60fps on 3840x2160 60hz comparable to 60fps on a 3440x1440 100hz monitor?

[gasolin]

Still looking for a 4k/uhd 3840x2160 monitor.

I have tried on my acer predator x34 to set it to 60hz didn't looked good when playing games, last night i played an easy game, Need for speed hot persuit which is caped at 60hz and that game is very smooth no blur,lag what so ever.

I was again thinking about 4 k gaming since 3440x1440 100hz g sync on with 60fps was smooth as you could ever expect and i therefor wonder if 60hz with g sync on, on a 3840x2160 60hz monitor (Acer Predator XB321HK) would be comparable to 60 fps on a 3440x1440 100hz monitor?

 

[Th_Redman]

Geez, could you put a period in there to end a sentence? Almost impossible to comprehend the question you're trying to get across to us.

 

[King_V]

What video card are you using?

60fps on a 3840x2160 is going to need more graphics horsepower than to deliver 60fps on a 3440x1440. The lower resolution monitor has only 60% of the number of pixels as the higher resolution monitor.

If you're using an Nvidia card (which model?), then Gsync will help smooth things out, if you've enabled it. But, if you've disabled it, and if you're playing a game your video card struggles to maintain 60fps on, then yeah, you will see some jitters. Or, if Gsync is on and it dips below 30 fps.

Increasing the number of pixels your card has to render will make things worse, not better.

 

[gasolin]

It's not a question of gpu and what settings i need for a ceratain resolution,hz

It's about the smoothness,bluryness,laggyness,stutter experience with 60fps on 3440x1440 100hz vs a 3840x2160 60hz monitor do to the difference of refreshrate the monitors have.

I was wondering if smoothness,bluryness,laggyness,stutter experience was comparable when considering the montors deferent refreshrate.

60fps would that be any different on a 60hz monitor compared to 100hz monitor

I don't know any that has a 3840x2160 monitor or a place where i can game on one, since 100hz do make a difference i would love to know if i could live with a only 60hz high end uhd monitor when gaming.

If so i know that if i bought a 3840x2160 60hz g sync (or freesync) monitor the soothness,stutternes,laggyness,stutter would be as good as 60fps on my 3440x1440 100hz g sync monitor, need for speed hot persuit 60fps runs just fine, no problem for me that it's not above 80-90 fps

(let's just pretend that need for speed hot persuit could be run at 60fps at 3840x2160 since it's such an easy game for a pc to handle)

 

[dextermat]

It's not a question of gpu and what settings i need for a ceratain resolution,hz

I' m sorry but the gpu will have a huge impact,

to play

60fps on 38400x2160 60hz 4k

you need top CPU / GPU to have a buttery smooth experience.

Something along the lines of i7-8700k overclocked close to 5 ghz and at least a 1070 ti but better a 1080 ti.
Anything below that will get will struggle to get solid 60 fps.

Also depends on what games you plan to play

 

[King_V]

If you do not force your 3440 monitor to run 100Hz, and let it either be 60, or let it use Gsync, then it will be smooth.

Going to a monitor with more pixels will not cause gameplay to be any smoother at 60Hz than using a monitor with fewer pixels. 60Hz is 60Hz regardless of what the monitor's resolution is.

 

[feelinfroggy777]

Still looking for a 4k/uhd 3840x2160 monitor.

I have tried on my acer predator x34 to set it to 60hz didn't looked good when playing games, last night i played an easy game, Need for speed hot persuit which is caped at 60hz and that game is very smooth no blur,lag what so ever.

I was again thinking about 4 k gaming since 3440x1440 100hz g sync on with 60fps was smooth as you could ever expect and i therefor wonder if 60hz with g sync on, on a 3840x2160 60hz monitor (Acer Predator XB321HK) would be comparable to 60 fps on a 3440x1440 100hz monitor?

I have both the predator x34 and the predator xb32 (yes, I am a junkie don't judge). Gsync really helps with the smoothness at 4k. But there are some games that I still don't like it. So when I play fast pace fps games, I use the ultrawide for the extra 100hz. But when I play RPG type games, I go with the 4k panel. You cant imagine how good Witcher 3 looks at butter smooth 4k. For some of the slower games, I don't notice the lower fps, because of gsync.

But new high refresh rate 4k monitors should be released this year, so it may be best to hold with what you got till they are available, assuming you have the cash cause they wont be cheap.

 

[gasolin]

If you do not force your 3440 monitor to run 100Hz, and let it either be 60, or let it use Gsync, then it will be smooth.

Going to a monitor with more pixels will not cause gameplay to be any smoother at 60Hz than using a monitor with fewer pixels. 60Hz is 60Hz regardless of what the monitor's resolution is.

the question is without setting my predator x34 to 60 hz would 100hz settings make it more smooth,less blury......when playing a 60hz game compared to 60fps on a 60hz monitor do to the monitors max refreshrate.

It could also be 60fps on a 60hz monitor vs 60fps on a 100hz monitor forget about gpu,resolution, i just included 3840x2160 because that is what im thinking of upgrading to.

I have heard a few say even when you don't have same fps as the monitors refreshrate, lets say 60 fps and 100hz monitor it still make a difference using a high hz monitor compared to 60fps on a 60 hz monitor

 

[gasolin]

Still looking for a 4k/uhd 3840x2160 monitor.

I have tried on my acer predator x34 to set it to 60hz didn't looked good when playing games, last night i played an easy game, Need for speed hot persuit which is caped at 60hz and that game is very smooth no blur,lag what so ever.

I was again thinking about 4 k gaming since 3440x1440 100hz g sync on with 60fps was smooth as you could ever expect and i therefor wonder if 60hz with g sync on, on a 3840x2160 60hz monitor (Acer Predator XB321HK) would be comparable to 60 fps on a 3440x1440 100hz monitor?

