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"42" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> In article <9dpQd.63910$jn.31499@lakeread06>, sanjian@widomaker.com
> says...
>
>>
>> You think -this- is personal? What ivory tower did you grow up in?
>> Welcome
>> to life, Cinderella, try to keep up.
>
>
>
> You haven't actually read Cinderella have you? Do you even know what its
> about?

Many versions of it, including the orignal Grim story. It's an expression.
If you can't handle that, then you may not be well equipped to handle the
world around you. Please consider suicide.

> I have never seen such a masterfully butchered attempt at a metaphor.
>
> Whats next?

Next is where we laugh at you for being an idiot. Oh, wait, we were already
doing that.
 
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"Courageous" <dontwant@spam.com> wrote in message
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>
>>> I, however, /have/ read it, and have read it for both thought and
>>> detail. I'm unconvinced at this point that you have done the very
>>> thing that you accuse me of not doing. Mostly what I'm convinced of
>>
>>Then tell me where I'm wrong.
>
> You have that backwards.

You can't. Just like you can't actually back up your misconceptions with
real fact. You can sit here and scream that I'm wrong, but you can't
actually tell me why. There's a reason. It's because I'm right. But it's
easier for you to sit here and say "I know better than you" than to have to
see that you're wrong.
 
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>>>> I, however, /have/ read it, and have read it for both thought and
>>>> detail. I'm unconvinced at this point that you have done the very
>>>> thing that you accuse me of not doing. Mostly what I'm convinced of
>>>
>>>Then tell me where I'm wrong.
>>
>> You have that backwards.

>You can't. Just like you can't actually back up your misconceptions with
>real fact. You can sit here and scream that I'm wrong, but you can't
>actually tell me why. There's a reason. It's because I'm right.

I doubt at this point that you having any idea what you think you're
right about.

C//
 
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"Courageous" <dontwant@spam.com> wrote in message
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>
>>>>> I, however, /have/ read it, and have read it for both thought and
>>>>> detail. I'm unconvinced at this point that you have done the very
>>>>> thing that you accuse me of not doing. Mostly what I'm convinced of
>>>>
>>>>Then tell me where I'm wrong.
>>>
>>> You have that backwards.
>
>>You can't. Just like you can't actually back up your misconceptions with
>>real fact. You can sit here and scream that I'm wrong, but you can't
>>actually tell me why. There's a reason. It's because I'm right.
>
> I doubt at this point that you having any idea what you think you're
> right about.

Stop trying to save face, you're just looking like even more of a fool.
Sean Kennedy had the courtesy to post links and discuss his point, so we at
least have something to discuss and evaluate. You have nothing but rhetoric
and vague generalities. Unless you're willing to tell me where you think
I'm wrong on this, you have nothing to say.
 
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>Stop trying to save face, you're just looking like even more of a fool.
>Sean Kennedy had the courtesy to post links and discuss his point, so we at
>least have something to discuss and evaluate. You have nothing but rhetoric
>and vague generalities.

....he says, as he posts a message containing nothing but rhetoric and
vague generalities, and then blithely striking <SEND>.

>Unless you're willing to tell me where you think
> I'm wrong on this, you have nothing to say.

.... he says, unwilling to live by his own rules.

I see how you are. Yep.

C//
 
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"Courageous" <dontwant@spam.com> wrote in message
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>
>>Stop trying to save face, you're just looking like even more of a fool.
>>Sean Kennedy had the courtesy to post links and discuss his point, so we
>>at
>>least have something to discuss and evaluate. You have nothing but
>>rhetoric
>>and vague generalities.
>
> ...he says, as he posts a message containing nothing but rhetoric and
> vague generalities, and then blithely striking <SEND>.

You've given me nothing specific to respond to. You just continue to dance.
The only thing you've actually managed to make clear is that you think I'm
wrong and that you don't seem to like me very much. I even pointed out
someone who has given me something to discuss and evaluate. You know, an
example. But, I'll try again. Where is the rhetoric I'e posted? Where are
the vague generalities? All I'm doing is calling on you to explain
yourself. Will you continue to dance? I think that's a foregone
conclusion, you don't know how to do anything else.

>>Unless you're willing to tell me where you think
>> I'm wrong on this, you have nothing to say.
>
> ... he says, unwilling to live by his own rules.

