6870 vs 6950

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First things first. Do you have up to date directx and video drivers? And also, consider some games are "badly written" and some effects might hinder the performance. For example Trine (and gpus overheating), World of Tanks zoom in and (fps dropping to 10) and stuff like that.
Try a modern game, one that tomshardware is testing gpus to be sure.
 


Which is why I am saying he needs to overclock his CPU, it is not a bottleneck, it is just he is CPU bound at such a low resolution.

Also, no caps please.
 
Dear Robjordy , I Think your Problem is your Resolution , its Not that high for ATi 6870 , but anyway its High Res , & cpu has less to do , so i think its res , or bottleneck from other hardware . DAMN BOTTLENECK , so why do we Pay for These New HArdwares if There are Lot of Compatiblity , Optimization , Programming , Bug or ... Problems !!!!

& LETS ANswer to you all :

First See my Rig Specs :

Mobo: MSI 790FX-GD70 ( quad Crossfire ) Gaming Series

VGA: ATI 6870 Twinfrozr ( its default was 920Mhz & not 900 Like all other Gpus ) & i am using Latest Catalyst & latest Netframe work & other things ...

RAM: 2x2GB DDR3 1333Mhz SUpertalent
HDD : Hitachi 7200RPM , 16Mb Buffer , 500GB ( always Defraged & i keep my OS Drive Free & other Drivers are ALmost Empty !!!

Windows : Current is win 7 Ultimate 32bit , i tried 32 bit 7 , 7 Home , XP 32bit , 7 + DX9 Mode .

PSU : 685Watt , 80+ , 50I , Crossfire & SLi ready !!!! Gaming Series

& whatta Hell , 8GB ram ? what do i need it for ? I ran DEVMODE in Crysis ( the code that you can make it Third person ) & i saw that I uses Less than 1.5 GB Ram !

Second , i cant OC my CPu , there is no way , Because it might cause Damage , it Already Runs Too damn hot , I keep it Cool With other Things , with cool case , cool room , cooler , after market Cooler & its 60 C at game ( thank god )! GPU too !

Non of my Friends around have i5 or i7 to i can try my Gpu on it , I am sure that my VGA IS very Strong for Just a little 1440x900 & few high Setings & aa off . ALL OF MY GAMES RUN GREAT ! BUT Crysis , Damn Crysis !

But In other Hand < amd Is More Compatible with my Hardwares, Second I hear that it Wont Bottleneck unless you Do Crossfire , SO how hard is it To Transfer Data For Single ATi 6870 with no slowdown ?!?!?!

New GPU ( no way ) , Crossfire ( not at all ) , OC ( Dont even think about it ) , Upgrade to Strong intel CPu Sandy i5 2400 , because i dont Need K for OC . i5 2400 has already a Great CPU . isnt it ?

Tell me What should i DO ? No Bottleneck Detecting Software to Find Out ?

 
You know what the real funny part is ; i'm totally fed up with the 560TI i have because of these problems and i bought a 6870 three weeks ago. ( didn't have time yet to switch them ) ( spending too much time at forums . . . ? :lol: ) and now you're telling you have about the same problem with a . . . 6870. Yeah ! FUNNY !!! :cry:
Anyway, i'll make the switch later this week i hope, i'll let you know if there is a difference.
Btw ; i think an extra 2 ram will be nice for your rig, i played at start with the GTX465 and 4G Ram and later 6G ( now 8 ) and there was a noticeble difference in performance. ( not so between 6 and 8, so 6 is probably enough )
 
But WHy there should be Difference if game doesnt even use 4 GB ! 🙁

But Away if it was Like that , then Why 64 bit & 32Bit DIDnt Bring Any Difference for me !

MAN Its New problem ! What should i REALy do ? Upgrade cpu . now you say more Ram will be better ! oh Oh OHHHHH !

More ram means More Bottleneck or less ? DAMN Bottleneck Now i should Afraid of Each Step i take Because this Damn Bottleneck Can Be Noticible , if you take Wrong Step !

you Realy DIDnt Switch them in those 3 Weeks ? Man ! but why have you bought 6870 ? 560 ti & 6870 have Very Close Performance ( correct me If i am W ) !

You Could buy 6970 & BE Happy 4Ever ! i am sure you wouldnt get those Little Lags . But Realy Can 2 or 4 More Ram Make a Difference ????

I have DDR 2 800Mhz Ram on my Other PC , 2x2GB ! now will they help or i should get same Ram that I have in my Case right now ?
 
For RAM : i saw CLIp in Youtube , Crossfired 6850 , with i7 CPU or i5 ( i dont Remember that well ) & 24GB OF ram 1333Mhz !!!!!!

