650 watt psu enough for msi r9 390x ?

[Christoffer96]

hi guys i just switched out my gtx 970 for a r9 390x, on the box it says it recommend 750watt, but i asked around and they said that my evga supernova g2 gold 650watt will be enough, so i just have to double check with the specialists to make sure its really enough , thanks!
i mostly plan to game on it .

System:
i5-4690k
8gb 1600mhz ram
gpu: msi r9 390x 8gb
PSU: Evga supernova g2 gold 650watt.

 

[TysonY2]

You should be okay, but it'd be pretty close. I've been running an r9 290 and 4690k off 620 watts, and all are overclocked. No issues, but its definitely red lining its potential. Better safe than sorry.

 

[krells]

A high quality 650w psu like yours will be fine. Minimum power requirements are 550-600:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/powercolor-radeon-r9-390-pcs-8gb-review,8.html

 

[Christoffer96]

You should be okay, but it'd be pretty close. I've been running an r9 290 and 4690k off 620 watts, and all are overclocked. No issues, but its definitely red lining its potential. Better safe than sorry.

Thanks for your reply, i just checked this stress test (not gaming test) http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-390x-r9-380-r7-370,4178-10.html

And max is 363, doesnt that mean i have alot to go on or is it only the gpu's watt they're recording?

 

[ko888]

Thanks for your reply, i just checked this stress test (not gaming test) http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-390x-r9-380-r7-370,4178-10.html

And max is 363, doesnt that mean i have alot to go on or is it only the gpu's watt they're recording?

That power consumption figure is for the graphics card only.

If you don't overclock the GPU then it should just be enough.

 

[Christoffer96]

A high quality 650w psu like yours will be fine. Minimum power requirements are 550-600:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/powercolor-radeon-r9-390-pcs-8gb-review,8.html

Thanks for your link ! so i don't have to be afraid that my system fails on me over some years of gaming then?

 

[Christoffer96]

Thanks for your reply, i just checked this stress test (not gaming test) http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-390x-r9-380-r7-370,4178-10.html

And max is 363, doesnt that mean i have alot to go on or is it only the gpu's watt they're recording?

That power consumption figure is for the graphics card only.

If you don't overclock the GPU then it should just be enough.

ohh ok! so i should be able to game on highest settings without that my system crashes then ?thanks.

 

[TysonY2]

Yes. I ran a watt meter off the setup I said previously, and I rarely go above ~525 watts. Thats also 8 fans, a pump, lights, etc, so you'll be fine.

 

[MarkW]

You want to try to run your power supply at between 40% and 65% load for best efficiency. That is why they recommend the 750 watt power supply. Running a higher or lower load than that, and you waste more and more power trying to get the power the system needs.

 

[ko888]

Thanks for your reply, i just checked this stress test (not gaming test) http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-390x-r9-380-r7-370,4178-10.html

And max is 363, doesnt that mean i have alot to go on or is it only the gpu's watt they're recording?

That power consumption figure is for the graphics card only.

If you don't overclock the GPU then it should just be enough.

ohh ok! so i should be able to game on highest settings without that my system crashes then ?thanks.

Yes.

System crashes may also happen due to device driver or application problems so don't automatically assume that it's due to inadequate power. You have to look at the symptoms to determine the cause.

 

[Christoffer96]

Thanks for your reply, i just checked this stress test (not gaming test) http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-390x-r9-380-r7-370,4178-10.html

And max is 363, doesnt that mean i have alot to go on or is it only the gpu's watt they're recording?

That power consumption figure is for the graphics card only.

If you don't overclock the GPU then it should just be enough.

ohh ok! so i should be able to game on highest settings without that my system crashes then ?thanks.

Yes.

System crashes may also happen due to device driver or application problems so don't automatically assume that it's due to inadequate power. You have to look at the symptoms to determine the cause.

Awesome! i feel safe now to open the box and set the bad boy in! only one question i came to think off i know there is no word as "futureproof" but how long do you think this card will hold in gaming at 1080p or /and 1440? thanks alot for your time!

 

[Christoffer96]

You want to try to run your power supply at between 40% and 65% load for best efficiency. That is why they recommend the 750 watt power supply. Running a higher or lower load than that, and you waste more and more power trying to get the power the system needs.

Okay nice tip but i have no idea how to do that, im so bad with psus ,

since i see you have the psu badge i hope you not mind a question... a worker at the retail store i bough the gpu from said that even if it only reaches 500watt on a 650 watt system it will affect the longtivity of the system? is he right or?

 

[ko888]

Awesome! i feel safe now to open the box and set the bad boy in! only one question i came to think off i know there is no word as "futureproof" but how long do you think this card will hold in gaming at 1080p or /and 1440? thanks alot for your time!

There are current games that already don't run well with that graphic card when the graphics quality is turned up:

Assassin's Creed Unity @ 2560x1440 4xAA is already below 30 FPS (i.e. 25.9 FPS)

Crysis 3 @ 2560x1440 4xAA is at 33.4 FPS

 

[Christoffer96]

Awesome! i feel safe now to open the box and set the bad boy in! only one question i came to think off i know there is no word as "futureproof" but how long do you think this card will hold in gaming at 1080p or /and 1440? thanks alot for your time!