And where have I failed to live up to this? Where has someone asked me to
back up my words, yet I've failed to do so? You're squirming.

> I see how you are. Yep.

It would likely be just as much of a misconception as everything else you've
said.
 
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> All I'm doing is calling on you to explain yourself.

That's a brash lie.

C//
 
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"Courageous" <dontwant@spam.com> wrote in message
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>
>> All I'm doing is calling on you to explain yourself.
>
> That's a brash lie.

And you say that based on?

We could do this forever, you can make accusations and false statements, and
I could ask you to justify them, but eventually it gets boring. Do you have
anything -constructive- to add?
 
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>>> All I'm doing is calling on you to explain yourself.

>> That's a brash lie.

>And you say that based on?

"you... don't have the reading comprehension skills required of a
high-school freshman" is not the statement of a person consistent
with one who is "all I'm doing is calling on you to explain yourself."

Brash lie duly exposed.

Embarrassing, isn't it?

C//
 
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> >I just think of you as spineless and simpering - a pussy in other words.

Heya... its the OP (i was banned for 72 hours for saying PUSSY)...
check previous threads for info & quotes....

....'WoW' im disappointed with the responses ive seen in this NG, i
dont have time to respond to the hundreds of cross-threads its
generated and people reposting this on websites, BUT AGAIN, I state
that this isnt about the definition of p*ssy. This isnt about their
user agreement which I supposedly "violated" (I disagree). This isnt
about me whining. Just the facts.

This is about David doing what he can to make people aware of Goliath
and his methods. Take it or leave it - just dont be a pussy (aka
coward/kissass) and kiss blizzard ass.

***********
When you are banned for 72 hours WITHOUT WARNING for asking your buddy
"Hows it hanging?" or "did you see Meet the Fokkers?" or "hide in that
bush!" or "that guy is a dick!" You will change your tune from
'flaming troll thats bored at work' to WTF!?
************

As for the leet speak 'arguement' and me 'circumventing' their
rules.. OMG thats not the point, and you clearly play on a carebear
server or are new to the game.... it doesnt matter if it was in leet
speak or general speak.... Leet speak is a part of the PVP servers, it
is spoken constantly, particularily at high levels. It is acknowledged
& accepted as part of the game - OR THEY WOULD HAVE REMOVED IT. If I
/yell b*sh is it somehow different then if I /yell |3 |_| $ |-| ......
!?!! Meanwhile there are people CONSTANTLY swearing on /1 general.....
there are NPC's named "Biznatch"... there are people on the official
wow forums with signatures such as:

G*
F**k
Y***rself
(would you like to buy a vowel?)

THE POINT IS WTF do you need Blizzard wasting resources on censoring
YOU more then any other mmorpg, aspecially when their more laggy &
unstable then any current mmorpg! You want to be censored & protected
to the point where its just anal and ridiculous? How the hell can you
"pussies" agree with this? Are you french!?!? (sorry hehe)... Are you
completely spineless? Or are you letting your 10 year old kid play
unsupervised!? Your ignorant if you think this BS will protect your
kid. They will see 10x worse on tv, and 100000x worse internet. Grow
some parenting skills. And most likely your account will be banned
when your kid says something stupid, while not even realizing what
they've done....

The issue here is censorship, not the definition of pussy, not the
user agreement that we were all forced to agree to.

ATTN "Pussies": You dont need this much censorship, wake up. The
profanity filter is enough. TV is far more graphic then WoW.

.....How far should Blizzard go to protect your virgin ears?














Trolls: grow some balls.
 