& game Would Run at 50 FPs ! I think 24 was that much that caused Bottleneck , because , Ram is a Space & should be Handled by CPu , i think it Takes CPU time too !!!!

but away i read that few Strong ram( 4Gb 1333Mhz ) is Better than , 8 GB of Weak Ram ( 600-800 )

But 8GB 1333MHz is Another thing , it might be Great Speed up plan or great bottleneck ! hehe
 
Quote ; You Could buy 6970 & BE Happy 4Ever
I KNOW !, for the money of the 560 and 6870 i could have bought a real killer. You don't wanne know how stupid i feel because of this. :cry:
About the Ram ; It really did make a difference with the GTX465, it was the difference between a little bit stuttering and complete smooth going pictures at high res.
I'll take one strip out this evening, go back to 6 to see if 8 is bottlenecking and causing my problem.
Not sure if DDR 2 will work with DDR 3, don't think so actually. Anyway trying the Ram upgrade will be one of the cheapest upgrades i think, so you can't really go wrong there. ( maybe when my system works better with 6 you can try mine :lol: )
 
Oh HEHE 😀 . Man but Listen , more Ram is For high Resolution i think , I am using 1440x900 & not that high like yours !! so why do i need that extra 2 Gb ? just like they say , 2Gb VGa card is for Veyr high resoltuion & VERY High AA !

I mean How do i know if Bottleneck Gonna be more or EVEN LESSS ? by Adding 2Gb more or 4Gb more RAM ?

DOnt Worry , these Days , how much you pay will be worhtless . PC wolrd works like this , they finally gonna make game that will need 60 Core CPU with 1000Gb of RAM HEHE !

But In other hand i think 6950 or 6870 + Enough RAM + i5 2400 = will be Great & Less Bottleneck Danger !!! i5 2400 gonna Make everything Fine I think .

For me , its hard to Buy i5 2400 , its not matter of money , i promised that i wont Talk about Upgrade ,but Now i realy have to Make them , but Just one Upgrade ONLY !!!

Just answer me ? 6GB ram or 8Gb ? if 6 to 8GB will make 1-2 Fps then i dont need & i will take 6gb it but , if its Matter of Over 5 Fps or 10 , then i think i will take 8Gb option !

& please tell me if it might Rise up the Bottleneck !!! or Even make it less ! Experienced members We need you Down here . give some opinion Plz
 


I agree. OC the CPU. I have the Phenom 550 BE running @ 3.6 GHz and I have never had a bottleneck. It is very easy to check if this is the problem. Start the PC, OC the CPU and play a game. If it is better then you know it is the CPU.
 


It really would. The card is a decent jump. For a lot of games upwards to 40%

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/291?vs=292

Anybody who says a 6850 is over kill for your resolution obviously doesn't think of anything in the future, or play games like Metro or Crysis.

At the end of the day "I" would buy a 6950 though.

While you're at it, why not a 2500 core i5?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i5-2500-2400-2300_6.html#sect1
 
Well you know , i saw almost Same FPS in a video About Both 6870 & 6970 , by the away if your game VGA Rendering Part is Fine but you need little More CPu Power then , upgrade of CPu is Only Solution .

I Feel that my VGA card Is not the Problem , because why 1440x900 & aa off should be that hard to render ? i am sure its about CPU or Something

Robjordy , Bro i dont say that you are wrong but as Much as Researched after your Post , ANy one said that 4Gb of ram is ENough for game & more than that is for other kind of softwares & use .

All i need is to see my Crysis running at 40 or More in heavY Condition . I think if i have strong CPu like i5 2400 then it will be able to transfer all the Data from/ to Vga with no waste of time & simply BottlenecK !!!!

I heard that as Low as Res go , CPu More & Vga Works less , so i think Stronger CPu is Sloution .

But I Saw Video that Crysis Would Run very fast in all conditons with the Same rig i have right here . But i couldnt Remember the level he was Playing , maybe it was a Mod which made to run faster than regular game !
 
Sorry Dear Rizlla , but i cant risk & oc my CPu , because its already running hot & i keep it Cool with other Coolers & other things . i hardly hold it on 60C in crysis .

But away i am not so experienced in Ocing & i might Burn it & .... Oh
 


It's not that the smaller the resolution the more the cpu works. It's just equally demanding on the CPU wheather it be 720p or 1080p. Additionally this will directly make it easier for the GPU

so lets say it's 80gpu//20 cpu at 1080p and you go down to a 720p resolution, it could strike a 40/60 balance.

horrible analogy, but hopefully it makes sense
 
I tried my Cousin's Monitor ( 1600x1200 ) & I saw No Difference !

Hey I Installed Deus Ex 3 HR Few Minutes ago , & Maxed it out ! it was Running Extremly fast , over 100 Fps , CPU was normal 58 C . but Vga Went to 71 C . my Vga is MSI Twin Frozr 2 & its Cooler than Regular 6870 s ! But In same time It was SO COld in my Room ( VERY COld ) my Case Was very COLD ! i was about to Catch a Cold ! so is it Dangerous ? or its Fine ?
 
Oh thats good , but i expected little Lower Temp because 1. its Twinfrozr 2. my room was VEry very Cool Specialy My Case .

Ok look how fast it Runs ? Why it SHould be that fast , i saw lower Results In bench marks for Deus Ex 3 . & why Cant Crysis run little bit faster ?
 
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