CPU degradation becomes something to worry about.

The best way to overclock 4th gen is to enable PBO and use the curver optimizer. Temperatures can also go higher, while you can limit that with a SLIGHT under-volting you will need better cooling. You may not think it's 'overclock' because it doesn't necessarily raise the top clocks but instead raises the mid-range and, especially, the minimum or base clock it will run at in heavy work loads when temperatures go high. That's similar to what you've done with your manual overclock, but it's also still able to boost to maximum clocks for single threads. As well it's still able to lower voltage and clocks to keep temp from going crazy and degrading your expensive CPU.

Also a major benefit is being sure to run high-clocked memory, 3600 at least but more than that only if you can do it without de-syncing the IF.

 

[amitdad.playboy99]

following are my full system specs
5900x
asus x570 e gaming
gskill trident z royale 16x2 3600mhz
corsair h150i elite capellix
gigabyte vision rtx 3080
corsair hx1000
monitor is 1440p 144hz lg 27gl850
so what setting would you suggest me @drea.drechsler ?
i use my system only for gaming
with everything at stock and only using ram at xmp i was getting 20500 multicore score in cinebench r23 temps would be around 85
and in games running ingame benchmarks for assassins creed odysse max setings 80 fps , horizon zero dawn all ultra 124 fps temps would be around 70
after using all core 45.00 i got 22500 multicore in cinebench r23 and temps droped to 80 and for games fps increased in both by 10% and temps dropped by 10C

 

[drea.drechsler]

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so what setting would you suggest me @drea.drechsler ?
i use my system only for gaming
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First is to put voltage and clock back to AUTO.

If you haven't, enable XMP and get 3600 memory clock speed. Overclocking beyond that is probably possible but it entails tweaking with memory voltage and many other memory timings and settings. There are some tools to help with that but get a stable CPU overclock first. Even at 3600 you'll probably have excessive lag due to memory latency from the loose XMP timings being used but at least you get the benefit of the faster IF clock speed.

Then enable PBO; that alone should net you a performance improvement in CB23 multi-thread without any degradation in single thread. Pushing up the PPT/EDC/TDC limits should improve it even more. Don't be shy as your motherboard is quite capable of handling any power or current draw that CPU might impose on it.

I'm not really all that familiar with optimizing PBO for Ryzen 5000, and especially not running the Curve Optimizer. I'd go looking for some how-to's, google is your friend. Once you've got something you like, also try undervolting SLIGHTLY. But use only offset's. NEVER use a fixed voltage with any Ryzen CPU.

Here's one:
https://hothardware.com/reviews/amd-power-curve-optimizer-guide-zen-3

EDIT: as far as temps go, if you're coming from an older Intel system forget what you think you know about CPU temp as Ryzen uses a 'hot spot' sensor system. That means what you see is the hottest sensor among several dozen on the CPU dies. Also, the 7nm process makes it hard to quickly remove heat across a tiny surface area. AMD has stated it's expected and 'by design' to see temps upwards of 90c in heavy process loads. Ryzen also boosts aggressively so it's common to see fairly high temp spikes even when at idle; so set your fan curves appropriately.

 

[amitdad.playboy99]

Thanks for help will search on Google and try to do it properly

 

[amitdad.playboy99]

Just for my knowledge is using the cpu all core ratio to keep clocks at 4500mhz bad for ryzen cpu with auto voltages?

 

[drea.drechsler]

Just for my knowledge is using the cpu all core ratio to keep clocks at 4500mhz bad for ryzen cpu with auto voltages?

if it remains stable probably not. But it definitely hurts performance, light to moderated threaded performance in particular which is what helps most with gaming. It might hurt heavy threaded performance too when compared to PBO with decent cooling.

 

[amitdad.playboy99]

It is stable been running it for 2 days now gaming for approx 6-8 hours.
I enabled PBO in bios and did negative offset on curve optimizer it increased the performance but cpu was running at 4.3 ghz all cores also it used 1.4v so temps went upwards of 83C

 

[drea.drechsler]

.... 1.4v so temps went upwards of 83C

83C isn't bad, neither is 1.4V. It commonly raises voltage as high as 1.5V when it boosts, anything done to try and limit that can harm performance. AMD has told us it's normal and expected and 'by design'.

Also, don't be terribly concerned with peak temps or voltage. Get HWInfo64 and look for average voltage or average temp across a period of time. That's the more informative.

Also: do not watch clocks to much. Ryzen is like modern GPU's and it dithers core clocks incessantly and very quickly (100 times per second). You may never see the highest clocks it uses. The only way to assess performance is with benchmarks, and CB23 is probably one of the best: both multi-threaded and single-threaded should be tracked.

One thing I forgot: be certain to install the AMD chipset driver package and get it from the AMD support web site. That's so you get the latest, without the bundled spamware that motherboard mfr's often include.

 

[amitdad.playboy99]

ok thanks