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"sanjian" <sanjian@widomaker.com> wrote in
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> "Sean Kennedy" <x@y.z> wrote in message
> news:Xns95FE67D5D3ADtherealorangyahoocom@130.133.1.4...
>> "sanjian" <sanjian@widomaker.com> wrote in
>> news:zvqQd.34164$Vg3.2742@lakeread05:
>
>>> For once, someone actually came up with a good point. However, it's
>>> not quite as simple as you make it seem. That river may well supply
>>> vital resources, or affect the river on other peoples' property.
>>> This is one person's actions affecting the rights and property of
>>> others. I have no -right- to enter someone's property, though I may
>>> have been granted the privilege.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If you read through the following case, you'll find that the right
>> of people to use privately owned property for signature gathering
>> among other things stems from a 1st and 14th ammendment ruling:
>>
>> Alabama vs. Marsh (US Supreme Court, 1946)
>>
>> Which the Oregon Supreme Court then used in Lloyd Corporation vs.
>> Whiffen.
>>
>> The problem with the first case in which Fred Meyer lost the ability
>> to ban signature gatherers from the Hawthorne store was that they
>> failed to demonstrate that the Hawthorne store did not meet the
>> requirements to not be considered a public meeting place (contending
>> the burden of proof rested on the signature gatherers) in the second
>> case they demonstrated that the (remodeled) Hawthorne store clearly
>> did not invite people there for more than business transactions.
>> Now, you'll notice that they didn't try this with the Beaverton
>> store, which has a number of shops renting space from them and is
>> much closer to a shopping center than a single store.
>
> Since there is no link, I assume it is similar to the other one you
> posted where they all but admitted that they were no longer following
> the actual constitution, but rather precedent. That's not so much
> stemming from the 1st and 4th, as it is being thrown at the 1st and
> 4th and wondering if anyone will notice that it's not sticking.
>
>
>

You do know that case law is based on the decisions of the appellate
courts?

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"Courageous" <dontwant@spam.com> wrote in message
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>
>>>> All I'm doing is calling on you to explain yourself.
>
>>> That's a brash lie.
>
>>And you say that based on?
>
> "you... don't have the reading comprehension skills required of a
> high-school freshman" is not the statement of a person consistent
> with one who is "all I'm doing is calling on you to explain yourself."

You're just a whiney little bitch, aren't you? Yeah, I insultued you then,
and I'm doing it now. Yes, I'm being harsh. You know what, it's the only
way I've been able to get you to say anything concrete. At least now,
you've finally given an example. And, you know what, the world didn't end!

Now, between when I wrote that and when I said that all I am doing is
calling on you to explain yourself, seven posts had gone by, and all I -was-
doing at that point is calling on you to explain yourself. That doesn't
mean that's all I -had- been doing previously. But you spent three posts in
that branch, alone, twisting and dancing around. So I called you on it.
And this is the best you can respond with? Instead of actually answering to
the accusation, you accuse me of lying (which I've just shown to not be the
case, had I said something to the effect of "all I've been doing is calling
on you to explain yourself, you would have a case). But, hey, as I said
above, at least you can give me a concrete example of how you're wrong,
which is a start.

> Brash lie duly exposed.

Your own?

> Embarrassing, isn't it?

You tell me.
 
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"Sean Kennedy" <x@y.z> wrote in message
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> "sanjian" <sanjian@widomaker.com> wrote in
> news:q9xQd.36595$Vg3.26794@lakeread05:

>> Since there is no link, I assume it is similar to the other one you
>> posted where they all but admitted that they were no longer following
>> the actual constitution, but rather precedent. That's not so much
>> stemming from the 1st and 4th, as it is being thrown at the 1st and
>> 4th and wondering if anyone will notice that it's not sticking.
>>
>>
>>
>
> You do know that case law is based on the decisions of the appellate
> courts?

Hence my insistance that it is "legislation from the bench." It's based not
on what the law says, but on what another judge said the law says. It's
like inbreeding of knowledge. Soon, the actual intent of the people who
were actually and legally elected to make the laws is completely lost (as in
these decisions). -That- is not the job of judges. Instead of shining a
light apon the laws, they're casting a shadow.

Can you honestly say that Art IV, Section 1 can be interpreted the way the
OSC did? If you had read that passage and been asked if it gave the right
to petition on private property, could you have honestly said it did? I
certainly can't. Why would that change when an activist judge on the OSC
decided that's what he wanted it to say?
 
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"Dennis" <spliffeh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> >I just think of you as spineless and simpering - a pussy in other words.
>
> Heya... its the OP (i was banned for 72 hours for saying PUSSY)...
> check previous threads for info & quotes....
>
> ...'WoW' im disappointed with the responses ive seen in this NG, i
> dont have time to respond to the hundreds of cross-threads its
> generated and people reposting this on websites, BUT AGAIN, I state
> that this isnt about the definition of p*ssy. This isnt about their
> user agreement which I supposedly "violated" (I disagree). This isnt
> about me whining. Just the facts.
>
> This is about David doing what he can to make people aware of Goliath
> and his methods. Take it or leave it - just dont be a pussy (aka
> coward/kissass) and kiss blizzard ass.