I have both the predator x34 and the predator xb32 (yes, I am a junkie don't judge). Gsync really helps with the smoothness at 4k. But there are some games that I still don't like it. So when I play fast pace fps games, I use the ultrawide for the extra 100hz. But when I play RPG type games, I go with the 4k panel. You cant imagine how good Witcher 3 looks at butter smooth 4k. For some of the slower games, I don't notice the lower fps, because of gsync.

But new high refresh rate 4k monitors should be released this year, so it may be best to hold with what you got till they are available, assuming you have the cash cause they wont be cheap.

I don't have the cash for a new 144hz 4k monitors. Acer Predator X27 27" 4K (144hz) costs more than 2000€ i could only if i get a good price for my predator x34 buy a 1000€ monitor like the Acer Predator XB321HK monitor, yes it's 1000€ in europe in fact just a bit more (1020€)

 

[King_V]

If you do not force your 3440 monitor to run 100Hz, and let it either be 60, or let it use Gsync, then it will be smooth.

Going to a monitor with more pixels will not cause gameplay to be any smoother at 60Hz than using a monitor with fewer pixels. 60Hz is 60Hz regardless of what the monitor's resolution is.

the question is without setting my predator x34 to 60 hz would 100hz settings make it more smooth,less blury......when playing a 60hz game compared to 60fps on a 60hz monitor do to the monitors max refreshrate.

There is no such thing as a "60Hz game"

If you set the monitor at a FIXED 100Hz, and disable G-Sync, then it MIGHT be less smooth IF the video card cannot maintain a constant 100fps for that game and the settings you have for that game.

The monitor's max refresh rate is completely irrelevant if you set it to a fixed 60Hz for example. AGAIN it will be NO DIFFERENT.

It could also be 60fps on a 60hz monitor vs 60hz on a 100hz monitor forget about gpu,resolution, i just included 3840x2160 because that is what im thinking of upgrading to.

ONCE AGAIN - The monitor's max refresh rate is completely irrelevant if you set it to a fixed 60Hz. It will be NO DIFFERENT.

I have heard a few say even when you don't have same fps as the monitors refreshrate, lets say 60 fps and 100hz monitor it still make a difference using a high hz monitor compared to 60fps on a 60 hz monitor

This statement is confusing. If you SET the monitor to 100Hz, and disable any adaptive refresh rate, then of course a game playing at 60fps will not be as smooth. If the monitor's max refresh rate is 100Hz, but you SET it to 60Hz, and play a game at 60fps, then it will be THE SAME as a monitor with a max of 60Hz.

 

[gasolin]

What do you mean by 60hz game?

A game like need for speed hot persuit is capped at 60fps

 

[King_V]

I don't know what you want here.

You asked if a monitor being run at 60Hz whose max refresh is higher than 60Hz will be less smooth than a monitor whose max refresh is 60Hz.

Multiple times, the answer has been given to you, and that answer is NO.

So, forgive me if this sounds unduly harsh, but, it SEEMS like you keep rephrasing things because you want the answer to be YES, for reasons I can't begin to guess at.

You're not going to get YES as an answer to that question here, no matter how you reword the same question.

 

[gasolin]

60 fps since normally a 3840x2160 monitor i limited to a refreshrate of 60hz

I have a 100hz monitor which isn't smooth playing at 60hz

But at 100hz it's more than okay when i play need for speed hot persuit at 60fps.

I don't know anybody with a 3840x2160 monitor with g sync so i don't know how smooth it is playing games at such a resloution and with g sync.

I do have to sell my current monitor if i want a 3840x2160 g sync monitor and there for if i buy one i can't return it and use my current monitor predator x34 instead

 

[feelinfroggy777]

I have a 100hz monitor which isn't smooth playing at 60hz

Then you are not doing something right. What makes game play smooth at lower frame rates is variable refresh (gsync). Variable refresh lowers your monitor's refresh rate to match your GPU output, syncing the two together. So if your monitor is running 100hz and your are playing 60fps, it is not going to be smooth. There will be screen tearing if you dont enable gsync or vsync.

If you are wanting to get into 4k gaming and want a smooth experience, then you must get a monitor with gsync or live with the lag of vsync. If you cant afford gsync on 4k, then you should wait.

Additionally, if you dont have a 1080ti, then there is really no reason to consider a 4k monitor for gaming. Especially if you want smooth game play because you wont be able to hit 60fps. Higher frame rate makes smoother game play.

Here is a good article about gsync. It is kinda long, but it will tell you all about it and what settings to use. Because to get the most out of gsync, then you have to play with the settings.

https://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/gsync101-input-lag-tests-and-settings/

 

[gasolin]

I have a 100hz monitor which isn't smooth playing at 60hz

Then you are not doing something right. What makes game play smooth at lower frame rates is variable refresh (gsync). Variable refresh lowers your monitor's refresh rate to match your GPU output, syncing the two together. So if your monitor is running 100hz and your are playing 60fps, it is not going to be smooth. There will be screen tearing if you dont enable gsync or vsync.

If you are wanting to get into 4k gaming and want a smooth experience, then you must get a monitor with gsync or live with the lag of vsync. If you cant afford gsync on 4k, then you should wait.

Additionally, if you dont have a 1080ti, then there is really no reason to consider a 4k monitor for gaming. Especially if you want smooth game play because you wont be able to hit 60fps. Higher frame rate makes smoother game play.

Here is a good article about gsync. It is kinda long, but it will tell you all about it and what settings to use. Because to get the most out of gsync, then you have to play with the settings.

https://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/gsync101-input-lag-tests-and-settings/

You don't know what games i play and last but not least 3840x2160 60hz is about the same in bandwith as 3440x1440 100hz
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