There are current games that already don't run well with that graphic card when the graphics quality is turned up:

Assassin's Creed Unity @ 2560x1440 4xAA is already below 30 FPS (i.e. 25.9 FPS)

Crysis 3 @ 2560x1440 4xAA is at 33.4 FPS

but still its better than the 980? which is more than 100dollars in my country(msi version) so im actually happy about this benchmark

 

[MarkW]

You want to try to run your power supply at between 40% and 65% load for best efficiency. That is why they recommend the 750 watt power supply. Running a higher or lower load than that, and you waste more and more power trying to get the power the system needs.

Okay nice tip but i have no idea how to do that, im so bad with psus ,

since i see you have the psu badge i hope you not mind a question... a worker at the retail store i bough the gpu from said that even if it only reaches 500watt on a 650 watt system it will affect the longtivity of the system? is he right or?

They recommended a 750 watt power supply. So they already figured that all out for you. If you buy a quality 750 watt power supply, and not a box of junk, you will be using between 40% and 65% load on the power supply.

 

[MarkW]

In the next 5 to 8 months, the video card industry is going to change radically. AMD and Nvidia are finally producing GPU's on 16nm nodes, instead of the 28nm nodes they have been stuck on for almost 4 years now.

What does that mean for us? Well, to start with, GPU's will be as much as 65% faster, use less power, have much faster HBM2 memory, and most video cards will have 8GB of video ram. All at about the same prices cards today are selling at. These will also be the first new GPU's to come to market since DirectX 12 was completed. So they will support more or maybe even all of the DX12 features. Todays cards support some DX12 features, but they vary in how many and what they actually do support.

So whatever you buy today, is going to be challenged in 9 months or less. If that. An R9 390X is a pretty good card with its 8GB of memory. But it is still a rebranded R9 290X with more memory, which was probably a 7970 before it was rebranded to R9 290X. Being stuck on the 28nm node for 4 years has hurt video card sales. These new from the ground up cards should sell like hotcakes. And due to DX12, everything will change. Nvidia and AMD will be back in parity on drivers. AMD might actually have a small advantage on this, since DX12 is pretty much AMD Mantle, but for all video cards. AMD spent quite a bit time working with Microsoft's engineers to get DX12 right on Windows 10. AMD also has experience now with HBM memory. Nvidia will be using it for the first time.

So starting probably in April 2016, and continuing on throughout the year and maybe even into 2017, AMD and Nvidia will be releasing new video card after new video card. It should be an amazing year for gamers!

 

[Christoffer96]

In the next 5 to 8 months, the video card industry is going to change radically. AMD and Nvidia are finally producing GPU's on 16nm nodes, instead of the 28nm nodes they have been stuck on for almost 4 years now.

What does that mean for us? Well, to start with, GPU's will be as much as 65% faster, use less power, have much faster HBM2 memory, and most video cards will have 8GB of video ram. All at about the same prices cards today are selling at. These will also be the first new GPU's to come to market since DirectX 12 was completed. So they will support more or maybe even all of the DX12 features. Todays cards support some DX12 features, but they vary in how many and what they actually do support.

So whatever you buy today, is going to be challenged in 9 months or less. If that. An R9 390X is a pretty good card with its 8GB of memory. But it is still a rebranded R9 290X with more memory, which was probably a 7970 before it was rebranded to R9 290X. Being stuck on the 28nm node for 4 years has hurt video card sales. These new from the ground up cards should sell like hotcakes. And due to DX12, everything will change. Nvidia and AMD will be back in parity on drivers. AMD might actually have a small advantage on this, since DX12 is pretty much AMD Mantle, but for all video cards. AMD spent quite a bit time working with Microsoft's engineers to get DX12 right on Windows 10. AMD also has experience now with HBM memory. Nvidia will be using it for the first time.

So starting probably in April 2016, and continuing on throughout the year and maybe even into 2017, AMD and Nvidia will be releasing new video card after new video card. It should be an amazing year for gamers!

Wow sounds fantastic if it actually will work like that! hope so! but a 390x will not just suddenly be useless when they release that i hope?

 

[MarkW]

No, it won't become suddenly useless. First of all, as of right now, there are no DX12 games released yet. A few tech demos have been released, but they are not full blown games, and the devs admit they are still figuring DX12 out. My this time next year, I expect we will see a bunch of DX12 games available though. And I expect that a lot of existing games will also upgrade to DX12. Most will not though.

My crystal ball broke many years ago, so the best I can do is guestimate. MY guesstimate would be that the R9 390X should be quite useful for you for a good 2 to 3 years, possibly more.

 

[Christoffer96]

No, it won't become suddenly useless. First of all, as of right now, there are no DX12 games released yet. A few tech demos have been released, but they are not full blown games, and the devs admit they are still figuring DX12 out. My this time next year, I expect we will see a bunch of DX12 games available though. And I expect that a lot of existing games will also upgrade to DX12. Most will not though.

My crystal ball broke many years ago, so the best I can do is guestimate. MY guesstimate would be that the R9 390X should be quite useful for you for a good 2 to 3 years, possibly more.

Glad to hear, im about to tame the bad boy and put it in the case now before night so im leaving, but a huge thanks to you for your time and help!