This is usenet, it doesn't matter what you think the thread is about, just
because you made the first post. Nobody owns a thread. Get over it, and
get over yourself.
 
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In article <nbxQd.36612$Vg3.28151@lakeread05>, sanjian@widomaker.com
says...
>
> "42" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1c7bdd4664e78d3d989a34@shawnews...
> > In article <9dpQd.63910$jn.31499@lakeread06>, sanjian@widomaker.com
> > says...
> >
> >>
> >> You think -this- is personal? What ivory tower did you grow up in?
> >> Welcome
> >> to life, Cinderella, try to keep up.
> >
> >
> >
> > You haven't actually read Cinderella have you? Do you even know what its
> > about?
>
> Many versions of it, including the orignal Grim story. It's an expression.

Yes it is. But it makes no frigging sense.

Cinderella did not grow up in an Ivory Tower. She grew up in squalor,
neglected and used by her step-family.

Why would you accuse someone of growing up in an ivory tower and then
compare them to Cinderella? Hello! Now if you'd gone with Snow White...
maybe it would work... but Cinderella??

> If you can't handle that, then you may not be well equipped to handle the
> world around you. Please consider suicide.

Lol. I'm not the one butchering metaphors here.

> > I have never seen such a masterfully butchered attempt at a metaphor.
> >
> > Whats next?
>
> Next is where we laugh at you for being an idiot. Oh, wait, we were already
> doing that.

We? I just see you. And like your metaphor its about as misplaced; the
pathetic bray of an ass really.
 
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"42" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> In article <nbxQd.36612$Vg3.28151@lakeread05>, sanjian@widomaker.com
> says...

>> > You haven't actually read Cinderella have you? Do you even know what
>> > its
>> > about?
>>
>> Many versions of it, including the orignal Grim story. It's an
>> expression.
>
> Yes it is. But it makes no frigging sense.

Calling someone Cinderella is to accuse them of living in a fantasy land
(ie, the one she was in during the dance, before everything reverted). If
you didn't understand that, you could have just asked.

> Cinderella did not grow up in an Ivory Tower. She grew up in squalor,
> neglected and used by her step-family.
>
> Why would you accuse someone of growing up in an ivory tower and then
> compare them to Cinderella? Hello! Now if you'd gone with Snow White...
> maybe it would work... but Cinderella??

Have you ever read Snow White? Maybe Rapunzel would be a better choice? If
you're going to lecture me on my knoweldge of fairy tales, perhaps you
should read them yourself?

>> If you can't handle that, then you may not be well equipped to handle the
>> world around you. Please consider suicide.
>
> Lol. I'm not the one butchering metaphors here.

You just acknowledged that calling him Cinderella was an expression, and now
you go back to the butchering metaphors thing. You really are a piece of
work.

>> > I have never seen such a masterfully butchered attempt at a metaphor.
>> >
>> > Whats next?
>>
>> Next is where we laugh at you for being an idiot. Oh, wait, we were
>> already
>> doing that.
>
> We? I just see you. And like your metaphor its about as misplaced; the
> pathetic bray of an ass really.

And where is it misplaced? I'm not the one going around lecturing people
about their presumed misuse of fairy tale lore while messing it up myself
(that really was a classic, thank you for giving me the chance to laugh
about it). I'm not the one who acknowledges that something is an
expression, but doesn't understand it, and so launches into an attack
instead of asking the person to explain. And the funny part is, it wasn't
you I was insulting in the beginning. You had to go out and prove your
stupidity on your own.
 
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>>>>> All I'm doing is calling on you to explain yourself.

>>>> That's a brash lie.

>>>And you say that based on?

>> "you... don't have the reading comprehension skills required of a
>> high-school freshman" is not the statement of a person consistent
>> with one who is "all I'm doing is calling on you to explain yourself."
>
>Yeah, I insultued you then, and I'm doing it now.

You've been doing it all along.

Your statement was a lie, is a lie, continues to be nothing but a lie.

Given your long two paragraph diatribe, we can see who's "dancing."

Do go on.

C//
 
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Dennis wrote:

> The issue here is censorship, not the definition of pussy, not the
> user agreement that we were all forced to agree to.

Look at it this way. They don't want you using that word. They have
filters to prevent the obvious uses, but that doesn't mean bypassing the
filter is okay.

If you park in a metered space that's posted "1 hour parking", but the
meter is broken, you can still get a ticket for parking longer than 1
hour. All day long, people will get away with parking for longer than
an hour, and will get no ticket. That doesn't mean you didn't break the
law.

In short: There's a rule. You broke it. You got busted. It doesn't
matter if the rule is stupid. It doesn't matter if other people break
the rule and don't get caught. You broke the rule. You paid the price.

The thing to do now is man up, get over it. "Quit or quit not. There
is no whine."
 
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On 15 Feb 2005 21:59:05 -0800, spliffeh@hotmail.com (Dennis) scribed into
the ether:

>> >I just think of you as spineless and simpering - a pussy in other words.
>
>Heya... its the OP (i was banned for 72 hours for saying PUSSY)...
>check previous threads for info & quotes....
>
>...'WoW' im disappointed with the responses ive seen in this NG, i
>dont have time to respond to the hundreds of cross-threads its
>generated and people reposting this on websites, BUT AGAIN, I state
>that this isnt about the definition of p*ssy. This isnt about their
>user agreement which I supposedly "violated" (I disagree). This isnt
>about me whining. Just the facts.

You're still a moron who got what he deserved and whined about it.
 
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Andrew Gray <esnpeawms@bitusmeus.com> wrote:
] Dennis wrote:
]
] > The issue here is censorship, not the definition of pussy, not the
] > user agreement that we were all forced to agree to.
]
] Look at it this way. They don't want you using that word. They have
] filters to prevent the obvious uses, but that doesn't mean bypassing the
] filter is okay.

The post he just made pointed out others aren't being banned for
doing exactly the same thing he did.

JimP.
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> The post he just made pointed out others
> aren't being banned for doing exactly the
> same thing he did.

Doesn't matter. Just because you see other people getting away with
breaking the rules doesn't mean it's all right for you to break them, and
you shouldn't be surprised for getting punished for it.
 
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"Dennis" done....
>
> The issue here is censorship,

You truly have no concept of what censorship is, do you?

I think of you as a young guy, probably a teenager, who right now thinks
your opinions mean more than anyone else's. You have some strange idea that
you have the right to say whatever you want to whomever you want, regardless
of the circumstances. You have to understand that nature of reality, which
is simply this: you're wrong.

Deal with that, and you'll be a much happier person.

This part of the maturity process, and I'm certain in ten or fifteen years
you'll begin to understand. In the meantime, your continued illogical
rantings just make you look foolish and immature.

This isn't David vs. Goliath, this is Chicken Little. And guess what? The
sky isn't actually falling.


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"Richard Lawson" <nouma@msn.com> wrote:
] > The post he just made pointed out others
] > aren't being banned for doing exactly the
] > same thing he did.
]
] Doesn't matter. Just because you see other people getting away with
] breaking the rules doesn't mean it's all right for you to break them, and
] you shouldn't be surprised for getting punished for it.

Then they should be punished as well.

JimP.
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D.J. <jolly73@boingcableone.net> wrote:

>Then they should be punished as well.

Concept : "Finite resources".

Think it over. You're capable of typing, so you should certainly be
able to work that concept to its conclusion.

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spliffeh@hotmail.com (Dennis) wrote:

>'WoW' im disappointed with the responses ive seen in this NG

Why, because most of us recognize that when you break the rules,
you're responsible for the consequences?


>BUT AGAIN, I state
>that this isnt about the definition of p*ssy. This isnt about their
>user agreement which I supposedly "violated" (I disagree). This isnt
>about me whining.

And AGAIN (since you're a knuckle-dragging half-wit), you don't get to
dictate what a thread is about. Threads creep. Deal with it.


>This is about David doing what he can to make people aware of Goliath
>and his methods. Take it or leave it - just dont be a pussy (aka
>coward/kissass) and kiss blizzard ass.

No one here is kissing Blizzard's ass. Most of us are simply taking
pleasure in the fact that Blizzard *kicked* yours.


>Grow some parenting skills.

Would that I could turn back time and wave this message in front of
your parents, since clearly they did a substandard job.


--
Exodus 22:18 can kiss my pagan ass
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